Time to take the pacific!!

Discussion in 'International' started by roughyedspud, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. roughyedspud

    roughyedspud Coach

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    Messages:
    12,167
    Likes Received:
    1,048
    Just read that the union mob are launching this world league but the pacific nations are "locked out" for at least a decade...

    Now is the time for league to take these nations!! They are being abandoned by union!
     
  2. Disinterested third party

    Disinterested third party Bench

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2017
    Messages:
    3,191
    Likes Received:
    1,699
    The Pacific already belongs to RL. The population as a whole is largely in two countries - PNG and Australia.
     
  3. Walter sobchak

    Walter sobchak First Grade

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2018
    Messages:
    5,845
    Likes Received:
    1,334
    Best case scenario would be for Australia, NZ and England to play regular test matches in Samoa, Fiji, png and Tonga.

    2nd best scenario would be to take NRL pre-season trial matches to said countries.
     
    hutch and deluded pom? like this.
  4. Walter sobchak

    Walter sobchak First Grade

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2018
    Messages:
    5,845
    Likes Received:
    1,334
    Fiji is the jewel in the crown. The amount of rugby talent in both codes that comes out of there is crazy.
     
    hutch likes this.
  5. Disinterested third party

    Disinterested third party Bench

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2017
    Messages:
    3,191
    Likes Received:
    1,699
    We’ll keep the pop centres with 30 million and union can have Fiji. :joy:
     
  6. adamkungl

    adamkungl Immortal

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2005
    Messages:
    42,662
    Likes Received:
    6,151
    There wasn't a peep from NRL HQ when the Western Force went bust, why would this be any different.
     
    hutch, paulmac, Pommy and 1 other person like this.
  7. roughyedspud

    roughyedspud Coach

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    Messages:
    12,167
    Likes Received:
    1,048
    The NRL would rather bully and rape the pacific than do any good..
     
  8. Whatwhere

    Whatwhere Juniors

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Messages:
    365
    Likes Received:
    41
    And 24 hours after its leaking amid extreme public and player outcry it has been for all intensive purposes canned.
     
  9. yakstorm

    yakstorm Bench

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2003
    Messages:
    3,697
    Likes Received:
    617
    A bit harsh to say the NRL is doing nothing for the Pacific, as they have underwritten the Pacific Test now every year since 2013, and have announced / set to announce:
    • New Zealand v Tonga - Mid-Year
    • Samoa v PNG - Mid-Year + Oceania Cup
    • Fiji v Cook Islands - Mid-Year
    • Samoa v Fiji - Oceania Cup
    • Australia v Tonga - Oceania Cup
    • PNG v Fiji - Oceania Cup
    Throw in the GB Lions playing both Tonga and PNG plus the potential Cook Islands v South Africa RLWC Qualifier which is still being discussed, it is actually a pretty big year for the Pacific teams.

    If everything goes ahead the PNG, Tonga, Samoa and Fiji will play 3x games, whilst Cook Islands will play at least 2x with a 3rd in the mix.
     
  10. adamkungl

    adamkungl Immortal

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2005
    Messages:
    42,662
    Likes Received:
    6,151
    Do we have any word on either the Cup or the Cooks v SA game?
     
  11. roughyedspud

    roughyedspud Coach

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    Messages:
    12,167
    Likes Received:
    1,048
    I see the Fijian,Samoan & Tongan RU are gonna hold a vote on boycotting the union world cup..

    This is what I mean...GO AND GET THEM..Australian RL has it in its power to absolutely destroy union in the pacific AND Australia if it wanted too..

    Yeah the mid season pacific tests is a start but we all know it's not promoted anywhere near what it should be! This up coming pacific series should be a turning point so I'll have them abut of slack to afterwards ..

    As Adam said...the western force and it's fans where primed to be taken over and we (RL) ignored it...

