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Todd Greenberg stands down

Perth Red

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why would anyone take on the role as NRL CEO now? you would have to be a complete masochist
it would be funny if the commission couldn't literally get anyone to officially take on the job.

for $1.2mill some merkin will want the job. The problem lies in finding someone of high calibre who wants the job!
 

betcats

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that’s because the jnr programs in the Afl heartland states are largely run by the State body without afl central funding. Means the afl can fund a lot more into its expansion areas. Nrl is totally the opposite with the expansion states getting a tiny % of the funding and nsw and queensland getting the lions share. Until the clubs and nswrl and qrl step up it will remain the case.

This is where the nrl or Arlc needs to step up. There’s needs to be some kind of standard for clubs to be working on grassroots and getting into schools and a better co-ordinated effort to make sure we are getting more kids into the game and keeping them there. Nrl players do not work full time, some may be studying or having another job when they are starting out but nrl training commitments are nowhere near full time hours. There is no reason every contracted nrl player can’t take part in one school visit or after school clinic each year, make it a contractual obligation or an obligation as part of the clubs grant. Whether rightly or wrongly the fact is CTE and neck injuries have us at a disadvantage at the junior level already. I understand the factional nature of RL can be a big hinderance to getting shit done but I still think they could be doing a lot better.
 

big hit!

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4 years! I didn't realise he was in the job that long.

Anyway, rugby league doing what it does best - it's a factional industry, which ends up becoming every man for himself, compared with stability they have done in Melbourne and other successful sports. They've had two CEOs in nearly 20 years. four in 35 years. Since 1960, the NFL has had just three.
 

Frailty

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This is where the nrl or Arlc needs to step up. There’s needs to be some kind of standard for clubs to be working on grassroots and getting into schools and a better co-ordinated effort to make sure we are getting more kids into the game and keeping them there. Nrl players do not work full time, some may be studying or having another job when they are starting out but nrl training commitments are nowhere near full time hours. There is no reason every contracted nrl player can’t take part in one school visit or after school clinic each year, make it a contractual obligation or an obligation as part of the clubs grant. Whether rightly or wrongly the fact is CTE and neck injuries have us at a disadvantage at the junior level already. I understand the factional nature of RL can be a big hinderance to getting shit done but I still think they could be doing a lot better.

All of them already do more than one school visit.
 
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For the past three seasons, we've had a junior NRL player from a club do 2 days a week at our Primary School. Not sure if it was happening again this year as the connection to the club ended as their last child went off to Year 7 this year.

Was pretty ace though.

Ironically, the three juniors over the three years are now all at other clubs.
 

mongoose

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4 years! I didn't realise he was in the job that long.

Anyway, rugby league doing what it does best - it's a factional industry, which ends up becoming every man for himself, compared with stability they have done in Melbourne and other successful sports. They've had two CEOs in nearly 20 years. four in 35 years. Since 1960, the NFL has had just three.

exactly, too many bodies, teams, organisations all fighting one another in League. Certain factions of the media seem to think they hold some ownership over the sport as well.
 

Frailty

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The reality of the situation is that Todd was an easy target:
  • He invested heavily in the NRL's digital department which acts as a competitor to News Ltd, SMH, and Fox Sports.
  • Nine and Fox are taking the opportunity of the TV Rights issue to put pressure on the NRL. It is no coincidence the NRL loses a CEO prior to TV rights deals.
The ARLC definitely needs a restructure to make it purely independent, but do you think the League Media will openly support a restructure that doesn't employ their mates (and their sources)? Absolutely not.
 

T-Boon

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They still have the national high school competition.
I’m not sure the increase in $ would do anything, the same few sports high schools would continue to dominate like they have for the past 20 years.

I agree. They would need to change the structure of the competition a bit. For example in stead of 3 rounds then finals. Make it 10 rounds then finals. Then a short SG ball and HM cup comp at the end of the season. Make high school teams the pinnacle for a while, then a rep season. Also, get 100 high schools entering a team in a comp rather than 16 high schools.
I think Johns' broader point is that high schools are potential a better for place for growth than local clubs.
 

no name

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I agree. They would need to change the structure of the competition a bit. For example in stead of 3 rounds then finals. Make it 10 rounds then finals. Then a short SG ball and HM cup comp at the end of the season. Make high school teams the pinnacle for a while, then a rep season. Also, get 100 high schools entering a team in a comp rather than 16 high schools.
I think Johns' broader point is that high schools are potential a better for place for growth than local clubs.
Schools aren’t interested in getting flogged by the sports schools.
Until there is no RL programs in sports schools (which will never happen), the high school comp will have little interest.
 

Perth Red

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https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/04/20...utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=NetworkContent

It’s hard to see where the game goes from here. The clubs and states will never relinquish the power they now hold over the commission which means we are always going to see strategic decisions made that are swayed to the benefits of self-interest at the cost to the long term future of the game. I can’t see anyway of going back and resetting the independence of the commission so can see no future that doesn’t look like what we have now, oh well no one said being a RL fan was an easy ride :)

ironically the best hope was for Ch9 to get their wish and no season this year, the clubs and states to get into such a financial mess they had to agree with nrl demands, but that now seems to have been averted.
 
