University- It is over.

[Raiders_Premiers]

What should I say to the doctor?

lol.

I ummm, have anxiety and the valium is making uni harder since a) I can't sleep b, it makes me a boring twat hard to make friends, harder to remember things.

And perhaps the most embarrassing I am extremely claustrophobic, its a struggle for me to not faint when catching the train in peak hour, or having shaky hands and breaking into a pool of sweat.

Im thinking of going part time aswell.....

Yeah give him/her that story it's a good one, you're very anxious/stressed etc taking medications, you have insomnia and it's affecting you greatly/not able to do any study all of that. Turn it into a big story.
Obviously if you can try to go to a doctor who isn't too stringent on these issues and will give you a a certificate for a week or two with minimal hassle. Probably try the doctors on campus (if you have them), as they would most likely deal with this all the time.

A lot of people get by this way, so don't think you'd be the only one. I know guys who went through entire degrees like this, just gaining considerations for every exam. At the end of the day, make the effot to do whatever you can not to fail your subjects. You will thank yourself later, guaranteed.

I just finished my Comp Sci degree (assuming i passed my last exam lol...). I didn't necessarily find uni difficult, but I made it difficult for myself. As someone said earlier, high school was a structured and disciplined environment. I always did my work, and even though I rarely studied, i smashed the HSC with close to no effort.

Uni doesn't work like that. My poor attitude to study carried over from high school, and combined with too much free time, booze, and no requirement to actually attend class, my marks nosedived. Mind you, thanks to last minute cram efforts I got through with mediocre to decent marks, and 2 fails in 4 years.

If you got into uni, you're smart enough to pass. Keeping up with your work every week is the most important thing. ie. exactly what I didn't do

Congrats on finishing dude

 

[Cupid Stunt]

If you got into uni, you're smart enough to pass.

Firstly, this is in no way a shot AT you!

This line gets bandied about all the time in pretty much every class I have, every semester. It's garbage. So much so that in one class this semester THREE girls needed to have explained to them how to fill out the unit/teacher feedback forms correctly. That's right, HOW TO COLOUR IN A F'N CIRCLE! Not tick it. Not put an X through it. Colour it in. I have also had a number of students that couldn't speak clear enough English to participate in class discussions or that held the ability to even write it. Uni is first & foremost about money, if you can pay you can go, end of story.

As a sidenote Bob, & I know this wont sound good to read, it may not be your time for Uni yet. I'm somewhat ahead of most students by way of vintage & thats a defining factor over why I can relax more than most of the people I'm doing my degree with. I worked laborious jobs for years, because the physical aspect was easy for me not out of satisfaction. Had I of tried Uni fresh out of high school I'd have screwed up in a big way. But now I'm older I am much more willing to work towards quality of life over dollars. But as was mentioned above by Timbo & chefman, working in the real world in a job you don't necessarily LOVE will give you more than enough drive to study towards getting one you will. Deferring may be an option & is a better mindset compared to saying/feeling you quit.

 

[sarahk]

Yeah give him/her that story it's a good one, you're very anxious/stressed etc taking medications, you have insomnia and it's affecting you greatly/not able to do any study all of that. Turn it into a big story.
Obviously if you can try to go to a doctor who isn't too stringent on these issues and will give you a a certificate for a week or two with minimal hassle. Probably try the doctors on campus (if you have them), as they would most likely deal with this all the time.

A lot of people get by this way, so don't think you'd be the only one. I know guys who went through entire degrees like this, just gaining considerations for every exam. At the end of the day, make the effot to do whatever you can not to fail your subjects. You will thank yourself later, guaranteed.



Congrats on finishing dude

lol rp way to convince the kid to chuck a sickie!

But i agree with what you said. You can always get the dr to say you have food poisoning which is causing you diarrhoea or anything alone the lines of infections/viruses/etc.

One time i slept through a final and after nearly dying of a heart attack when i woke up, i went to the drs and told him i felt really sick and dizzy and that the uni wouldnt accept that as an excuse so he said i had a throat infection or something like that and that i couldnt attend uni for a week Got away with missing the exam!!!

I think its safe to say i WILL NOT miss uni when i finish this sem

p.s rp you nerd, D's and HD's??? You make my last min credit achieving efforts look bad. What are you studying?

 

[simmo1]

If you're relying on chucking sick days and getting doctors certs just to get out of exams that you will fail because you are unprepared, then you're only going to get caught out later on.

That sort of sh*t won't work for you out in the real world.

