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University- It is over.

Bob_Sacamano

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So.

This is my first year at university im in second semester, at Sydney Uni.

Im going to have to repeat this semester because im fail bound. Uni is so difficult, not what I expected at all. Im worried because USYD expell you if, you fail the same unit three times.


Im studying

Molecular Biol, Chem, PSYC and two math units.


Anyone here have some similar experiences of bouncing back after failing uni?
 

roopy

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Half the successful people in the world failed uni.

Even Albert Einstien was a uni dropout, and Bill Gates is the richest man in the world and a uni dropout.

Having said that, if you got in, you have the brains to do it, so get off here and start studying.
 

Timbo

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My first crack at Uni was a catastrophy, doing Communications I was on the verge of failing everything.

I went away, came back, now have an Honours degree in Political Science and am halfway through my PhD.

Don't let a few bad marks get you down.
 

_snafu_

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I used to tutor at uni.

If you can get in to uni, then you are smart enough to finish your degree.

The most common theme about those who struggle studying at uni is that they have come from a very structured study environment at school. As you would know, study at uni is unstructured. New found independence and social activities at uni can affect the way you study. You have to properly plan what you study and when outside of lectures and tutorials.

Are you working (either full or part time)? This will obviously have an effect on study. If you have to work to live, the only answer is to take less subjects. It might take longer to get through uni, but at least you'll get through.

A service that Sydney Uni provides is a student assistance programme to help struggling students. Don't be proud or think you are any less smart by using this service, it's there to help.

Do you enjoy what you are studying? I actually changed my degree course when I found that I did not like what I was doing.

The only other optionI can think of, and it may be partly associated with the point that I made immediately above, is to get out of uni for a few years, enter the workforce and then enrol as a mature aged student. Sometimes you need to live a life and get away from study to know exactly what you what to do. Also, having a bit of life experience will help you focus on studies.

Hope this helps.
 

Timbo

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I used to tutor at uni.

If you can get in to uni, then you are smart enough to finish your degree.

The most common theme about those who struggle studying at uni is that they have come from a very structured study environment at school. As you would know, study at uni is unstructured. New found independence and social activities at uni can affect the way you study. You have to properly plan what you study and when outside of lectures and tutorials.

Are you working (either full or part time)? This will obviously have an effect on study. If you have to work to live, the only answer is to take less subjects. It might take longer to get through uni, but at least you'll get through.

A service that Sydney Uni provides is a student assistance programme to help struggling students. Don't be proud or think you are any less smart by using this service, it's there to help.

Do you enjoy what you are studying? I actually changed my degree course when I found that I did not like what I was doing.

The only other optionI can think of, and it may be partly associated with the point that I made immediately above, is to get out of uni for a few years, enter the workforce and then enrol as a mature aged student. Sometimes you need to live a life and get away from study to know exactly what you what to do. Also, having a bit of life experience will help you focus on studies.

Hope this helps.

That's a good point. Nothing spurred me on during my second crack at uni quite like the fact that I'd worked for 18 months as a labourer and knew how hard the real world was without qualifications.
 

roopy

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My niece was just short of 16 when she started Uni.

Even though she had done very well in her HSC at a selective high school, she wasn't ready for Uni by any stretch of the imagination, and failed her first subject.
I'm pretty sure that was the first time in her life she ever failed any subject.

Anyway, she got her sh*t together and is doing her Honours year of her four year degree now.

Learning how to find information, rather than have it given to her to soak up like a sponge, was her issue i think.
 

miguel de cervantes

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The most important thing to learn at university is how to learn by yourself. This will put you in good stead for the rest of your life.
 

Bob_Sacamano

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Thanks everyone.

Ok, ive made up my mind, if I fail all my units this semester, next year when I repeat I will go part time

Study more.


Also I dont think I can transfer, since my GPA would be so low, so im stuck in this course.
 

Didgi

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My first crack at Uni was a catastrophy, doing Communications I was on the verge of failing everything.

I went away, came back, now have an Honours degree in Political Science and am halfway through my PhD.

Don't let a few bad marks get you down.

I knew there had to be a reason why a Raiders fan talked so much sense.
 

Alehana

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So.

This is my first year at university im in second semester, at Sydney Uni.

Im going to have to repeat this semester because im fail bound. Uni is so difficult, not what I expected at all. Im worried because USYD expell you if, you fail the same unit three times.


Im studying

Molecular Biol, Chem, PSYC and two math units.


Anyone here have some similar experiences of bouncing back after failing uni?

Mate,

i failed 3 units in second semester of my first year, mainly coz i didn't attend, since then i'm averaging 60's, which is good for me, i'm not naturally smart, so i'm studying constantly to get average grades. also i'm doing or done, chem, psyc? i assume its physics and lots of math units, just make sure u attend and have fun get amungst the social life, helps takes ur mind off it
 
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Thanks everyone.

Ok, ive made up my mind, if I fail all my units this semester, next year when I repeat I will go part time

Study more.


Also I dont think I can transfer, since my GPA would be so low, so im stuck in this course.

Can I ask what course you are doing?

It's not about how much you study bro, but how you study. Make sure it is quality and specific to the objectives of the unit. Follow the syllabus/focus questions and you can't go wrong. I had this problem when I was in first year where I would study quite hard and yet only come out with passes and maybe credits.

Now I put in little work, yet manage Distinctions/HD's. Quality of study is most important
 
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The most important thing to learn at university is how to learn by yourself. This will put you in good stead for the rest of your life.

