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boxhead

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It's been a "done deal" depending on who you listen to for almost a fortnight now. It seems though that more and more individuals are indicating it will be announced within the week.

ITKs and Journos are saying that personal terms and the transfer fee have all been agreed, apparently the only hold up is the payment structure.
 

hellteam

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99.99999 percent of people are full of shit, I don't know why I read all of it but I do.

Can someone please put me into a coma and wake me up on 1 September, all this Bale talk is giving me anxiety

IF Spurs sell Bale, it won't be until 31 August anyway imo
 

boxhead

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Pretty much. Journos the world over are preaching about how either he will be sold - the clueless Marca have said he will be sold by tomorrow morning - or how he will cause a fuss due to Levy "denying him an exit". Even though common sense tells you otherwise....Even if Bale genuinely wants to leave, he isn't going to go up in arms about it if we deny him a move. Not only that, but could you imagine the backlash after he signed all those advertising bits with EA Sports and the like that have him in a Spurs shirt for image rights?
 

Twizzle

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Its just one bloke at Marca causing the problems, everyone else has followed his lead.

Madrid haven't paid us jackshit for Modric and they are struggling with the balance which is why they offered us Coentrao, they have allegedly only paid us 20% of the €31 million. Its also why they made some pipssweak offer for Bale.

Bale has been upgraded and will be announced as new club captain very soon.
 

boxhead

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Its just one bloke at Marca causing the problems, everyone else has followed his lead.

Madrid haven't paid us jackshit for Modric and they are struggling with the balance which is why they offered us Coentrao, they have allegedly only paid us 20% of the ?31 million. Its also why they made some pipssweak offer for Bale.

Bale has been upgraded and will be announced as new club captain very soon.

It wouldn't surprise me, though I will still hold out until the club announces it to be sure. Can't believe Marca posted a new story saying "Levy is crazy not to accept 145 million euro bid" or words to that effect. It's like, how do we convince the rival CEO to actually negotiate with us? Refer to him as crazy for not accepting a bid that....hasn't even been lodged and will never reach those heights. Madrid are shooting themselves in the foot :lol:

If it is him choosing to stay, its good to see some loyalty, unlike some of Money Mercenaries in world football.

He's already signed one or two contract upgrades/extensions in the past year, so there is still a money element involved. Not that one can really criticize him for it I suppose. He's one of the more shy, well spoken and down-to-earth high profile players you will see; Spurs fans love him for a reason.
 

Twizzle

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He probably would be crazy not to accept it but it was never offered, not even close.
 

Twizzle

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Whats being denied ?

They made an offer and it got knocked back. The offer was less than the Goons made for Suarez.

There are other teams sniffing around as well Madrid but Bale wont play in France.

If we got offered this so called big money of 100 million, personally I would take it and buy a heap of Gareth Bales. I dont think any player is worth that much.
 

boxhead

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Whats being denied ?

They made an offer and it got knocked back. The offer was less than the Goons made for Suarez.

There are other teams sniffing around as well Madrid but Bale wont play in France.

If we got offered this so called big money of 100 million, personally I would take it and buy a heap of Gareth Bales. I dont think any player is worth that much.

Levy is probably eating all of this up right now. Madrid are probably starting to realize - or about to - that Levy doesn't play games....

If we sell him for 100 million pounds, they can give us Di Maria and Coentrao for free, included in the 100 million pounds. I bet anything that is Levy's word to them; win win for us as either they are morons and accept it, or they decline and leave us alone until next season.
 

Twizzle

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Levy is fuming over the tapping up via the media. Not sure how long this relationship we have with RM will last.
 

Twizzle

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Nothing suggests he wants to leave, he has actually said the opposite when discussing next season.

Future may be different and he has expressed a desire to play in Spain one day.
 

shiznit

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I found this piece by Gab Marcotti a good take on it all...

Gareth Bale transfer reports and the interests they serve

Deep breath. We don't have official statements, we don't have quotes, we merely have "reports." And if there's one thing we've learned over the years is that clubs often tell reporters stuff to serve their interests. Which doesn't make the reports untrue, merely self-interested. And -- crucially -- preserving full deniability.

So what do we have?

