Tinkler makes his final offer

[Serc]

The anti-Knights pro-Tinkler media campaign seems to be working perfectly...when the letter from Tew was linked to the Knights facebook page this arvo there was a barrage of quite hateful comments (including one from one of the posters on this very forum) directed towards the board. They deleted them all, then later on they might have got another barrage of comments so removed the article completely as it is certainly not linked on their page any more...

If The Herald or the Tele told the 'fans' to storm Knights HQ tomorrow and throw the board out and stick Tinkler in the door instead they would just about rally the masses I reckon! The power that the media has to brainwash people is unbelieveable!

 

[Alex28]

Errr Andrew Johns won us those two premierships...without him we would be dusting the empty trophy cabinets.

Bullsh*t. That is just ignorant.

It's pretty disappointing that so called "fans" of the club are prepared to dismiss the proud history, the fighting nature, the community culture that this proud club has because it doesn't suit their argument to privatise the club. Those two premierships are bigger than just one man.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

The anti-Knights pro-Tinkler media campaign seems to be working perfectly...when the letter from Tew was linked to the Knights facebook page this arvo there was a barrage of quite hateful comments (including one from one of the posters on this very forum) directed towards the board. They deleted them all, then later on they might have got another barrage of comments so removed the article completely as it is certainly not linked on their page any more...

If The Herald or the Tele told the 'fans' to storm Knights HQ tomorrow and throw the board out and stick Tinkler in the door instead they would just about rally the masses I reckon! The power that the media has to brainwash people is unbelieveable!

On a side note anyone find it ironic they wont let patto have a facebook page and they have one themselves?

To me its kinda gay because its nice to have that insight into the players but might just be me!

 

[Rusty]

Bullsh*t. That is just ignorant.

It's pretty disappointing that so called "fans" of the club are prepared to dismiss the proud history, the fighting nature, the community culture that this proud club has because it doesn't suit their argument to privatise the club. Those two premierships are bigger than just one man.

Oh please. Are you kidding me?! We would never have won those premierships without him...check the stats. You know that our wins without him were scarce...

 

[Alex28]

Many would argue we wouldn't have won 2001 without Kennedy...

As I said, you are just being ignorant of the clubs past.

 

[Rusty]

Many would argue we wouldn't have won 2001 without Kennedy...

As I said, you are just being ignorant of the clubs past.

You're dellusional. :lol:

We hardly won any games without Joey let alone winning premierships lol

I'm sure BK would have won us the premiership with Sean Rudder at five eighth.

 

[Serc]

To be fair...Rudder was probably in the form of his life in 2001, compared to later seasons (while still playing outside Johns).

Tell you what...we could do with BK right now in our forward pack...wish he was about 5-10 years younger! Was definitely a major factor in our form during that period.

 

[Rusty]

To be fair...Rudder was probably in the form of his life in 2001, compared to later seasons (while still playing outside Johns).

Tell you what...we could do with BK right now in our forward pack...wish he was about 5-10 years younger! Was definitely a major factor in our form during that period.

Agreed Serc! We had great combinations across the park. Those were the days....

 

[Serc]

Sure did...the Johns problem was a 'problem' back then, but really wasn't major until say 04-06, by which time we lost most of the players who are listed below.

With guys like Robbie O, Gidley, BK, Simpson, Tahu, Mad Dog there was certainly more than enough quality throughout the team!

 

[perverse]

our 2000 or 2001 squads would be competitive against any of the best sides of this decade. it was an amazing team.

the Wok deserves his share of thanks, imo. while we're throwing pats on the back around regarding our past successes, he deserves one as much, or moreso than most.

 

[Alex28]

Rusty - name a club that has won a premiership that doesn't have a dominant player on their books?

You are simply writing off our glory era in an argument to privatise the club. Doesn't that hurt your soul just a little bit? Isn't that ruining everything you enjoyed about that time?

And tell me... If this was 10 years ago and this came along and we were having success on the field would you be still wanting to sell? For you is this about the financial future of the club or is it about buying success on the field?

And if you want to buy success on the field why aren't you supporting the Roosters or the Storm?

I think we all want financial security for the club but if you think that will automatically mean the glory days are here again you are dreaming. The hard work and development still needs to be done.

