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Too Many Nsw Teams!!!

Engine

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Competitions like the AFL, cricket, NBL and the A-League are truly national competitions. They have a wide vision for successful expansion of their competitions. While the NBL is a dud, the other competions are growing at various rates.

League, well I think they are not gaining ground anywhere. All of the problems lie with management. Management are too thick-skinned to look outside of Sydney. Rupert Murdoch was 100% correct, but stupid Sydney people were too narrow-minded to accept his vision for a wonderful promotion of our product. In 1995, we were KILLING union. I remember union was deadset struggling at that time. But, blockheads in our sport prevented its growth.

So, where to from here. I say, CUT the cancers which are in our game. If you don't cut a cancer, it spreads. The cancers in our game are Sydney clubs and we have to remove them. Here is my plan.

CUT LIST

1. Souths : Stuff you Murdoch for failing to beat those no-hopers. They represent nothing in our game and are in a low socio-economic area. League would survive without them.

2. Parramatta : Parramatta don't matter. Wests Tigers can cover their geographical area just fine. From Balmain to the Western Suburbs, which leave Parra without a purpose and clue.

3. Canterbury : Same reason as above.

4. Cronulla : St George Illawarra can cover their area. Cronulla are in the comp to make up the numbers and to laugh at.

5. Manly : They represent a small area in the world. Stuff them as they don't need a team. Md, they can relocate to the Central Coast:D .

6. Penrith : Wests can cover that area.

KEEP LIST

1. EASTS : To represent Sydney.

2. WESTS TIGERS : To cover the western surburbs.

3. ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA : To cover southern sydney and Woolongong.

That covers Sydney sufficiently. To have more than three teams is ridiculous.
 

badav

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There are too many NSW teams
There are too many Sydney teams

It would be ideal if we could cram down the number of Sydney teams and expand into other parts of the country that don't have any representation.

But the catch 22 is that canning foundation clubs or clubs with long history (sydney clubs) does alot of damage to the games supporter base. So it will not happen.

End of story.
 

Misanthrope

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I've already spoken to you about this. If I were making cuts, I'd be a little less harsh on Sydney. I'd want to keep St. George/Illawarra, Wests, Souths, Easts, Penrith, and Manly.

That's nothing against the other clubs (Hagan aside, I like Parramatta) - but it's a simple fact that the game is centralised around a city that by and large doesn't care about the game as much as it should. Melbourne crowds turn out in huge numbers to see their AFL teams - yet most NRL teams in Sydney struggle to break the 20,000 mark.

At the expense of Parramatta, Cronulla, and Canterbury - we'd be better able to include the likes of Perth, the Central Coast, and a Wellington franchise.
 

sharks4ever

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why change a game that has worked for nearly hundred years with sydney sidea keep all the sydney team and expand the comp to 20 years
 

Misanthrope

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why change a game that has worked for nearly hundred years with sydney sidea keep all the sydney team and expand the comp to 20 years

'Worked' is all a matter of perspective. The game certainly hasn't expanded a great deal in terms of territory in its one hundred years when you compare it to sports such as football, rugby, and even cricket. We're doing better than the AFL, but that's because only southerners are stupid enough to consider it a legitimate sport.
 

Engine

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sharks4ever said:
why change a game that has worked for nearly hundred years with sydney sidea keep all the sydney team and expand the comp to 20 years

It took a Sharks fan to display their ignorance over expansion issues. Look at the wider picture, not at your pathetic club. You'll still have a club to follow in St George Illawarra.
 

colonel_123

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Engine said:
Competitions like the AFL

How many Victorian teams are in the AFL?

Has that prevented them from expanding their competition?

AFL has two expansion teams in WA, two in SA, one in NSW and one in QLD.

NRL has three expansion teams in QLD, one in Melbourne, one in the ACT and one in NZ.

Both competitions have 6 expansion teams, the AFL just happens to have teams in WA and SA where the NRL has teams in the ACT and New Zealand.

I don't really see what the big difference is that warrants the NRL to start dumping teams.

All that dumping teams is going to do is cost the game fans. Just because there'd be fewer teams in Sydney doesn't mean you'd have better support. I'm a Wests Tigers fan and if my team was lost there's no way I could envisage supporting the Bulldogs or Panthers (next two closest teams) with anything near the same intensity and passion I support the Tigers.

I'd likely be lost to the game. And so would thousands of others.

And on that note surely this discussion has been done to death!
 

S.S.T.I.D

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Engine said:
Competitions like the AFL, cricket, NBL and the A-League are truly national competitions. They have a wide vision for successful expansion of their competitions. While the NBL is a dud, the other competions are growing at various rates.