Totally agree...most people fail their courses because they don't have the self discipline to push themselves.

Me..I got my degree in criminology and politics through looking at the end goal of coming out of it with a degree, with self satisfaction and personal pride.
 

Bob_Sacamano

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Guys, I have a question

Next semester im pre enrolled for Chem 2401, 2402 PCOL 1001 and HSPC

I have the required pre requisites for all those units. Can I do them next year even though I failed everything else this semester?

And just make up the failed unit points some time later, say next year summer school or an extra semester past third year?

Epic fail this semester.

Its USYD btw.
 

chefman21

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That's a good point. Nothing spurred me on during my second crack at uni quite like the fact that I'd worked for 18 months as a labourer and knew how hard the real world was without qualifications.

Yep. When I first left school I was either going to be a geek or a chef. I went to university and did IT for a year. Absolutely despised it. One of the worst decisions I ever made. I was also working part time in a night club which didn't help. So I decided to do my chef's apprenticeship. Now, there is not many tougher jobs in the world than being a chef. I was working on average 100 hour weeks in a 45 degree kitchen with a bunch of psychopaths in a high stress, high pressure environment. I did that for 7 years, worked with the likes of Tetsuya, Gordon Ramsay and Michel Bras. I've burnt myself hundreds of times, lost the tip of my thumb, seen drug f**ked chefs heat up palette knives and burn apprentices for overcooking a scallop, saw a guy put his leg in the deep fryer trying to clean the hoods, watched countless punch ups between chefs, had plenty of hot pans thrown at me or someone else and had a shoulder reconstruction amongst many other things all from a short career. My body gave up.

Decided to go to university, currently sitting my second Masters degree, graduated with Honours and a GPA of 6.32 and am enjoying life. Once you've worked in the real world there is all the more reason to succeed and you are better equipped to do it.
 
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Guys, I have a question

Next semester im pre enrolled for Chem 2401, 2402 PCOL 1001 and HSPC

I have the required pre requisites for all those units. Can I do them next year even though I failed everything else this semester?

And just make up the failed unit points some time later, say next year summer school or an extra semester past third year?

Epic fail this semester.

Its USYD btw.

Talk to your course coordinator man. Some unis let you, some don't. I'm not sure if USYD even have summer school for Science subjects, a lot of other unis don't

Also if you think you're failing, go to the doctor and get a medical period covering you for the examination period. That way even if you fail, they might give you special consideration so you can re-sit the exam in hope to pass at another date
 
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Talk to your course coordinator man. Some unis let you, some don't. I'm not sure if USYD even have summer school for Science subjects, a lot of other unis don't

Also if you think you're failing, go to the doctor and get a medical certificate covering you for the examination period. That way even if you fail, they might give you special consideration so you can re-sit the exam in hope to pass at another date
 
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The main differences I found between uni and high school are people who just try to remember key points, formulas, facts or anything like that struggle at uni, whereas those who try to understand them do much better. I know people who just memorised certain things through high school and did extremely well (UAIs over 95), and they get to uni and scrape passes (not bad I guess, a pass is a pass, but they can do 100 times better). Also, people who "bullsh*t" their way through exams get found out, as at uni they test you soley on substance (in high school writing a long essay in an exam almost guaranteed you a good mark, at uni this is not the case).

The difference in the way they are taught would be: High school is generally taught by educators who try and teach you the points to learn for an exam, which they basically know the structure and how it will be presented (in some subjects they almost know the questions and get students to prepare an essay they can sculpt around a question based on what the specific area it focuses on is). At uni however they try to not only teach you the techniques of how things are done, but get you to understand them and be able to apply them in a real world scernario. This is why all lecturers at uni (and some tutors, the ones that aren't honors students) usually have plenty of experience in the area they teach.
 

Bob_Sacamano

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Talk to your course coordinator man. Some unis let you, some don't. I'm not sure if USYD even have summer school for Science subjects, a lot of other unis don't

Also if you think you're failing, go to the doctor and get a medical period covering you for the examination period. That way even if you fail, they might give you special consideration so you can re-sit the exam in hope to pass at another date

What should I say to the doctor?

lol.

I ummm, have anxiety and the valium is making uni harder since a) I can't sleep b, it makes me a boring twat hard to make friends, harder to remember things.

And perhaps the most embarrassing I am extremely claustrophobic, its a struggle for me to not faint when catching the train in peak hour, or having shaky hands and breaking into a pool of sweat.

Im thinking of going part time aswell.....
 

adamkungl

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I just finished my Comp Sci degree (assuming i passed my last exam lol...). I didn't necessarily find uni difficult, but I made it difficult for myself. As someone said earlier, high school was a structured and disciplined environment. I always did my work, and even though I rarely studied, i smashed the HSC with close to no effort.

Uni doesn't work like that. My poor attitude to study carried over from high school, and combined with too much free time, booze, and no requirement to actually attend class, my marks nosedived. Mind you, thanks to last minute cram efforts I got through with mediocre to decent marks, and 2 fails in 4 years.

If you got into uni, you're smart enough to pass. Keeping up with your work every week is the most important thing. ie. exactly what I didn't do
 

Bob_Sacamano

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Adam, thats exactly my problem too.


Ive learnt my lesson the hard way, I became to lazy not attending any classes and just focusing on trying to bulk up at the gy, make friends etc.


From now I must structure my life and do weekly rrevision of my units.


Ive learnt and hopefully life goes on.
 
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