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Umaga's thieving mission

Archangel2

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2black2strong....OK your either A) Sunny Bill, or B) His Manager Hassan or Hessian or Hazzar or whatever his name is...or C) Just a noter...

However the contract does look like a real one, still Photoshop and a good printer and I could chuck one together in a couple of hours...still I'll take you at your word.

Hey I just had another thought maybe your Mundine(LOL)

Anyways whoever you are good info...see you've been here since 12-04-2008. Want to tell us anything else about ya buddy Sonny Bill?
 

mean

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The only bit of paper that is that wide, is sh*t paper.

You did have me for awhile though!
 

Micistm

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Why do they refer to him as SBW and what is with the weird "torn page" effect?


Lol, I didn't want to be rude and suggest an accusation of any sort, but the 'SBW' on a contract didn't look overly legit TBH. But anyhoo, I'm a little over the whole thing now, I just want to go back to the Footy pretty much. I've said it before and will say it again, while most of us League fans are disappointed he's switched and we won't see him in the game again, for the most part we don't actually care-We've had great players before, we'll have them again with great young ones coming up through the ranks. Anyone that doesn't want to play (And how often has he been there in the Kiwis the last few years anyway, really? Wasn't there for '05 and '06, and we did okay then) is no big loss.
What bugs and will continue to do so is the Classless way he has decided to act- And it can be smoothed over to the n'th degree, it just doesn't cut the mustard IMO. He pledged support, then run out. He's hidden in toilets aside from some propaganda speel he's done on The Footy Show, obviously rehearsed through with all the Mudine-isms. All criticism of the Doggies taken on board- The way he's come out and bagged a Club thats supported him since his teens smacks of a very immature (Not to mention) confused young fella. I hope it's all worth it to him in a few years.

Nuff said now I think, unless some bombshell comes out this week. Time to be positive and go back to the Footy again. I'll still follow the legal side with interest though.
 

Micistm

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Not wanting to fire things up again, I was thinking about it today- Probably the saddest thing for me is the way fans & Leagueys themselves are very heated bashing each other over this. Most peoples view are extremely polarised one way or the other, much like the Superleague B.S, and the possibility this splits league again with infighting...even heated discussions on forums...and what really worries and breaks the heart.
We've got such a great game it's dead set torture when yet another off field crap thing happens again on either side of the ditch
 

ozbash

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Every dog has a price..

A compensation deal is set to end the Sonny Bill Williams stand-off saga between his former Canterbury rugby league club in Sydney and his new French rugby union club, Toulon.

Williams, who fled to France, despite having four years to run on his NRL contract with Canterbury, had been due to play in a Toulon trial this morning (NZ time) but did not take the field.
"A financial settlement is going to be found at the beginning of next week," Toulon president
Mourad Boudjellal told news agency AFP this morning while at the Toulon versus Toulouse match at the Mayol stadium.
Williams did not play so as not to "inflame the situation," Boudjellal added in reference to a New South Wales Supreme Court ruling which forbade Williams to play for his club.
In Sydney yesterday, Williams' former Canterbury Bulldogs teammate Hazem El Masri has admitted he felt the club may have been cursed in recent times.
With Williams's shock departure the latest in a string of dramas at the Bulldogs as they edge closer to the wooden spoon, El Masri conceded the club was at its lowest point in his 13-year career.
"The whole year's been tough," El Masri said. "You go through ups and downs, but it probably doesn't get any lower than this.
"It's amazing what things keep popping up. This is just another one. I think someone has just cursed the club over the last five years. I don't think it could get any worse.
"But every club goes through some tough times. You rebuild."
But El Masri refused to be critical of Williams for walking out on the club just one year into a five-year contract, saying: "The bottom line is it's up to him. He said he had his reasons. That's the way things go. He went about it his way … although I would have never done it that way."
El Masri made the comments on a day in which lawyers representing the Bulldogs and the NRL foreshadowed in court that they would begin contempt proceedings against Williams that could result in him facing jail or having his assets seized.
Toulon officials yesterday rejected the claims made in court that legal papers had been served on Williams after his debut last week in a continuation of the hardline stance adapted by the club's owner Mourad Boudjellal.
"That's absolute rubbish," a Toulon source told AAP.
"They haven't handed any papers to him, definitely not. I don't know where they stand legally, but they [the NRL] seem to be making a lot of noise because they can't do much more than that."
Boudjellal went further by suggesting that Williams's shock walk-out and code switch was related to wider problems at the Bulldogs, a club he didn't even know existed six months ago.
"When something like this happens, it's not just the the fault of the club or just the fault of the player - it's normally a bit of both. It's more complicated than that," he said on the club's website.
"If I was the president of the Bulldogs [George Peponis], the first question I would ask myself is why has a player left the club in these conditions?
"If Sonny Bill left us after being disgusted at what's been going on, why? If he's disgusted about what's been going on, perhaps other players are as well.
"Perhaps he [Peponis] should try and sort out his problems.
"Obviously, the easiest thing for everyone to say is that it's [about] money but that means you can avoid asking yourself the hard questions. But it doesn't mean it's as easy as that. There's a lot more to it than money."
Asked about the possibility of Williams being arrested, Boudjellal said: "Obviously the French don't have the same culture as Australia because, I'd suggest, getting arrested for that … there are a lot of far more shocking things in the world which go on that you would get arrested for before that".

