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tipoki banned for 16 weeks

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Tipoki Banned For 16 Weeks


15/04/2006
Duncan Johnstone
Blues player Rua Tipoki has been suspended for 16 weeks after being found guilty of striking and severely injuring Western Force utility James Hilgendorf with the Sanzar judiciary handing out their heaviest sentence against a New Zealand player.

Tipoki, who scored three tries in the Blues' 39-8 win over the Force on Good Friday, was cited for an incident in a tackle on Hilgendorf early in the match.

He received no mercy from the Sanzar judiciary in a hastily convened meeting in Auckland on Saturday morning.

They noted Tipoki's dubious record of two previous striking charges and the injury to Hilgendorf which forced him from the field with a cut face, fractured eye socket and concussion. There are fears there could be long-term health consequences for the Australian.

It's a sorry end to what was shaping as a marvellous season for Tipoki who has been in outstanding form with his elusive running helping re-ignite the Blues campaign.

They have won three matches in a row with Tipoki central to every victory. But he will now miss their three-match trip to South Africa where they face the Sharks, Cheetahs and Cats on a tour that will shape their semifinal destiny.

The judicial committee comprised Bruce Squire QC (chairman) and rugby administrators Ash Edwards and Pat Samson.

Tipoki was represented by his representative Heath Mills, Blues manager Ant Strachan and Blues assistant coach Joe Schmidt.

Squire said that, after hearing evidence from Tipoki and viewing video footage of the incident, the committee was satisfied that Tipoki had intentionally struck Hilgendorf.

Elbowed

Tipoki, 27, appeared to catch Hilgendorf with an elbow as he joined a tackle on the Western Force flyhalf early in the first half. Higlendorf lay prone on the ground for some time before being helped off the field.

The Force player suffered considerable injury including a fracture of the eye socket, a laceration over the left eyebrow and concussion. The Western Force team doctor indicated the injuries might possibly leave some degree of permanent impairment.

The committee considered that the offending was serious, that there was little to be said in Tipoki's favour by way of mitigation and noted that he had two previous appearances before the judiciary for striking offences.

In the result, because of the nature of the offending, the significance of the injury to Hilgendorf and the absence of mitigating factors, the committee determined that Tipoki should be suspended for a period of 16 weeks.

He was suspended from all rugby up to and including August 7.

The Blues have plenty of cover at second five-eighths where Tipoki has been starring. Luke McAlister and Isa Nacewa are options there.

But his loss will be felt, especially the unnecessary terms of it which add to the injury problems the Blues have suffered all year.

Tipoki's ban means his Super 14 season is over and he won't be available for his North Harbour province until the third round of the new Air New Zealand Cup competition.

He will also miss the New Zealand Maori tour of Canada in June where they will contest the Churchill Cup involving England A, Canada, the United States, Scotland A and Ireland A.

In 2003 Blues forward Troy Flavell was banned for 12 weeks after being found guilty of stomping on the head of Chiefs hooker Greg Smith.

But Tipoki's suspension has taken things to a new - and low - level.

The judiciary has cracked down on striking this year with several players already having served suspensions.

ouch for the blues he has been outstanding for them. i guess ise naecwa to 2nd five or 1st five with macallister to 2nd five and howlett on the wing.

flavell also injured
 

aussies1st

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Good dam 16 weeks, it looked like Tipoki was really finding some form.
I would laugh if the Blues put Laeva back at 10 and McAlister 12.
 

Jackal Dog

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What the hell is with this guy? last year he got banned as well for punching some Stormers player in the face then he goes and breaks Hilgendorf's eye socket this year. you normally play dirty when you are getting spanked, not when you are spanking them!
 

Iafeta

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Admittedly, only saw one shot of it in the game, which didn't concern me.

16 weeks seems a rather bad kneejerk reaction really.

That sort of tackle in league would get you two weeks max.
 

Ridders

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yeh, i just saw it on the news and my first reaction was that 16 weeks is pretty harsh for sometin like that...

in league u might get a grade 2 to 3 striking charge or possibly contrary conduct (neva saw the incident properly)...u wouldn't miss more than 5 games tops for that

mind u i neva saw the game and don't understand how the rugby judiaciary works either
 

Jackal Dog

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Very harsh should of been 3-4 weeks at max. Too bad for him I was thinking in his current form he could of been a bolter for the AB's....
 

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I think 16 weeks for foul play that could lead to permament eye damage is pretty lax actually.
 

Iafeta

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Disgusting piece of play?

I mean really - what are you guys looking at? The infringement, or the result?

It was an elbow, to a man falling. It wasn't an elbow on the way up which has a significantly higher degree of intention, it was an elbow between belly button and nipple height of a man standing upright.