 

[sarahk]

If you're relying on chucking sick days and getting doctors certs just to get out of exams that you will fail because you are unprepared, then you're only going to get caught out later on.

That sort of sh*t won't work for you out in the real world.

I agree with what you're saying BUT if its a one off its ok. He might just need to do it for this semester until he finds his feet. BUt in all seriousness unis are so incompetent. For the first 4 years of my degree i had never skipped one exam and always suffered with bad timetables. I started to notice that the same students kept skipping the finals every single semester, it wasn't until later on that they told me they handed in certificates and did a supplementary exam. How they got away with it every single semester for at least one exam, for four years straight is BEYOND ME. sigggggggh

 

[chefman21]

As a sidenote Bob, & I know this wont sound good to read, it may not be your time for Uni yet. I'm somewhat ahead of most students by way of vintage & thats a defining factor over why I can relax more than most of the people I'm doing my degree with. I worked laborious jobs for years, because the physical aspect was easy for me not out of satisfaction. Had I of tried Uni fresh out of high school I'd have screwed up in a big way. But now I'm older I am much more willing to work towards quality of life over dollars. But as was mentioned above by Timbo & chefman, working in the real world in a job you don't necessarily LOVE will give you more than enough drive to study towards getting one you will. Deferring may be an option & is a better mindset compared to saying/feeling you quit.

I hate the whole rite of passage thing that high school students are taught at school. You can learn just as much doing a trade. Not so much from an educational perspective but life skills and common sense. You learn discipline to study and how to prioritise. You learn general life skills such as paying bills. At university you get a much better education, but I think when you do a trade you really start putting things they teach you at university into practice.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

lol rp way to convince the kid to chuck a sickie!

But i agree with what you said. You can always get the dr to say you have food poisoning which is causing you diarrhoea or anything alone the lines of infections/viruses/etc.

One time i slept through a final and after nearly dying of a heart attack when i woke up, i went to the drs and told him i felt really sick and dizzy and that the uni wouldnt accept that as an excuse so he said i had a throat infection or something like that and that i couldnt attend uni for a week Got away with missing the exam!!!

I think its safe to say i WILL NOT miss uni when i finish this sem

p.s rp you nerd, D's and HD's??? You make my last min credit achieving efforts look bad. What are you studying?

Yeah, I've gone and got a certificate beforehand a couple of times when I thought there was a chance I might fail, as a kind of insurance. Only ever had to sit a supp once though

Oh and I'm doing a Master of Pharmacy, what about you?

If you're relying on chucking sick days and getting doctors certs just to get out of exams that you will fail because you are unprepared, then you're only going to get caught out later on.

That sort of sh*t won't work for you out in the real world.

This is just to get him through this period. Far, far better option that failing all together.

Chemistry subjects and the like can be quite daunting coming straight out of high school, so he probably just needs time to adjust

 

[sarahk]

Yeah, I've gone and got a certificate beforehand a couple of times when I thought there was a chance I might fail, as a kind of insurance. Only ever had to sit a supp once though

Oh and I'm doing a Master of Pharmacy, what about you?



This is just to get him through this period. Far, far better option that failing all together.

Chemistry subjects and the like can be quite daunting coming straight out of high school, so he probably just needs time to adjust

Accounting. Im trying to figure out which of ours would be more interesting but i think i'll go with mine. D/HD's is quite good for that degree rp, im impressed because from what i hear about Pharmacy it is a major B-itch.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

I am finishing my BA Communications (Information & Media) @ UTS. Hopefully proceeding to the Juris Doctor (graduate-entry Bachelor of Laws) at either University of Sydney, University of New South Wales, or University of Technology Sydney next year.

Definitely regret my BA Communications degree. If I had another time around, I would have selected B International & Global Studies @ USYD, or B International Relations @ ANU.

Both these degrees offer core 'International Studies' units, as well as a designated International Relations major, a flexible second major which I would have used to study Arabic Language (UNSW has a good International Studies degree but doesn't offer Arabic), and the opportunity for a semester-long exchange if the degree is organized well.

Although it is a relatively broad degree and many are critical of it being a more restricted 'Arts' degree, the fact is that I had always planned for postgraduate study, either Juris Doctor (Law), or M Comm (Commerce), or MJourn (Journalism). So a generalist, broad undergraduate degree giving me universal skills in language, exchange experience, and an understanding of politics and international relations would have been a far better choice in retrospect.

Ahh well...20/20 hindsight.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

Accounting. Im trying to figure out which of ours would be more interesting but i think i'll go with mine. D/HD's is quite good for that degree rp, im impressed because from what i hear about Pharmacy it is a major B-itch.

