Trial vs. Sharks

[~knights~]

Only because I don't say what you want to hear ;-)

no thats not it

you're still annoying :|

 

[Karmawave]

no thats not it

you're still annoying :|

But I love you! :nwave:

 

[perverse]

and another thing... bailey is almost certain to play more games in first grade than either walsh or dureau... as he can cover more positions, including utility off the bench.

 

[Karmawave]

completely moot point tbh.. when was the last time we had an injury free year in the halves?

injury is almost certain to play a part in almost every position on the field... and by saying this you've virtually guarenteed that if and when dureau does get a run in first grade then you'll be able to wheel out this line.

well done.

It's not that hard to understand. In my opinion ( we all have them ), when the players are FULLY fit, Dureau will not be selected in front of Mullen/Bailey or Mullen/Walsh.

If Walsh or Bailey or Mullen gets injured, I am sure Dureau will step in like the back up halfback he is.

If the Mullen/Bailey combination works well, and neither get injured, then Walsh or Dureau both wont be required will they?

If Mullen and Bailey doesn't work well, then by this stage Luke Walsh may have caught up his training after a lack of preseason work, and will be the first rank replacement if he is fully fit.

Dureau will get his first grade run only if Walsh isn't deemed ready to play first grade football again and injuries play a part with Mullen/Bailey/Walsh playing on the field in various combinations in 2008.

Self explanatory really...

 

[Karmawave]

and another thing... bailey is almost certain to play more games in first grade than either walsh or dureau... as he can cover more positions, including utility off the bench.

Ok lets simplify it even more... If Walsh and Mullen are fully fit, they will play more games in the Number 7 than fan favourite Dureau.

What I am trying to say cant be more obvious than that.

 

[~knights~]

Ok lets simplify it even more... If Walsh and Mullen are fully fit, they will play more games in the Number 7 than fan favourite Dureau.

What I am trying to say cant be more obvious than that.

ok we'll just leave it at that then

can we NOW end the"Great Halves Debate"

:lol:

 

[roopy]

If Walsh and Mullen are fully fit, .

way to cover yourself.
The last time Walsh played more than half a season was - never.

 

[Karmawave]

way to cover yourself.
The last time Walsh played more than half a season was - never.

Well of course fitness plays a part Roopy! If Mullen and Walsh somehow injure themselves and are out for the season, then obviously Smith will be FORCED to use Dureau won't he! Having said that, he wasn't used much last year even when they had injuries, so what makes you believe this year will be any different?!

It is all dependent on injury isn't it?!

Its fairly simple. If Mullen/Walsh and Dureau are all lined up side by side and are 100% fit, then Brian Smith would pick Dureau 3rd.

Now, are we clear? :lol:

 

[perverse]

way to cover yourself.
The last time Walsh played more than half a season was - never.

yeah.. that's what i'm saying..

i'm not bothering anymore. he's entitled to his opinion... even though it's not his opinion i have a problem with.

 

[Karmawave]

ok we'll just leave it at that then

can we NOW end the"Great Halves Debate"

:lol:

Yes! Please! :lol:

I am sick of writing about friggin Dureau to be honest. :lol:

 

[~knights~]

whats your involvement with the knights btw???

 

[Karmawave]

yeah.. that's what i'm saying..

i'm not bothering anymore. he's entitled to his opinion... even though it's not his opinion i have a problem with.

What is it then, something personal? ;-)

I always have private message available if you want to discuss anything, my approach, or anything else for that matter. Hell I'm not trying to argue with people, or put people offside, but I am frustrated and suprised at the amount of support certain players get on this forum. Its unbelievable.

Contact me anytime perverse - frankly I enjoy your posts alot.

 

[perverse]

Well of course fitness plays a part Roopy! If Mullen and Walsh somehow injure themselves and are out for the season, then obviously Smith will be FORCED to use Dureau won't he! Having said that, he wasn't used much last year even when they had injuries, so what makes you believe this year will be any different?!

It is all dependent on injury isn't it?!

Its fairly simple. If Mullen/Walsh and Dureau are all lined up side by side and are 100% fit, then Brian Smith would pick Dureau 3rd.

