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Timana Tahu accused of racially abusing youth

mrpwnd

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For what it's worth, i'd find it harder to drop Grothe, Reddy and Burt than I would Tahu, even if he does have more raw talent than all 3 of them.
IMO, letting Tahu go will let us experiment with some of our depth from NYC and Wenty.
 

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Confront my son: father challenges Tahu to deny making slur


GLENN JACKSON
09 Oct, 2010 03:00 AM
HAVING made his complaints against Timana Tahu official, the father of a teenager who claimed to have been racially abused by the Parramatta centre has dared his antagonist to sit in a conciliation meeting and deny once more that he used a racist slur against his son.
Chris Binge, the coach of the Northern United rugby league team, whose members have accused the Eels star of a race slur against 16-year-old Caleb Binge, has made his complaints against Tahu official through the ARL Indigenous Council, which has launched an investigation into the events last weekend at the Koori Knockout in Woy Woy.
In yesterday's Herald, Tahu denied the allegations - that he called Caleb, who is on contract with Brisbane, a ''black c---'', which led Binge to say yesterday it was ''time to take the gloves off and settle this through the right channels''.
''There's one fact, there's a 16-year-old kid who doesn't lie,'' Binge said. ''That's a hard one to beat, Timana. When he's got a 16-year-old kid sitting in front of him, I wonder whether he'll be able to say, 'Honestly, I didn't say it'. I believe in my son, I believe in the other players who heard it, and I believe in the stand they've taken.''
Tahu, who walked out on a NSW Origin camp this year after assistant coach Andrew Johns used the same derogatory term when discussing Queensland star Greg Inglis, had stirred the pot further by claiming that Binge had been seeking ''five minutes of fame'' through the accusations. But Binge responded: ''I live, eat and breathe in my community. My credibility is intact because of what I stand for. Others' credibility can't remain intact.
''We're bound by fact. We're bound by the truth, unlike others.''
Binge was also thrown accusations of his own yesterday - from Glen Boyd, a delegate for the Yowies side Tahu represented, who said Binge was racially abusing the Eels player from the sidelines. ''If that's the level people are going to stoop to, to try and prove their innocence, then we've all got a bit to worry about,'' Binge said.
Despite the level of vitriol from both sides, Binge said there was ''a way through this''. ''The solution is simple, put up your hands and admit you did it. Say you're sorry and move on. But don't apologise to me. I don't want an apology. It's nothing to do with Chris Binge. I'm just a dad supporting my son.''
Binge also said the claims of Daine Laurie, who admitted he had ''called about 15 people black c---s'' while playing for United against the Yowies, were sad. ''If we, as Aboriginal people, have gotten to a point where we're calling each other those sorts of names, we're in a lot of trouble,'' he said.
Tahu's mother is Aboriginal. His late father was Maori.
Tahu has been picked for New Zealand Maori, who will play a Four Nations warm-up match against England next weekend. He had approached his Eels teammate Justin Horo, whose father Mark is an assistant coach with the team, about playing in the match in honour of his late father.
http://theland.farmonline.com.au/ne...-to-deny-making-slur/1964317.aspx?storypage=2
 

Tank30

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I think it`s more like 50 years or so of discrimination that is pertinent - say the person and their parents` personal experience of discrimination by the system (which is a white system).
And if I called you a dumb white merkin, it means very little. If two aboriginal people call each other dumb black merkins, it means very little. But if a white man calls an aboriginal a dumb black merkin, it means a hell of a lot. These people and their parents and grandparents, etc, etc, etc, have been put down, marginalised, discriminated against, had their children stolen from them, were part of the flora and fauna act until the sixties (that is, they were only officially recognised as human beings in the 1960`s). All this done to them by a WHITE society, government, administrations, etc, etc. We white people come from a background of power going back many generations. Aboriginal people don`t.

Speak for yourself mate. Someone, whether they be white or black or green, calls me a white merkin and I would be complaining long and loud that they were racist. It makes absolutely no difference what the colour of the offenders skin is, racism is racism.
 

Tank30

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And for the record, I think that the kid is probably telling the truth. Tahu is more trouble than he is worth and based on last season, he isn't worth much.
 

sarahk

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And for the record, I think that the kid is probably telling the truth. Tahu is more trouble than he is worth and based on last season, he isn't worth much.

Put aside his performance in 2010 ( which in my opinion was no worse than the rest of the team), what has Tahu done that makes him 'more trouble than he is worth'?
 