I've seen the kind of stuff you guys learn, you wouldn't be able to pay me enough to do it :lol: Each to their own I guess

Like I said in an earlier posts it's just dependent on what you actually study and the quality of the time you put it. I wasn't too good to start off with but as time went on I improved

 

[simmo1]

This is just to get him through this period. Far, far better option that failing all together.

Chemistry subjects and the like can be quite daunting coming straight out of high school, so he probably just needs time to adjust

I did similar subjects to him, at the same Uni, and I can say that it only gets harder from here. He should be aiming to ensure he understands the coursework, rather than trying to scrape through by exploiting loopholes with doctors certs.

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Ok, well, I have been thinking for a while and I have come to the following conclusions.

I will either

Repeat on a part time basis
Defer for a year and in that year get a full time job.


Im planning to major in chemistry and PCOL.

R_P, are you doing the M Pharm at USYD?

And Simmo, if I were to get a doctors certificate which I wont be doing. I actually do suffer from that condition and it affects me a lot.

Also what units did you do?

 

[chefman21]

Ok, well, I have been thinking for a while and I have come to the following conclusions.

I will either

Repeat on a part time basis
Defer for a year and in that year get a full time job.


Im planning to major in chemistry and PCOL.

R_P, are you doing the M Pharm at USYD?

And Simmo, if I were to get a doctors certificate which I wont be doing. I actually do suffer from that condition and it affects me a lot.

Also what units did you do?

How old are you? Have you thought about doing a working gap year overseas? I don't mean in an English speaking country either. If you can work in a foreign speaking country for a year, ideally doing work in your preferred field, it can really make a resume shine. What's more is you meet some interesting people from all parts of the world who you can network with later, you get to experience a culture other than your own and you get to see some pretty amazing stuff. Don't use it as party time either. It's just a waste then. It's a time to get serious when you do this. The reason I asked about your age is that some countries have youth visa's you can enter on, or working visas for a period of time. If you are looking for a different option it might be worthwhile. If you can do a couple of language courses beforehand then do so. Have a think about it.

 

[ME SO HORNBY!]

Don't worry man. It happens to a lot of people. I found it very difficult to adjust to uni. I was under the impression (for some reason) that Uni would be a walk in the park and easier than the HSC. Boy was I WRONG!

My first semester i failed all four subjects I completed. I struggled with not getting spoon fed like in high school. I'd forget assignments were due because teachers didn't remind me. I'd try and study the night before like in high school and then wonder why I would fail. The list goes on.

So i deferred my second semester and worked at a fruit market for 8 months to think about my future. It was such a bitch of a job and i hated it so much that i couldnt wait to get back to uni, graduate, and work in an office one day. I went back to uni and i got 3 passes and 1 credit in my first semester back. Wasn't great but it was better.

So i'm now in my final semester of Uni (i actually just had an exam this morning), and last semester got 3 HD's and a D. I've been doing an internship for the last 6 months and the company has offered me a full time position. So don't worry theres hope.

p.s. I'm doing a Bachelor of Commerce (majoring in marketing) at University of Wollongong.

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Yeah, im thinking of getting work experience at unilever.


Umm guys, how does scaling work in general, I know lasts semster I got 33.5%raw for chem avg was 44.5 and that raw mark went up 10-12%.


Is it generally the better the group goes the worse you go, you get scaled down and the worse the group goes and you go even worse the better you get scaled?


Do they always try and pass you?

such a shame I got 76% in the MBLG prac component which was worth 33.3% of the final mark but you need a pass in theory as well to pass overall.

Or in bell curve term, if its right skewed and your way to the left do they try and move you to the right or everyone else to the left?

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

Ok, well, I have been thinking for a while and I have come to the following conclusions.

I will either

Repeat on a part time basis
Defer for a year and in that year get a full time job.


Im planning to major in chemistry and PCOL.

R_P, are you doing the M Pharm at USYD?

And Simmo, if I were to get a doctors certificate which I wont be doing. I actually do suffer from that condition and it affects me a lot.

Also what units did you do?

Nah not USYD

Is PCOL Pharmacology?

Btw dude If I were you I would strongly reconsider not getting covered by a med certificate even if it is just for one subject. It's just a bit hard to see the benefits of it now. Failing really should be your very last option.

In saying that, of course it's totally up to you

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Yeah, PCOL is pharmacology.

Im not going to get any med cert. It won't help me at all, I have done the exams and it wont change the mark from a F to P.

So would you have an idea about my previous scaling/bell curve question?