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The reality of the situation is that Todd was an easy target:
  • He invested heavily in the NRL's digital department which acts as a competitor to News Ltd, SMH, and Fox Sports.
  • Nine and Fox are taking the opportunity of the TV Rights issue to put pressure on the NRL. It is no coincidence the NRL loses a CEO prior to TV rights deals.
The ARLC definitely needs a restructure to make it purely independent, but do you think the League Media will openly support a restructure that doesn't employ their mates (and their sources)? Absolutely not.

Agreed. The first point especially was a great initiative and gives access to all games for free for customers of their major sponsor. Neither Channel 9 nor Foxtel offer that. It was never gonna be a full-blown competitor to major media but that’s not how major media saw it...

Funny how the mob got together with their bloodhounds to lead them to the CEO’s door after that. Now they’ve hammered the NRL “over-spending” to the public in the light of coronavirus...

NRL will indeed be cutting costs to survive like all businesses. The usual targets are non-essentials.. will NRL media be one of them? You can bet your backside News and Nine are hoping so. But who’s the winner in that if it happens?

Definitely not the fans of the game.
 
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https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/04/20...utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=NetworkContent

ironically the best hope was for Ch9 to get their wish and no season this year, the clubs and states to get into such a financial mess they had to agree with nrl demands, but that now seems to have been averted.

I can’t be certain this was indeed the case, their intention etc, but it does have merit. And if is the intention - again it’s an example of a media outlet acting in their own self-interest at the expense of the fans.
 

Quicksilver

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This is where the nrl or Arlc needs to step up. There’s needs to be some kind of standard for clubs to be working on grassroots and getting into schools and a better co-ordinated effort to make sure we are getting more kids into the game and keeping them there. Nrl players do not work full time, some may be studying or having another job when they are starting out but nrl training commitments are nowhere near full time hours. There is no reason every contracted nrl player can’t take part in one school visit or after school clinic each year, make it a contractual obligation or an obligation as part of the clubs grant. Whether rightly or wrongly the fact is CTE and neck injuries have us at a disadvantage at the junior level already. I understand the factional nature of RL can be a big hinderance to getting shit done but I still think they could be doing a lot better.

I'd bet most players would have all done at least one school visit. Most probably much more. Plus most would have done countless hours at hospitals, charities and other boring miscellaneous corporate events.

Clubs do much more junior rugby league work than people here would like to acknowledge.
 

Frailty

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So News has identified the following candidates:
  • Andrew Abdo - Makes sense. Current acting CEO. Been CFO for 6 years.
  • Dave Trodden - NSWRL Boss since 2013 after being chairman at Wests Tigers. Talking up his 'achievements' as opening Centre of Excellence at Homebush and merging with CRL.
  • Paul White - Broncos CEO.
  • Peter V'landys - Seems unlikely given his current position as CEO of Racing NSW.
  • Don Furner - CEO of Canberra Raiders since 2008. "Has the ability to make tough decisions, including sacking his brother David as coach of Canberra in 2013"
  • Dave Donaghy - Melbourne Storm club boss. Former journalist.
  • Blake Solly - South Sydney boss since 2016. General Manager of English Super League between 2014 and 2016.
  • Simon McGrath - COO at Accor Hotels. Listed since he was a contender back in 2016.
 

Mr Angry

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the thing about perception is if you get enough people to believe it, it becomes reality.
Yeah VFL is world wide sensation in Victoria.

Well I recall Kent saying Greenburg was on thin ice, people disputed it, next minute he stands down.

Broken clock and all that.
 

Mr Angry

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pffftt replacement....

The chairman will run the place untill at least 2022, citing costs.
 

colly

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What about this Guardian story.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ked-once-peter-vlandys-landed-in-rugby-league

"""

The only surprise with Todd Greenberg’s departure from his role as NRL chief executive was the timing. And given the concerted media attack in recent days, perhaps even that wasn’t a shock. Greenberg was off with chairman Peter V’landys and there is not a long list of those who have fallen out of favour with the ARLC boss and survived.

Greenberg’s cards were essentially marked last September. Peter Beattie, after his beleaguered tenure, announced he would step down as ARLC chairman. Peter V’landys was emerging as his likely replacement. Already widely regarded as a strongman with enormous political clout and a penchant for imposing his will, the knock on him was that he would struggle to run both Racing NSW and the NRL.
Greenberg saw this as an opportunity to assert his power in the game. He canvassed behind the scenes to stop V’landys’ ascension. It was a play that was reckless and ignorant. A train was powering at full steam and he failed to heed the warning. It was a fundamental misevaluation of power - both his and that of the oncoming train.
V’landys’ influence is significant. When it comes to sporting administration in Australia, he is a strongman who has built his base on an ability to deliver, force of personality and sheer will. While his power is relatively unprecedented in recent times in Australian sport, his ability to influence and dictate is hardly a secret. A man who is willing to argue that the Melbourne Cup should be moved is a man afraid of nobody and a man not concerned about either enemies or political chicanery. """
 

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