DeanPay98

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And for the record, I think that the kid is probably telling the truth. Tahu is more trouble than he is worth and based on last season, he isn't worth much.

Thus far one of the "witnesses" has turned out to have been on the bench not the field. Another was on the sidelines.

That sounds dodgy as far as I'm concerned given what they were originally saying.

Add to that the fact that several other players have supported Tahu.

The accusers have to prove Tahu's guilt.

Tahu doesn't have to prove his innocence.

For the record I believe Tahu.
 

Parra Guru

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Thus far one of the "witnesses" has turned out to have been on the bench not the field. Another was on the sidelines.

That sounds dodgy as far as I'm concerned given what they were originally saying.

Add to that the fact that several other players have supported Tahu.

The accusers have to prove Tahu's guilt.

Tahu doesn't have to prove his innocence.

For the record I believe Tahu.

Yeah I'm leaning that way myself now.

Considering no one else heard it, and the 4 that did seem closely linked, it does sound like a big fat lie.
 

bartman

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So does this bit...

Tahu's mother is Aboriginal. His late father was Maori.
Tahu has been picked for New Zealand Maori, who will play a Four Nations warm-up match against England next weekend. He had approached his Eels teammate Justin Horo, whose father Mark is an assistant coach with the team, about playing in the match in honour of his late father.
...mean that Tahu's dad passed away some time this year? If so, I reckon we can cut the guy some slack.

He had played every game for us until that origin camp, 15 or so straight games was more than I thought he'd get through last season, given his previous injuries. I don't know how much he is on (probably not much for 2010, as I thought there were reports his contract was back-ended - even though apparently he is off contract?) but he goes alright enough and should be better next season.

Given we have lost J Wright, we have no-one else (other than unproven kids) to pick in the centres anyway...
 

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The Parramatta centre was born in Melbourne to an Aboriginal mother. His Kiwi father, Tom, died in 2003. ''It's something I want to do before I retire, honour my father by playing in some New Zealand jumper,'' Tahu said. ''The Kiwis at the moment is out of the question but the next best thing is playing for the Maori.
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''If I did get to play in that it would be a massive honour, plus I would get to acknowledge my Maori heritage. It's hard because I was [brought] up in Australia, was born and bred here. My whole dream was playing for NSW and Australia. So for me, if I could do something for my father and family, my Maori heritage … if not this year I'll take up the chance before I retire.''
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...i-colours-for-late-father-20100925-15rid.html
 

Tank30

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Put aside his performance in 2010 ( which in my opinion was no worse than the rest of the team), what has Tahu done that makes him 'more trouble than he is worth'?

Brain snaps and drawing repeated media attention to the club. If he was back to his pre rugby form, I don't have an issue but when a player isn't performing and is drawing the kind of attention he does and having brain snaps causing suspension, he is more trouble than he is worth.

To say he was no worse than the rest of the team is a joke, even if it was true does that mean that he is excused for not living up to his potential because others were bad too??? and to even think that he was as good as Horo, Hayne, Mannah, etc is way off base.

To put it in perspective, how many times has Hindy featured in the media in any sort of negative way?? Cayless??? Mannah??? Mortimer?? Reddy??? None. These are the players I want at my club, blokes who have a go week in and week out and keep out of the media. Even Hayne after his Kings Cross incident has kept his nose clean...
 

mrpwnd

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Put aside his performance in 2010 ( which in my opinion was no worse than the rest of the team), what has Tahu done that makes him 'more trouble than he is worth'?
Problem is, most other clubs aren't so quick to back a player after getting into alot of off-field and on-field crap like Tahu has.
IMO, we're being way too lenient on Tahu and I have fears that he is biting the hand that's generously feeding him.
We welcomed him back with open arms and much fanfare/excitement after ditching the code for union(despite personal claims he wouldn't) and coming back because he was bored(despite personal claims he wouldn't).
He's been very poor in form, always ready for the odd brain explosion, stupid comments in the media about the club, himself and coach, sitting out a few matches because he 'didn't want to play/needed a mental break', getting suspended for a stupid thing and getting injured right after coming back.
If not for his name and reputation he would have been in the outer for 1st grade already. IMO, he's been hiding behind that reputation of his to play poorly without risk of being dropped or let go.
Then there's also something about him apparently being 'mates' with Ozzie, although I won't believe that as much.

My opinions and analysis of Tahu are definately biased and yeah, I do hate the bastard, but still...He's been an absolute tool this year. At least I could praise Morts for shutting up and trying to improve even if he was also sh*t.
 

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