Compare it to league fellas, you'd get 1-2 weeks max and bob's your uncle. If league followed union's policies we'd have blokes sitting down for 20 weeks for fairly innocuous tackles.
 

fieldo

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Ridders said:
yeh, i just saw it on the news and my first reaction was that 16 weeks is pretty harsh for sometin like that...

in league u might get a grade 2 to 3 striking charge or possibly contrary conduct (neva saw the incident properly)...u wouldn't miss more than 5 games tops for that

mind u i neva saw the game and don't understand how the rugby judiaciary works either


You don't get that much of that sort of tackle in league anymore...they have stamped it out. And if you do they throw the book at them if they have been there before.

Now they worry about any contact with the head....holding the neck or pushing down on the head when tackling or getting up.

League and Union however are clean games compared with the elbows you get in AFL.....now theres a tribunial with no balls.
 

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fieldo, it is arguable, dependent on which side of the fence you sit on that Steve Menzies copped Patrick Ah Van high with a shoulder/elbow, yet despite going on report, he didn't face the judiciary at all.

Given that, and a few other incidents that have gone untouched (I distinctly recall Bryan Fletcher hitting some Wests chump with the biggest haymaker in 47 years of any code only getting 2 weeks), Tipoki would have got 1-2 weeks max in rugby league.
 
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Iafeta said:
fieldo, it is arguable, dependent on which side of the fence you sit on that Steve Menzies copped Patrick Ah Van high with a shoulder/elbow, yet despite going on report, he didn't face the judiciary at all.

Given that, and a few other incidents that have gone untouched (I distinctly recall Bryan Fletcher hitting some Wests chump with the biggest haymaker in 47 years of any code only getting 2 weeks), Tipoki would have got 1-2 weeks max in rugby league.

menzies tackled compared with tipoki's haha. it was a cheap shot and got what he deserved its not like hes missing 16 games anyway.

even tipoki said he was trying to hurt him.
 

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Yeah, you're right. Menzies was going in to collect Ah Van's autograph. :roll:

Another test will be to see what Nate Myles gets after his hit on John Sutton. Missed him, fell off him, tackle was being made, Sutton standing still held about to be called, wind up, bang, drops him like a sack of sh!t.

I'm sure he won't get 16 weeks.

What did Hoppa get last year? A serial offendor? About 18 weeks for possibly the worst attack in any code's history? And Clint Newtown, 12 weeks for a flying Macho Man Randy Savage elbow shot?

Rubbed out of the game if it was league - pffft. He'd get 1-2 weeks max.
 
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elbow to the head when james higledorf had no way of defending himself (attacking the eye is the third highest area that crack down on). give yourself an upercut. yeah hes going to be lucky to even miss 8-9 games.
 

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Is playing dirty encouraged and applauded by league fans?

I mean, when one of you say "he would have only got two weeks for that in league", is that something you applaud? Are you proud that league is more lax on foul, dirty play than union?

It has nothing to do with which code is tougher, it surely has more to do with stamping out foul, dangeroaus play that could cause permanent injury to someone.
 

fieldo

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We don't have that sort of sh.. in the league game.....video gets it all and we have players on the tribunial...not old farts who played the game in the 1970's


It was a cheap shot.....he deserved it......in my day he would have been hailed a hero if he had got an Aussie.... brought a house,a car and a boat, and had a few tax free years if it had been a South African and never had to pay tax in his life if it was a pommy.

Bring back decent rucks when men were men and driving on the ball with your hands deserved a good kick in the head.

The game (both) is gone soft!!!!
 

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douglasallen91 said:
elbow to the head when james higledorf had no way of defending himself (attacking the eye is the third highest area that crack down on). give yourself an upercut. yeah hes going to be lucky to even miss 8-9 games.

So he eye gouged him?

Gee, my bad, I didn't see that. :roll:
 

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Gort Nook said:
Is playing dirty encouraged and applauded by league fans?

I mean, when one of you say "he would have only got two weeks for that in league", is that something you applaud? Are you proud that league is more lax on foul, dirty play than union?

It has nothing to do with which code is tougher, it surely has more to do with stamping out foul, dangeroaus play that could cause permanent injury to someone.

My comment was more aimed at the book being thrown at him in league.

I would be highly suspicious it wouldn't. Similar tackles, and that's all it was, a tackle gone wrong, not an eye gouge as far as I saw but I'll wait for douglas' response, would get a few weeks. Certainly not 16 weeks. You could fly through the air and attack someone's head and get 12 weeks, or in the case of Jamal Lolesi, 1 week.
 

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