Now, are we clear? :lol:

ugh.. ffs.. i just can't help myself..
in the EXTREMELY UNLIKELY event that all 4 of them go through the season uninjured (im sure most bookies would give you 10000000/1 on that one...).. how do you know that smith would prefer walsh over dureau?

that's my question. you say it like fact, like we're all supposed to just accept it from you, no questions asked.. completely unchallenged.. yet you give us nothing but crap. give me a reason to believe you and i'll be more than happy to concede that dureau is strictly "the backup half". if you're not willing to give that then you're no better than the millions of others i've seen fumble through the forum claiming to be "in the know", and turning out to be nothing but hot air and bullsh*t.

 

[perverse]

What is it then, something personal? ;-)

nothing personal, i just want to know the reasons behind your opinion so i can effectively weigh it up in my mind.

 

[Karmawave]

ugh.. ffs.. i just can't help myself..
in the EXTREMELY UNLIKELY event that all 4 of them go through the season uninjured (im sure most bookies would give you 10000000/1 on that one...).. how do you know that smith would prefer walsh over dureau?

that's my question. you say it like fact, like we're all supposed to just accept it from you, no questions asked.. completely unchallenged.. yet you give us nothing but crap. give me a reason to believe you and i'll be more than happy to concede that dureau is strictly "the backup half". if you're not willing to give that then you're no better than the millions of others i've seen fumble through the forum claiming to be "in the know", and turning out to be nothing but hot air and bullsh*t.

1. Because he favoured Walsh over Dureau last year. And apart from Luke Walsh having an illness that has impacted his pre season, why will it be any different this year?

2. Because the Knights heavily chased Walsh to re-sign him for 3 years while Dureau struggled to get a one year deal.

3. Because Smith has stated publically before how much potential Luke Walsh has and his expectation that he will be the long term number 7 at the Knights to follow on after Andrew Johns.


Forget the hot air and bullsh*t. Forget the " in the know " innuendo. All 3 points above is either fact or public knowledge. You don't have to believe me when I state that Smith isn't a big Dureau fan - I am not seeking your approval in that sense. Its fact, and we'll see somewhere down the line! I think it was obvious last year if you need " proof " of that.

Lets just wait until the end of the year and discuss this again sometime down the line hey?

 

[~knights~]

well even before walsh played 1st grade

everyone was saying mullen was the heir to joey in the no.7

so you just never know sometimes

things can change quickly

 

[Karmawave]

Very true! Which is why I am trying to say, lets wait until the end of the year and discuss it all then in review!

Personally I'd love nothing more than Mullen to play 7 the entire year with Bailey in 6. If he is good enough for NSW half, for me, he is good enough for Knights half.

We won a competition with Sean Rudder playing 5/8 for gods sake. Mullen isn't a Joey, but he is good enough to work with Bailey, who is a better footballer than Sean Rudder.

Peace! Im a Knights fan too! :lol:

 

[perverse]

1. Because he favoured Walsh over Dureau last year. And apart from Luke Walsh having an illness that has impacted his pre season, why will it be any different this year?

2. Because the Knights heavily chased Walsh to re-sign him for 3 years while Dureau struggled to get a one year deal.

3. Because Smith has stated publically before how much potential Luke Walsh has and his expectation that he will be the long term number 7 at the Knights to follow on after Andrew Johns.


Forget the hot air and bullsh*t. Forget the " in the know " innuendo. All 3 points above is either fact or public knowledge. You don't have to believe me when I state that Smith isn't a big Dureau fan - I am not seeking your approval in that sense. Its fact, and we'll see somewhere down the line! I think it was obvious last year if you need " proof " of that.

Lets just wait until the end of the year and discuss this again sometime down the line hey?

thank you, was it really so hard? now we finally have something to actually discuss.

those are all fair points. i believe a lot of weight has been placed on the preseason that is currently coming to it's conclusion.. and i think if scotty has been training the house down (which, by all reports he has been) then he will get his chance to shine. in dureaus sole first grade game last year i saw enough to convince me that he has a much better head for leading a team around than walsh OR mullen.. and i think it's something we'll desperately need.

it is not my opinion that dureau WILL BE our next half back.. far from it.. i just believe he is in with as big a shot as walsh at this stage.. particularly with walshy hampered preseason. football is a funny game, and poorly timed injuries can easily be enough to shift the balance in issues like this.

indeed.. i think we'll be discussing this again somewhere down the track

 

[Karmawave]

I should point out, I don't have anything personal against Dureau at all - in fact, I'd love nothing more than to have him prove me wrong for the best interests on the Knights team!

I'd cop that anyday.

 

[Whats Doing]

This must be a record for posts about a trial game lol