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4656346a1823.html
 

2black2strong

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2black2strong....OK your either A) Sunny Bill, or B) His Manager Hassan or Hessian or Hazzar or whatever his name is...or C) Just a noter...

However the contract does look like a real one, still Photoshop and a good printer and I could chuck one together in a couple of hours...still I'll take you at your word.

Hey I just had another thought maybe your Mundine(LOL)

Anyways whoever you are good info...see you've been here since 12-04-2008. Want to tell us anything else about ya buddy Sonny Bill?

Why do they refer to him as SBW and what is with the weird "torn page" effect?

The only bit of paper that is that wide, is sh*t paper.

You did have me for awhile though!

The contract just looks a little Odd TBH.


Revealed: What Sonny Bill is worth

By Brad Walter
March 10, 2005

Sonny Bill Williams has been offered a deal worth $3 million to play in Britain, but the teenage Bulldogs sensation is set to stay in the NRL for less than half that amount.
The Herald can reveal that Super League heavyweights St Helens made the massive offer to Williams last month. It included a house, car and annual return flights to Australia.
St Helens also suggested that he could secure a personal sponsorship deal worth up to £100,000 a season.
But the 19-year-old has knocked back the three-year deal that would have made him the highest-paid player in league and made it clear he wants to remain with the Bulldogs.
Bulldogs chief executive Malcolm Noad said last night that negotiations with Williams were continuing and he was confident of retaining the New Zealand Test back-rower.
However, the details of the contract offer show how hard it is for NRL clubs to compete with their Super League rivals.
In addition to off-field sponsorship arrangements, which NRL clubs are forbidden from negotiating for players under the salary cap rules, St Helens also offered to pay some of Williams's money into an offshore tax-free trust.


The playing component of the three-year offer is £175,000 a season plus match payments estimated to be worth a further £25,000.
The benefit to Williams was that £135,000 of the £175,000 contract money would have been paid into a legal tax-free trust.
Williams would also have been be provided with a three- or four-bedroom house, a car, private health insurance and a return flight to Australia or New Zealand annually.
St Helens chairman Eamonn McManus estimated that Williams would have to be on a gross package in Australia of $900,000 a year to earn the same after-tax income.
In addition, McManus said in a letter of offer to Williams, that St Helens were "uniquely placed ... to access major blue-chip corporate sponsorship and endorsements" for Williams.
A £100,000-a-year sponsorship arrangement that Great Britain lock Paul Sculthorpe has with Gillette was cited as an example of what Williams could aspire to.
"We have a number of ideas to create SBW into a major and very lucrative brand in his own right from which he will directly benefit," McManus also wrote.
"By way of example, we recently obtained and negotiated a £100,000 sponsorship for Paul Sculthorpe from Gillette."
Williams, who will be 20 in August, could have accepted the offer and returned to the NRL in 2009 with up to another decade ahead of him.
Andrew Johns, whose mantle as the world's best player is widely expected to be taken by Williams, turns 31 in May, while Brad Fittler was 32 last season.
But after briefly considering St Helens' initial offer, Williams did not wait to learn whether the club was prepared to go higher and instructed his agents, Chris and Gavin Orr, to focus on negotiating the best possible deal they could with the Bulldogs.
Noad said that talks were ongoing and he was confident of re-signing Williams soon.
"Everything is going OK, I think," Noad said. "These things are just never quick, unfortunately."
Meanwhile, the Bulldogs have been rocked on the eve of tomorrow night's season-opening match against St George Illawarra by the news that forward Willie Mason could be sidelined until round 20. It was initially thought that Mason would be out of action with a foot injury - sustained in Australia's December 1 international against the United States - until early June. After visiting a specialist his recovery date is now set at late July.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/03/09/1110316096193.html
 

2black2strong

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What the hell are you talking about? Click on the link. I didn't make that contract. It's attached to that article.
 
