Time to Flick the Storm

[eelandia]

What future do you see for the game if we give up on expanding the game into Vic, SA and WA, and actually shrink our borders? We'd end up like Rugby League in the North of England - strong in a small area, but with little relevance in the rest of the nation.

RL already is irrelevant to the majority of Australians :lol:

Melbourne are an investment. They provide funding for the NRL in terms of sponsorship that would otherwise be unavailable. They offer a path into SA and WA, if managed effectively.

After the Western Reds and Adeliade Rams debacles, RL will never be successful in re-entering the WA and SA markets. People in these states can't stand RL, hence the demise of previous franchises

Why is it BeAussie, that you speak such utter, utter, bullsh&t. You are a dead-set goose who spends his days trawling through a League site without anything constructive to say. You have probably never picked up a ball of any note, yet you see yourself as an expert on all matters.
Here you go - CATCH THIS....knew you'd drop it you kook.

 

[xxxx!]

"rugby league hadn't really taken off here in Victoria until the introduction of the Melbourne Storm to a "national" competition. "

That's exactly my point RL HASN'T taken off since the introduction of the Storm .From what I've read the local comp has gone backwads if anything .I'm not saying the Storm is a failure as some do ,they do a serviceable job ,but it is at a cost .Most people would say it's an investment ,but an investment must show a return sometime .really it's just a question of the timeframe .

 

[ibeme]

"rugby league hadn't really taken off here in Victoria until the introduction of the Melbourne Storm to a "national" competition. "

That's exactly my point RL HASN'T taken off since the introduction of the Storm .From what I've read the local comp has gone backwads if anything .I'm not saying the Storm is a failure as some do ,they do a serviceable job ,but it is at a cost .Most people would say it's an investment ,but an investment must show a return sometime .really it's just a question of the timeframe .

From my understanding, it took sustained success on the field to get the Swans and Lions out of the shadows in Sydney and QLD, and this was due to investment from the AFL. They gave salary cap concessions, and really dug in rather than let them tread water on their own. Once they started to look strong on the field, the AFL pumped heaps into hihg quality promotion.

Perhaps if Melbourne were given the same opportunities to become a sustained success, then they'd occupy more head-lines in Victoria, gaining more exposure. It would then be up to the NRL/Storm to really capitalise on this with high-quality promotion.

 

[xxxx!]

The salary cap concessions are only recent and the Swans didn't use them .

 

[Surandy]

I am one Storm member that *doesn't* want the team to get salary cap concessions. The assistance that I want the Storm to get is more in the development of juniors (which was announced this week) and more help with dealing with government and media to help promote this great game in Victoria.

If Storm got salary cap concessions and did well then everyone would be claiming it's coz we got special treatment. If Storm got salary cap concessions and didn't do well then everyone would be saying it's a waste of money and we shouldn't be in the competition. And even if Storm did get salary cap concessions, where would we get the money to make use of the concessions. It's not like the Storm is awash with cash at the moment.

Storm won the 1999 without any salary cap concession. And as for promotion of the game the Storm players need to get out there and make household names of themselves. The main players that have made a name for themselves in Melbourne were Marcus Bai and Kirk Reynoldson (growing a beard sure does make a difference it seems).

Look at the effect Kirk Reynoldson is having in his home town. Melbourne needs promotion like that to get more people to really take notice that there is another game in town, and this game is great!!!

 

[El Diablo]

Look at the effect Kirk Reynoldson is having in his home town.

Since when did Reynoldson come from Melbourne?

 

[Surandy]

Since never, sorry maybe I should've posted the link to the news article.

http://www.melbournestorm.com.au/news.php?id=349

 

[El Diablo]

Since never, sorry maybe I should've posted the link to the news article.

http://www.melbournestorm.com.au/news.php?id=349

Cheers. I'm understanding you now.

 

[Stormwarning[c]]

On the subject of Development.

The Storm worked hard in the first two years by getting the players visiting schools and doing clinics. Due to Aussie Rules being so strong doen here most Uni's when teachering those becoming PE teachers don't touch on any other sort of football code apart from Aussie Rules.

Therefore schools (unless the PE teacher was a League follower) really wouldn't book the club to come out to the schools.

In 2000 the NRL chipped in and we got ONE junior development officer to cover the whole state of Victoria.

This stayed the same until a couple of weekes ago when the NRL announced that Victoria will be getting another 3 officers from this year. \\/ \\/

Around early 99 Storm and Kelloggs started a breakfast program for disadvantage schools.

A number of schools have been 'adopted' by Storm and once a month all year every student has breakfast provided. This gives the game and the club an opportunity to give something to those in the community. It also helps cement the club with young followers, which in turn flows through the family as those less off know that a professional sports club cares. (A great example of this is a Primary School down in Hastings).

The breakfast program is not promoted to the general public down here which I believe is a good thing. This gives our code an opportunity to get into the schools and have an affect and build our junior supporter base and also those wanting to become and play the game.

