Two refs is working well

[rossy]

Sorry to disappoint you all, but the ref was actually correct.

1. The TV clock is not the official time.
2. Shannon McPherson pulled his head out two or three times.
3. The rules state:

"If a scrum has been set and fed before time expires play shall continue until a player in possession is tackled or the ball goes out of play."

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It may well be a poor rule, but Suttor appears to have been correct in both halves of extra time.

 

[Ziggy the God]

Only 1 ref should have a whistle, the other should be there to help the main.

I am with Coaster, the experienced ref should have the whistle at all times.

 

[Ziggy the God]

Sorry to disappoint you all, but the ref was actually correct.

1. The TV clock is not the official time.
2. Shannon McPherson pulled his head out two or three times.
3. The rules state:

"If a scrum has been set and fed before time expires play shall continue until a player in possession is tackled or the ball goes out of play."

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It may well be a poor rule, but Suttor appears to have been correct in both halves of extra time.

A player pulled his head up???? He was still bound.

I could go through the rule book and find 100 places where the ref could blow the whistle. We could then call ourselves Union.

Ever heard of a term called 'Common Sense'?

 

[ozjet1]

Agreed. The automatic handover guarantees inconsistency.

it works for the AFL. just look at all the idiots who return to watch the game week after week. :roll:

 

[Eels Dude]

Shame about the ending. But last week everyone was stating we should get rid of the video ref cause of last friday night's blunder... now it's get rid of the dual ref system for this week's error. Mistakes are made, always will be no matter what format of refereeing we have. You cannot please everyone.

 

[ozjet1]

Sorry to disappoint you all, but the ref was actually correct.

1. The TV clock is not the official time.
2. Shannon McPherson pulled his head out two or three times.
3. The rules state:

"If a scrum has been set and fed before time expires play shall continue until a player in possession is tackled or the ball goes out of play."

​

It may well be a poor rule, but Suttor appears to have been correct in both halves of extra time.

was the scrum set? to me, it didnt look as though the two front rows werent even touching each other, let alone locked in.

 

[Parra]

Shame about the ending. But last week everyone was stating we should get rid of the video ref cause of last friday night's blunder... now it's get rid of the dual ref system for this week's error. Mistakes are made, always will be no matter what format of refereeing we have. You cannot please everyone.

That is true.

So go back to one ref.

 

[the_mighty_refs]

brett sutton was correct.
in the rule book, page 16 at the bottom it states Scrum: If a scrum has been set and fed before time expires play shall continue until a player in possession is tackled or the ball goes out of play.
Why don't you's all learn the rules before you make judgement.
Its not the referees fault that souths didn't know how to keep their scrum pack and if they wanted a quick start why didn't wing go and get the before and then waste time going to get it when Sutton blew time back on.
Its Souths own fault they lost the game, NOT THE REFEREE

 

[Chook Norris]

when he called a stop to the game in the first half of extra time when a play was still on.. i wasn't impressed at all
but for it to happen twice ....

fmd, the first 3 rounds had me convinced that the system was working.. and working well

now im totally against it

brett sutton was correct.
in the rule book, page 16 at the bottom it states Scrum: If a scrum has been set and fed before time expires play shall continue until a player in possession is tackled or the ball goes out of play.
Why don't you's all learn the rules before you make judgement.
Its not the referees fault that souths didn't know how to keep their scrum pack and if they wanted a quick start why didn't wing go and get the before and waste time going to get it when Sutton blew time back on.
Its Souths own fault they lost the game, NOT THE REFEREE

he was not right when he actually called time on when Wing had not even retrieved the ball yet

 

[lizziebra]

brett sutton was correct.
in the rule book, page 16 at the bottom it states Scrum: If a scrum has been set and fed before time expires play shall continue until a player in possession is tackled or the ball goes out of play.
Why don't you's all learn the rules before you make judgement.
Its not the referees fault that souths didn't know how to keep their scrum pack and if they wanted a quick start why didn't wing go and get the before and then waste time going to get it when Sutton blew time back on.
Its Souths own fault they lost the game, NOT THE REFEREE

good evening mr sutton

 

[the_mighty_refs]

he was right.
Souths should of kept their heads packed in the scrum. they didnt and he had every right to call time back on!