 

[perverse]

i think we're only a good recruitment decision or two away from some decent on-field success... as remarkable as that sounds. i don't know about a return to the glory days... but a bit more grit in the front row and i reckon we're sweet as on the field.

we certainly want financial security for the club, i don't think there's anyone that doesn't want that - aside from those that would conspire to purchase it cheaply, that is... but there are other motivations for privitisation beyond financial security. you lend a lot of credibility from the owner of your club, and that filters down to business dealings with the club, player retention and recruitment and all sorts of other positive benefits. then there's the quality of staff we'd have access to, which is a bit of a combination of the increased financial security and the increased credibility but an advantage in its own right too.

i worry about the club off the field, i don't think our club is as great or as proud as it can be and wish to see that rectified... but i'm not too worried about us on the field. i don't expect too much out of next year, but the long term signings we've made have been mostly very good and i see a lot of great things about our squad in general. it's just that pesky front row...

 

[Alex28]

I think most of us feel that way Peverse - but I really do object to our own fans writing us off as a one man team. It doesn't give the club enough credit for what they have achieved.

 

[RABK]

To be fair...Rudder was probably in the form of his life in 2001, compared to later seasons (while still playing outside Johns).

Tell you what...we could do with BK right now in our forward pack...wish he was about 5-10 years younger! Was definitely a major factor in our form during that period.

Rudder was in the form of his life for 3 games. The 3 games of the 2001 finals.

And thank f**k for that, he was a dreadful player outside that.


The sharks were all over us in the 2001 Prelim, we scored a dubious try with Kennedy kicking the ball from Rogers? hands (illegal play) but somehow despite playing tough but pretty poorly we still lead going into the final 10 when a cross field bomb from Rudder was snatched by Kennedy for the match winner.

So in a sense - Rudder got us into the 2001 GF. And Simpson is heralded a lot for his try saver on Ryan in the GF and deservedly so, but watch the GF again and spot the great Rudder try saver. A great tackle in the corner.


I should release a DVD box set. Sean Rudder - 'the definitive moments' ... all 6 minutes of them.




Just on that prelim final, that Johns moment/photo with the water bottle after he kicked the 40/20 in the 77th minute. Been in the crowd, a great moment for me as a 15 year old. I really hope we can experience a decent finals campaign soon.

 

[cram]

Just on that prelim final, that Johns moment/photo with the water bottle after he kicked the 40/20 in the 77th minute. Been in the crowd, a great moment for me as a 15 year old. I really hope we can experience a decent finals campaign soon.

I was also in the crowd and this is one of my all time favorite memories. I would love to be able to get hold of a copy of the still photo. It is on getty images but last time I looked you could not buy it,

 

[Alex28]

So in a sense - Rudder got us into the 2001 GF.

And Albert got us in to the Grand Final in 1997 with the tackle on Seers to stop him from scoring.

So there you go Rusty - without Sean Rudder and Darren Albert we wouldn't have two premierships.

 

[Newie is God's Country]

I think Tinkler wants us to be able to keep our blue collar roots for sure but wants us to to be no longer seen as a club which has a stigma of financial instabilty. It is this perception that could well be why marquee players brush us all the time. I don't buy that the lifestyle is the problem. Not being privy to the dealings of player contracts I am of course only speculating based on recent events that being the failed signings of JT, GI and Gaz. I am told quietly though that Gaz was very impressed by the club's offer but his heart was always leaning towards the Dragons.

 

[cram]

And Albert got us in to the Grand Final in 1997 with the tackle on Sears to stop him from scoring.

So there you go Rusty - without Sean Rudder and Darren Albert we wouldn't have two premierships.

That tackle of Darren Albert's is my all time favourite moment because it was shear guts and determination of that tackle that even gave him the chance of scoring the last minute try.

 

[Newie is God's Country]

That tackle of Darren Albert's is my all time favourite moment because it was shear guts and determination of that tackle that even gave him the chance of scoring the last minute try.

You know Cram when you actually think about it when was the last time one player made two legendary match saving plays in a final series? Alby literally made the two biggest plays in this club's history in back to back games. That is a story he can tell his kids and grand kids over and over again. I will argue till the day I die that Alby's Grand Final winning try was the most exciting moment I have ever witnessed in sport. I was there at the game with Dad and we were just yelling over and over "We did it We did it". Complete strangers embraced each other in bear hugs with tears in their eyes. It was just so surreal. David slayed Goliath. It is giving me spine tingles just remembering it. One of the greatest days of my life and I am certain the same every one on this forum.

 

[Alex28]

Agreed boys - I know that the try gets on the highlight reels, however the tackle is my favourite Knights moment ever. We were gone if Seers scores. The tackle was phenomenal.

It is stuff like that...it highlights to me that we were NOT a one man team and it sh*ts me when people write us off like that. But it angers me when our own fans do it.