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Ultrathread I: Thread of the Year - 2014

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KeepingTheFaith

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Predominantly yes, but no money just increases the need for innovation. Sadly that's the other area Australia lacks.

There's a growing trend in Hollywood where directors will make one indie film then go on to a blockbuster. Obviously that one film has to be good (not necessarily massively profitable) but it is possible.

Studio's always want to invest in upcoming talent, but you have to show them something first. Australia is more like a boys club sadly.
 

thorson1987

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Spartacus was mostly Australian but with American $$$.

This piece of shit.

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Although that had a bit of US$$$$ involved aswell didn't it.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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This piece of shit.

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Although that had a bit of US$$$$ involved aswell didn't it.

Yes, would have had it's fair share of American money. Screen Australia would most likely gave been the last ones to kick in (that's how they roll). Although Australia has some very good tax credits so really on a film like this 40% of the budget was probably already secure.
 

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In fairness the only US shows that still rate well in Australia appeal to the lowest common denominator who don't torrent and are happy to wait months for it to be shown in shitty standard definition.

The Big Bang Theory is the most obvious example of this.

Yet you have shows like:
- Game of Thrones
- The Walking Dead

Which pull in a rather good viewer base in Australia...

Do Australians lack creativity? I can't think of a great many ground-breaking, fascinating concepts (either written or filmed) to come out of Australia in a while now.

Certainly not. Australia has some brilliant creative artists, and agencies in the market. Melbourne is one of the top creative cities. Albeit, not for the films, but the creative minds are there.

They're just too busy instragramming everything. (Jks).

I just feel when we make shows it's either family drama or romantic comedies, ergo shows that have greater mass appeal. Your more risky shows just won't get on TV as they are looking for that big viewership number (or $$$, your choice).

What good TV shows has Australia made lately?

How about lack of talent? Watch an Aussie drama, and see how f*cking crap some of the talent is.

Most good things Australians make wouldn't appeal to an American audience. On the rare occassion they try and pick something up (Kath & Kim, I think Summer Heights High?) they always have to re-jink it so bad it loses what made it succeed.

This.

Mad Max, Gallipoli, Moulin Rouge, the first Underbelly, Around the Twist, Mr Squiggle, Two Hands, Looking for Alibrandi, Romper Stomper, Muriel's Wedding, The Castle, Priscilla Queen of the Desert - I don't think we're short of imagination. I think its commercial viability. Producers want American blockbusters, not meaningful cultural movies.

IMHO.

Agreed, we've had our fair share.
 

Rhino_NQ

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how can anyone not mention the great television that was border patrol (that was on the tv in our room in banff in Canada when I turned it on)
 

Misanthrope

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Mad Max, Gallipoli, Moulin Rouge, the first Underbelly, Around the Twist, Mr Squiggle, Two Hands, Looking for Alibrandi, Romper Stomper, Muriel's Wedding, The Castle, Priscilla Queen of the Desert - I don't think we're short of imagination. I think its commercial viability. Producers want American blockbusters, not meaningful cultural movies.

IMHO.

Quite a few of those were made more than a decade ago. Obviously we had creativity, but it definitely seems to have dried up from a television and film sense. Animal Kingdom is probably our only recent cinematic success with any redeemable qualities (f**k Australia).

I get what you mean about the demand for blockbusters, but it's not like the know how is not there to make them at home. We've got the facilities and there's no shortage of talented directors and technical crew to make it happen.

The big sticking point is money. It's a shame nobody wants to gamble on creativity, because I imagine there could be some really good Australian made television and film, and some of it (gasp) even set in Australia - that could appeal to a mass audience if it were properly financed.

Certainly not. Australia has some brilliant creative artists, and agencies in the market. Melbourne is one of the top creative cities. Albeit, not for the films, but the creative minds are there.

I'm not talking about artists, musicians, or advertisers, though. I'm talking specifically about film-makers. I know the money is lacking, but our cinematic culture lags severely behind both the obvious powers (England, USA, India) and even less well known markets (China, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong). Even The Philippines and other developing nations have a more active local film culture than us.

Obviously this is due in large part to the fact they have their own language to cater to, but the funding is also there, and that inspires people to pursue their ideas.

No surprise that the bulk of the 'golden generation' of Australian film and television came about in a time where we were both funding the industry, and when the difficulty importing foreign TV programming necessitated a greater focus on home grown productions.

What good TV shows has Australia made lately?

How about lack of talent? Watch an Aussie drama, and see how f*cking crap some of the talent is.
Which is odd when you consider in the last 30 odd years we've also produced the likes of Nicole Kidman, Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger, Russell Crowe, Guy Pearce, Hugo Weaving, Sam Worthington, Chris Hemsworth, Liam Hemsworth, Naomi Watts, Toni Collette...

Fat Pizza

But in all seriousness, my point is that Australian TV production is geared towards mass appeal. If it is good or not is a different story.

Awful show. Still, at least SBS was/is encouraging people to create television that appeals to more than just the lowest common denominator.

I miss full frontal

I do miss the days where Australian satire was so well honed. We've still got ABC producing some good satirical stuff, but it seems to have all but disappeared in favour of imported crap on the commercial networks.
 

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Mad Max, Gallipoli, Moulin Rouge, the first Underbelly, Around the Twist, Mr Squiggle, Two Hands, Looking for Alibrandi, Romper Stomper, Muriel's Wedding, The Castle, Priscilla Queen of the Desert - I don't think we're short of imagination. I think its commercial viability. Producers want American blockbusters, not meaningful cultural movies.

IMHO.
Look both Ways was another very good Australian film. I loved Round the Twist, fantastic show, you wouldn't get a kids show like that any more.

Speaking of early 00's SBS, Life Support, John Safrans Music Jamboree, now they were very good, clever TV shows I thought.
 

Misanthrope

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Loved both of the above. Life Support was regular weekly viewing in my place, and anything John Saffran did was generally enjoyable.

I hope the folks have digital at home now. I'd like to be able to watch some Aussie TV, such as it is.

Is this Offspring show I hear women bleating about like menopausal cows worth a look?
 
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