    We (RL) have dragged our feet over the NSWcup Fiji team....we need to get them in ASAP....Likewise Samoan and Tongan teams..we needn't demonstrate to the pacific nations there a development pathway to the top via Rugby League that Union is unwilling to supply them with...
     
    titoelcolombiano, DlEHARD and hutch like this.
  12. Walter sobchak

    Walter sobchak First Grade

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2018
    Messages:
    5,845
    Likes Received:
    1,334
    NRL clubs should target players from the Fijian national RU side, 7’s side and u20’s side. Also schoolboys side if they have such a team.

    Add to this the Fijian NSW cup franchise and NRL trial matches played in Fiji along side the big 3 RL test playing nations of Australia, NZ and England playing tests against Fiji in Suva and I’m absolutely certain Fiji could be added to the RL column like PNG.
     
    hutch likes this.
  13. Hello, I'm The Doctor

    Hello, I'm The Doctor First Grade

    Joined:
    May 14, 2013
    Messages:
    8,670
    Likes Received:
    2,097
    I think the big kicker would be the ARLC approaching the national Union bodies in these countries to fully jump ship to RL...

    I don’t understand why we dont do this anymore. The entirety of RLs early success was because we didnt just take players, we took whole clubs and even whole competitions of RU
     
  14. ed612313

    ed612313 Juniors

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2008
    Messages:
    295
    Likes Received:
    55
    Rugby League already has Samoa and Tonga.... Fiji is all thats left that is majority Union and even thats not so clear cut....
     
  15. hutch

    hutch First Grade

    Joined:
    May 23, 2003
    Messages:
    6,797
    Likes Received:
    622
    We don’t have Samoa and Tonga at all, we have barely done a thing over there to promote the sport. There has never ever been a rugby league junior from those countries play nrl. Tim Sheens apparently brought over a local in the 80’s but nothing since. The amount of Fijian rugby league juniors can be counted on one hand also. We haven’t done anywhere near enough in the pacific.
     
    Walter sobchak likes this.
  16. jim_57

    jim_57 Bench

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2008
    Messages:
    2,864
    Likes Received:
    890
    Even PNG has barely had the surface scratched and they're sitting there waiting on a silver platter. I know things have improved somewhat recently but really scouting for talent in PNG and the Pacific could provide a new major player source to rival NSW, QLD and NZ.
     
    Walter sobchak likes this.
  17. Walter sobchak

    Walter sobchak First Grade

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2018
    Messages:
    5,845
    Likes Received:
    1,334
    Because of the small populations of both Tonga and Samoa there is a limited amount of scope for development of RL in these countries but Fiji and especially PNG has huge potential not only for developing NRL/super league standard players but elevating the kumuls and Bati to tier1 test nations.
     
  18. Walter sobchak

    Walter sobchak First Grade

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2018
    Messages:
    5,845
    Likes Received:
    1,334
    Couldn’t agree more mate and I’ve been banging on about this and will continue to do so until the real potential of RL in PNG has been realized.

    2nd PNG based Queensland cup franchise in Lae alongside the Port Moresby based hunters complete with u18&u20 sides.
     
  19. jim_57

    jim_57 Bench

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2008
    Messages:
    2,864
    Likes Received:
    890
    Regarding Juniors for a start I wouldn't mind seeing PNG push the initiative a bit and put together a team of under 18s & 20s and tour Australia playing NRL junior teams and Australian Schoolboys & Under 20s. Get themselves in front of talent scouts while they're young.

    Copy that for Fiji which I think they have done recently, from memory a game against Canberra juniors resulted in Canberra trialing/signing a few of the young Fijians.
     
    hutch and Walter sobchak like this.
  20. adamkungl

    adamkungl Immortal

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2005
    Messages:
    42,662
    Likes Received:
    6,151
    People who think RL "owns" Tonga and Samoa are delusional.
    We have test teams made of 95% Aus and NZ born players who never actually play in Tonga or Samoa, and a very small handful of Tongan or Samoan born players even at club level.
    There is no pathway from Tonga or Samoa to professional Rugby League.

    NFI
     
    titoelcolombiano likes this.

Share This Page