League, well I think they are not gaining ground anywhere. All of the problems lie with management. Management are too thick-skinned to look outside of Sydney. Rupert Murdoch was 100% correct, but stupid Sydney people were too narrow-minded to accept his vision for a wonderful promotion of our product. In 1995, we were KILLING union. I remember union was deadset struggling at that time. But, blockheads in our sport prevented its growth.

So, where to from here. I say, CUT the cancers which are in our game. If you don't cut a cancer, it spreads. The cancers in our game are Sydney clubs and we have to remove them. Here is my plan.

CUT LIST

1. Souths : Stuff you Murdoch for failing to beat those no-hopers. They represent nothing in our game and are in a low socio-economic area. League would survive without them.

2. Parramatta : Parramatta don't matter. Wests Tigers can cover their geographical area just fine. From Balmain to the Western Suburbs, which leave Parra without a purpose and clue.

3. Canterbury : Same reason as above.

4. Cronulla : St George Illawarra can cover their area. Cronulla are in the comp to make up the numbers and to laugh at.

5. Manly : They represent a small area in the world. Stuff them as they don't need a team. Md, they can relocate to the Central Coast:D .

6. Penrith : Wests can cover that area.

KEEP LIST

1. EASTS : To represent Sydney.

2. WESTS TIGERS : To cover the western surburbs.

3. ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA : To cover southern sydney and Woolongong.

That covers Sydney sufficiently. To have more than three teams is ridiculous.

:lol: :lol:

If you weren't an imbecile you might be on to something.
 

colonel_123

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Engine said:
Competitions like the AFL, cricket, NBL and the A-League are truly national competitions. They have a wide vision for successful expansion of their competitions. While the NBL is a dud, the other competions are growing at various rates.

League, well I think they are not gaining ground anywhere. All of the problems lie with management. Management are too thick-skinned to look outside of Sydney. Rupert Murdoch was 100% correct, but stupid Sydney people were too narrow-minded to accept his vision for a wonderful promotion of our product. In 1995, we were KILLING union. I remember union was deadset struggling at that time. But, blockheads in our sport prevented its growth.

So, where to from here. I say, CUT the cancers which are in our game. If you don't cut a cancer, it spreads. The cancers in our game are Sydney clubs and we have to remove them. Here is my plan.

CUT LIST

1. Souths : Stuff you Murdoch for failing to beat those no-hopers. They represent nothing in our game and are in a low socio-economic area. League would survive without them.

2. Parramatta : Parramatta don't matter. Wests Tigers can cover their geographical area just fine. From Balmain to the Western Suburbs, which leave Parra without a purpose and clue.

3. Canterbury : Same reason as above.

4. Cronulla : St George Illawarra can cover their area. Cronulla are in the comp to make up the numbers and to laugh at.

5. Manly : They represent a small area in the world. Stuff them as they don't need a team. Md, they can relocate to the Central Coast:D .

6. Penrith : Wests can cover that area.

KEEP LIST

1. EASTS : To represent Sydney.

2. WESTS TIGERS : To cover the western surburbs.

3. ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA : To cover southern sydney and Woolongong.

That covers Sydney sufficiently. To have more than three teams is ridiculous.

Re-read the post and actually noticed the proposed cut list.

Should have known better before biting.
 

t-ba

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Wow, I am dumber for having read that.

How the f**k did the Roosters and StGI make the cut? f**k you couldn't have chosen two worse supported clubs IN SYDNEY unless you picked the Gummies and the Panthers...

Hopefully the Dragons end up full time in the Gong one day.
 

Angry_eel

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Until we don't grow season ticket/membership system in our game there's no point of cutting teams.

AFL merge or move teams rather than cutting them. In our case, if you cut a team you basically lose the supporter base to another code.

How many North Sydney fans turned up to the grand final to watch the premier league side? They had a 15,000 crowd average which has basically been lost to Rugby Union or AFL now.

What the turdbrain Engine doesnt understand is, the more teams you cut the more supporters you lose.

I know Sydney has too many teams but cutting em just like that won't do anything. You need to market all the club better, raise their membership size and then whichever club is not pulling their weight cut them.
 

Engine

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1 Eyed TEZZA said:
LMAO!!!!

I cant say anything, this Engine guy has a few screws loose. HAHAHAHA

Are you crying because I chose to kick your team out of the comp? At least, it is pleasing to read that you hang on my every word and thoughts on rugby league.

Nobody will enforce my idea, so go and be happy and buy yourself some condoms so your hand doesn't get messy.
 

adamkungl

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Engine said:
Competitions like the AFL, cricket, NBL and the A-League are truly national competitions. They have a wide vision for successful expansion of their competitions. While the NBL is a dud, the other competions are growing at various rates.