Real Madrid supposedly making a $125 million bid ($130 million, according to some) for Gareth Bale. Tottenham saying they haven't received an "official" bid but making it clear they are not considering a sale. Gareth Bale's camp making it known he is a bit miffed because he thought there was a "gentleman's agreement" in place whereby he could consider a move if the bidding hit a certain number ($123 million). And, according to some outlets, Spurs chairman Daniel Levy is ready to fly home from his vacation to personally deal with Bale.

Let's start with the "gentleman's agreement." It's not a release clause. It's potentially a my-word-against-your-word thing. But that doesn't make it any less valid in the sense that if one party -- Bale, in this case -- believes that it is somehow being violated, he won't be happy and it will have repercussions. Nobody wants to play for a club run by a guy who he thinks lied.

That said, every indication coming out of Spain is that the bid -- if it exists -- is not exclusively a cash one. It's Angel Di Maria, Fabio Coentrao and $57 million in exchange for Bale. Implicit in all this is that Di Maria and Coentrao are worth $68 million combined.

That makes a huge difference. And you can see why Levy might have been rather more impressed with a $125 million cash bid than what he supposedly received.

Cash is something you can use to buy what you want. If you happen to want Di Maria and Coentrao and you think they are worth $68 million (or more), then they're as good as cash. If not, you're losing out.

Both Coentrao and Di Maria are 25. They are locked into deals through 2017 and 2018, respectively, which means that if you sign them, you're committing to more than $90 million in combined wages during the next five years. That rather reduces your wiggle room.

Real Madrid paid an initial $33 million for Di Maria plus up to an additional $14.5 million in performance- and appearance-related bonus (they've paid up on roughly half of that). Coentrao cost $40 million. When used properly, Di Maria showed he could be a world-class winger, offering work rate, tactical nous and quality. Coentrao, on the other hand, was somewhat more hit or miss, at least relative to the fee Jose Mourinho paid for him.

Yet valuations are based on supply and demand. And there is no way these two guys add up to $68 million, even if they were at the top of Tottenham's shopping list. The fact of the matter is that, with the return to fitness of Marcelo and the acquisition of Isco, neither Coentrao nor Di Maria is a bona fide starter at Real Madrid. And Transfer Law 101 tells you that when you have guys on big long-term deals who aren't full-time starters, then their value starts to slide. And because there aren't many teams who can afford these guys, it dips even further.

From Tottenham's perspective, there's obviously a number at which it makes sense to sell. Maybe, in fact, it's considerably less than $125 million. But that's a cash figure. Once you start sticking other guys into the mix, different factors come into play and everything changes.

As for Real Madrid, you can see what they were hoping to do. Take the $65 million from the sales of Gonzalo Higuain and Raul Albiol, chuck in two guys whose minutes were bound to drop substantially and you've landed Bale, with plenty of change left over. In one fell swoop you clear out four players you were willing to sell anyway, you save yourself money on wages (which you can then use to give Cristiano Ronaldo the bump he deserves) and you get arguably the hottest commodity in the Premier League.

Nifty, eh?

Levy put a stop to it, at least on those terms. But you really have to wonder whether Bale is what Madrid need right now. Sure, the idea of two elegant, prolific, athletic freaks galloping down either wing to terrorize the opposing goal is a nice one. But tactically, we'd be in uncharted waters. How is poor old Carlo Ancelotti, Real's new manager, supposed to make it work? What would it mean for the "other" attacking midfielder, whether it's Isco or Mesut Ozil or the somewhat forgotten Luka Modric? Or, indeed, what's the implication for the center forward -- at present, as far as we know, it's the star-crossed Karim Benzema? Is this the best way for him to regain his mojo?

Sure, the adage that great players can play together isn't entirely unfounded. You could sacrifice Benzema and employ Ronaldo as a center forward (and Ancelotti has said he'd like to see him operate closer to the opposing goal) and stick Bale wide. But Bale operated centrally last season -- and liked it -- so is that the best way to use him? It all smacks of needlessly complicating matters.

Maybe this is president Florentino Perez going all Galactico on us once again. For Real's sake, you hope that's not the case. You hope there is some broader plan at work. Like maybe a giant smoke screen aimed at prying Luis Suarez -- a signing that would make far more sense -- loose from Liverpool.
From: http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=mondaymusings&id=469#
 

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