 

[The General]

when he called a stop to the game in the first half of extra time when a play was still on.. i wasn't impressed at all
but for it to happen twice ....

fmd, the first 3 rounds had me convinced that the system was working.. and working well

now im totally against it



he was not right when he actually called time on when Wing had not even retrieved the ball yet

He called time on because one of the second rowers lifted their head out of the scrum. The biggest mistake Suttor made was that he didn't blow time on after Souths set the scrum and then pretty much all stood up, but then blew time on for something as minor as lifitng a head out of the scrum.

One a different note, how stupid can footballers be. Surely they know the new rules about the scrum and time called back on if they move. Are they that dense that they can't just stay bound until the ball is fed.

 

[stuke]

all i can say is he was consistent in his rulings.

one thing though...he blows time on and Craig Wing just strolls over to get the ball after spending all that time walking about.

if the attacking team rushes to form a scrum, surely the halfback also has some obligation to be ready to restart the game. even the Eels had formed and were ready.

 

[ozjet1]

Shame about the ending. But last week everyone was stating we should get rid of the video ref cause of last friday night's blunder... now it's get rid of the dual ref system for this week's error. Mistakes are made, always will be no matter what format of refereeing we have. You cannot please everyone.

the video ref is f**ked. they'll go back and analyse ever facet of the play within the tackle contributing to a try, but hypothetically, if Idris was tackled short of the line and the Bulldogs were to score on the next play, there wouldve been no analysis of the prior play at all.

what makes every other play inferior to the play in which the try was scored? it's nonsense.

video ref should only be used for confirming the grounding of a try. everything else should be dealt with by the officials on the ground like they would on every other play.

 

[Eels Dude]

That is true.

So go back to one ref.

Nah, the game is too fast and complicated these days. It's good the video ref has been relaxed a bit this year, but I still think a second bloke on the field does more good than harm. Just need to clarify their specific roles a bit better.

 

[ozjet1]

brett sutton was correct.
in the rule book, page 16 at the bottom it states Scrum: If a scrum has been set and fed before time expires play shall continue until a player in possession is tackled or the ball goes out of play.
Why don't you's all learn the rules before you make judgement.
Its not the referees fault that souths didn't know how to keep their scrum pack and if they wanted a quick start why didn't wing go and get the before and then waste time going to get it when Sutton blew time back on.
Its Souths own fault they lost the game, NOT THE REFEREE

Souths lost the game?

Has something happened since that Im not aware of? :?

 

[Parra]

he was right.
Souths should of kept their heads packed in the scrum. they didnt and he had every right to call time back on!

Since you are the volunteer nit - what is the defintion of 'set' ?

 

[Ref2009]

indeed Brett Suttor was CORRECT in his rulings. The Souths players did not remain packed therefor time blown back on, then as per page 16 of the ARL 2009 Laws of the games "If a scrum has been set and fed before time expires play shall continue until a player in possession is tackled or the ball
goes out of play." it had not yet been fed.....so Full Time was blown. Correct decision. Well done Brett. Lets hope the media reads the rule book before making claims about this decison *cough* Phil Gould*Cough*


I think its time you people wake up and realize referees are human, they will make mistakes just like players. How about you get your ticket go out in the park and ref...lets see you do it...you do better.

 

[the_mighty_refs]

i think the 2 refs have been a good thing to happen to rugby league. the game is too fast 2day
i would also like to see the video ref relaxed more to only be able to judge in the ingoal.
Also on the 2 refs, some of them may not be the best at the monent, but as finch said on the sunday footy show that it will take time, its only been in for 11 rounds, not 11 year.

 

[Parra]

Nah, the game is too fast and complicated these days. It's good the video ref has been relaxed a bit this year, but I still think a second bloke on the field does more good than harm. Just need to clarify their specific roles a bit better.

Yet to see the benefit of having two refs.. Except the blame probability is halved. Despite the increase in mistakes.