League, well I think they are not gaining ground anywhere. All of the problems lie with management. Management are too thick-skinned to look outside of Sydney. Rupert Murdoch was 100% correct, but stupid Sydney people were too narrow-minded to accept his vision for a wonderful promotion of our product. In 1995, we were KILLING union. I remember union was deadset struggling at that time. But, blockheads in our sport prevented its growth.

So, where to from here. I say, CUT the cancers which are in our game. If you don't cut a cancer, it spreads. The cancers in our game are Sydney clubs and we have to remove them. Here is my plan.

CUT LIST

1. Souths : Stuff you Murdoch for failing to beat those no-hopers. They represent nothing in our game and are in a low socio-economic area. League would survive without them.

2. Parramatta : Parramatta don't matter. Wests Tigers can cover their geographical area just fine. From Balmain to the Western Suburbs, which leave Parra without a purpose and clue.

3. Canterbury : Same reason as above.

4. Cronulla : St George Illawarra can cover their area. Cronulla are in the comp to make up the numbers and to laugh at.

5. Manly : They represent a small area in the world. Stuff them as they don't need a team. Md, they can relocate to the Central Coast:D .

6. Penrith : Wests can cover that area.

KEEP LIST

1. EASTS : To represent Sydney.

2. WESTS TIGERS : To cover the western surburbs.

3. ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA : To cover southern sydney and Woolongong.

That covers Sydney sufficiently. To have more than three teams is ridiculous.

You didn't cut my team but you're still a moron. Cutting Parra and Penrith and Bulldogs assuming their combined million fans or so are just gonna jump at the chance to support the fkin tigpies? Jesus Christ. All this for a team in a city that won't give a sh*t. :crazy:
 

eels_fan_01

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Engine said:
Competitions like the AFL, cricket, NBL and the A-League are truly national competitions. They have a wide vision for successful expansion of their competitions. While the NBL is a dud, the other competions are growing at various rates.

League, well I think they are not gaining ground anywhere. All of the problems lie with management. Management are too thick-skinned to look outside of Sydney. Rupert Murdoch was 100% correct, but stupid Sydney people were too narrow-minded to accept his vision for a wonderful promotion of our product. In 1995, we were KILLING union. I remember union was deadset struggling at that time. But, blockheads in our sport prevented its growth.

So, where to from here. I say, CUT the cancers which are in our game. If you don't cut a cancer, it spreads. The cancers in our game are Sydney clubs and we have to remove them. Here is my plan.

CUT LIST

1. Souths : Stuff you Murdoch for failing to beat those no-hopers. They represent nothing in our game and are in a low socio-economic area. League would survive without them.

2. Parramatta : Parramatta don't matter. Wests Tigers can cover their geographical area just fine. From Balmain to the Western Suburbs, which leave Parra without a purpose and clue.

3. Canterbury : Same reason as above.

4. Cronulla : St George Illawarra can cover their area. Cronulla are in the comp to make up the numbers and to laugh at.

5. Manly : They represent a small area in the world. Stuff them as they don't need a team. Md, they can relocate to the Central Coast:D .

6. Penrith : Wests can cover that area.

KEEP LIST

1. EASTS : To represent Sydney.

2. WESTS TIGERS : To cover the western surburbs.

3. ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA : To cover southern sydney and Woolongong.

That covers Sydney sufficiently. To have more than three teams is ridiculous.

You want the Roosters to represent the whole of Sydney :lol::lol:

Mate 3 quarters of Sydney cant stand the sight of the Roosters. (Im not one of them).

Although i hate the Bulldogs they are probably the most supported team in NSW.

I think one team should relocate to the Central coast but i really couldnt say which one, all supporters of the side that did would be angry and upset if their team did relocate.
 

Jono Russell

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So Engine. If this did happen. Tell me would all 3 or 4 sydney teams play out of telstra? because if not then you would still only get a maximum of what 22000 to each game. As that is the capacity of most stadiums. 22000 x 3 sydney team = 66000. Wow what low figures.

Wait seeming your running this show, do you think the NRL and local governments will come up with 100 million to build 3 large stadiums. This wont work either because local councils like the southerland shire and penrith won't do sh*t for you because you dumped their side.
 

Engine

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Geez. I hate people who think fans would be lost to the game if their team got kicked out. Im sure all Newtown and Norths fans found a new team to support. Im sure that Souths fans found a new team while their old team was kicked out.

Peole adapt to the times. Im sure old Norths fans still watch Origin, finals footy etc.

Losing fans is a horsesh*t argument. People WILL find another team to support. Short-term pain for long term gain.
 
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