 

[Southern Rooster]

]One thing that hasn't been touched on is the fact the the jersey sponsor for Storm pay over $1.2 Million a year and they are only one of 5 outfit sponsors.

Why would you get rid of a club that can do that?

I read somewhere that Storm had the highest valued strip in the comp. Can anyone else confirm that?

They did but the Roosters do as of this season. Although the work the Tigers have done recently could put there strip right up there to.

 

[Southern Rooster]

What future do you see for the game if we give up on expanding the game into Vic, SA and WA, and actually shrink our borders? We'd end up like Rugby League in the North of England - strong in a small area, but with little relevance in the rest of the nation.

I am not saying that i want the Storm or Warriors to be punted, but would shrinking our boundaries be that bad?

AFL is not played in any other country in the world, yet look how successful it is! if you only have minimal resources, and try to spread them across too broad an area, you will effect the quality of your final product.

We'd lose sponsors by shrinking our borders. The AFL would encroach further into our fringe areas, and we'd be under more pressure to pay players. We have to aim for growth, or we will be going backwards, and running out of money fast.

As for spreading too fast, that's a matter of management. We have to work our way into these areas and persist, as AFL has done in Sydney and Brisbane.

Good points. But the reason AFL is spreading is because they established their base first. Rugby league needs increased development with NSW and QLD where as AFL just needs maintaining in the southern states.

And the AFL has programs in place, run by the AFL in NSW schools, where the rugby league does not. As a result , more kids are starting to play the game on weekends, and unless the NRL starts running bigger and better programs in junior schools, there won't be any kids playing our sport and it will get over run. no kids playing = poorer standard of NRL in future, and no product to sell interstate.

Rugby League is unfortunatley behind the AFL in terms of Structural development, and if they keep skipping steps or cutting corners, they won't catch up, they will fall further behind.

A good post PB and the number one reason why the NRL is behind the AFL. There management has been sucessful for years and been innovative. The NRL has been a follower rather than a leader.

 

[Stormwarning[c]]

They did but the Roosters do as of this season. Although the work the Tigers have done recently could put there strip right up there to.

I read the article on West strip and they aren't making a great deal a year when you break it down.

Storm's strip is valued at around $3.5million a year, this was reported in the media as the highest in the country.

 

[Once Dead]

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They did but the Roosters do as of this season. Although the work the Tigers have done recently could put there strip right up there to.

I read the article on West strip and they aren't making a great deal a year when you break it down.

Storm's strip is valued at around $3.5million a year, this was reported in the media as the highest in the country.

1 state - 1 city - 1 team, that's not the greatest though.....in the big scheme of things - its a start sure, but........

 

[Stormwarning[c]]

1 state - 1 city - 1 team, that's not the greatest though.....in the big scheme of things - its a start sure, but........

Lets see, 1 team in a city dominated by another sport, that earns more than at least 8 of the teams based in Melbourne for that other sport.

What does that say?

In fact, you could put together 4 AFL based teams and their total sponsorship for their strips wouldn't reach the same value of Storms.

And they bring to the game?

Where to start

 

[Once Dead]

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1 state - 1 city - 1 team, that's not the greatest though.....in the big scheme of things - its a start sure, but........

Lets see, 1 team in a city dominated by another sport, that earns more than at least 8 of the teams based in Melbourne for that other sport.

What does that say?

In fact, you could put together 4 AFL based teams and their total sponsorship for their strips wouldn't reach the same value of Storms.

And they bring to the game?

Where to start

Still, 1 team, 1 state.....other teams in other states have worse conditions including multiple codes vying for corporate dollars and rival teams etc

 

[Briza]

** YAWN **

More Inane ramblings from the Idiot King :?:

BEARS ARE DEAD - GET OVER IT!

 

[Stormwarning[c]]

Still, 1 team, 1 state.....other teams in other states have worse conditions including multiple codes vying for corporate dollars and rival teams etc

List the teams the have worse conditions in a Premier National Competition?

The fact that Storm can bring new money to OUR code is a good thing.

Look at the new money coming into our code from Crazy Johns a Melbourne based company.

 

[greenos]

If rugby league wants to regain any credibility, it's time the Storm was wound up. there is zero interest down south.

Meanwhile, in the heartland of rugby league, we have a Central Coast Bears team fully funded by Singleton looking for an NRL licence but being denied.

Melbourne represents super league and Ribot - the destroyers of what used to be a great Australian sport.

For those (Manly supporters) who say the CC had their chance with the Neagles - RUBBISH. the CC fans knew that Manly shafted the Bears and voted with their feet - a great gesture. The Gold Coast franchise has had a million chances and is run by ARL cronies - the same types that sold out to News Ltd in the Super League crisis. They do not have the backing, funding or infrastructure to run a long term club.

Time for rugby league to look to the future - Central Coast Bears in. Storm out. Manly to the Gold Coast before they go belly up.

Stupid Storm!

 

[sharkadelic]

Yeah, there is no interest in them and they cant play.:roll:

Boo Storm.:lol:

Idiots.

 

[Phillips]

kick them out

bring back the bears and crushers