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Micistm

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Cheers for that 2B2S, makes a bit more sense now.

God, that Club owner (Not bothering to go back and learn how to spell his name) is not doing much to dispel the myth all French dudes are arrogant pricks
 

ozbash

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FORMER Labor party senator Graham Richardson is the secret powerbroker behind a $750,000 compensation payment to the Bulldogs for the release of Sonny Bill Williams to play rugby union in France.
The Saturday Daily Telegraph can reveal that Richardson negotiated the settlement late last night as the intermediary in talks between the Bulldogs and Toulon.
A guarded Bulldogs CEO Todd Greenberg last night said he was hopeful of finalising the settlement over the weekend. The ex-Senator initiated negotiations on Thursday night when he phoned Greenberg and chairman George Peponis.
Greenberg spoke with Richardson at regular intervals yesterday, following Williams' decision to comply with the NSW Supreme Court injunction and sit out his rugby club's recent trial match

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/sport/nrl/story/0,26799,24189164-5006066,00.html
 
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Well that should be the end of it now then

SBW has come out of it pretty well, as long as having respect isn't important to him

Walks out on his deal, gets the new one he wants, and i bet that none of the compensation money will be leaving his pocket
 

ozbash

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Walks out on his deal, gets the new one he wants, and i bet that none of the compensation money will be leaving his pocket

yep, tana must have really wanted him.

makes the nrl look bloody weak though.
 

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yep, tana must have really wanted him.

makes the nrl look bloody weak though.[/quote]

Don't know about that OB. I think SBW is the sort of guy who will want more and more and ..... etc. With the dipsticks he is listening to egging him on he will never be satisfied and at the end of it all he will be remembered as having achieved bugger all.
I think the NRL is well rid of him and I think before too long Tana and his teammates will be happy to subsidise someone to take him off their hands.
"I am the greatest"; must be a muslim thing!
 

Micistm

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yep, tana must have really wanted him.

makes the nrl look bloody weak though.[/quote]

Don't know about that OB. I think SBW is the sort of guy who will want more and more and ..... etc. With the dipsticks he is listening to egging him on he will never be satisfied and at the end of it all he will be remembered as having achieved bugger all.
I think the NRL is well rid of him and I think before too long Tana and his teammates will be happy to subsidise someone to take him off their hands.
"I am the greatest"; must be a muslim thing!

Totally agree; good riddance to Mundine Jnr.

Seeing the Bulldogs had to continue paying the guy or they'd be in breach of their side of the contract, I'm assuming this man of principle would be donating that money to grassroots footie...helping the kids he claimed to want to inspire?:lol:

Mundine could have been great in League as well- Will he be remembered for that? Is he known for his boxing other than to those in boxing circles? Isn't he more known as 'that jumped up tosser'? That's SBW's future if he does not get some advice from elsewhere...anywhere!!!!
 
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Off work feeling crook today, and the midday news on 3 did nothing to help that situation

Weidler at the Airport waiting for Mundine, then following him around like a little puppy. Then they went to a few banks, and Mundine comes out holding a cheque for 300k, and proudly announces that he is paying the settlement for his "brother" coz he is a co-manager, and that they are part of a "Brotherhood" and that he would "Take a bullet for my brother" then gloating about how they were willing to pay more etc

SBW may as well change his name to Anthony Jnr and continue to be his puppet. SBW will never grow up and accept responibility for the actions he makes under the Nasser/Mundine camp
 

Micistm

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Cheers dude...you just HAD to get me going again! It staggers me they can actually get away with this.

My new wish list is for the Doggies to do well now, and especially for the Kiwis to do the business, show him what he's missing. He's so mind****ed by Mundine now it probably wouldn't matter though
 

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