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Penrose Warrior

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Scapegoat as in Cleary dropping him, none of the above average knowldgble fans wanted him dropped after the Cowboys game and most were pissed about it. Most of the people who ring into talkback or post on one tribe etc are ozbash level of Warriors fan.

No one thinks he is a miracle saviour, he will improve our side I don't think many doubt that. The reason he gets so much attention is because there is a readymade improvement to our side sitting in the Vulcans.

I wasn't necessarily referring to people on here, who I find pretty level-headed. I'm probably more meaning people in radioland. The groundswell was against Inu last year and now it's with him.

Would he improve our side? Absolutely. I agree.
 

hitman82

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Inu is a rocks and diamonds player, sort of like Vatuvei.
He's generally been good for three awesome things per match and one ridiculous thing... which isn't a bad ratio for a "flair" player.
I've always been happy to tolerate his oddities in lieu of the talent he brings to the team, personally, and have never wanted him dropped.

He may not save the team but he'd be more effective than a rookie second rower.
 

ozenzud

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Inu is a rocks and diamonds player, sort of like Vatuvei.
He's generally been good for three awesome things per match and one ridiculous thing... which isn't a bad ratio for a "flair" player.
I've always been happy to tolerate his oddities in lieu of the talent he brings to the team, personally, and have never wanted him dropped.

He may not save the team but he'd be more effective than a rookie second rower.

Hitman, I agree. But the issue here is our defence.

Obviously we have a problem in the first 20. I heard Bluey recognise the other day that that is fastest period of the game because everyone is fresh.

So a plan should be to not drop the ball in that first 20, control the pace of the game through your defence and be a little more conservative in your plays. We have the power to break lines later in the game if we are not 16 points down after 15 minutes.

Mateo should be on the bench. He is an attacking player who can come off when the holes appear.

I'd get radical and put Taylor or Mannering in the centres for the first 20 and bring Inu on when the game starts to break up!

I would also leave Rapira on the bench till he gets back his fitness.

Lousi and Matelino have been doing a good job. They are young fit and strong. Ben just about bends the line everytime and doesn't get dominated.

Friend must do a million tackles a game, but they are all round the legs stuff. He can't get them on their backs like the bigger blokes. Heremia was probably coming into his own last year with his defence and dummy half service.....why did he have to go?

Canberra are a big, mobile pack. There attack comes from Campese/Cronin and Duggan. No quite as much pressure on the centres.......

The Fish was pretty ordinary on the weekend. He looked a little startled by the pace of the game. He will be better for the experience.

Konrad I think must be in. I don't think most of the holes were down Benry's side but.
 

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Rpresentative front-rower Brett White will miss the rest of the season as the Canberra Raiders' injury toll continues to mount.
Already without NSW fullback Josh Dugan and workahlic lock forward Shaun Fensom, the Raiders' depth will be tested after the former Blues and Kangaroos enforcer ruptured the Anterior Cruciate Ligament in his left knee in last night's 22-6 loss to the North Queensland Cowboys at Canberra Stadium.
The Raiders will also be without second-rower Joel Thompson for the next two to three weeks with a lateral ankle sprain.
White was consoled by his wife in the dressing sheds after the game while Cowboys lock and former teammate of White's at the Storm Dallas Johnson also provided words of support.
White last played for the Blues in 2010, but his stellar form through the first four rounds of the competition was enough to convince Raiders captain Terry Campese that he was ready for a return to the State of Origin arena.
Raiders prop Dane Tilse described White's loss as ''shattering'' and said it was up to the rest of the forward pack to fill the void.
''Whitey's a great leader for us, with his talk and what he does on the field,'' Tilse said. ''A few of us other front-rowers are going to have to step up to cover him. He was playing the best footy he's played.
''He was making 15-metre charges, so everyone's going to have to fill the void.''
Dugan is expected to return from a shoulder injury in round 10, while Fensom is hopeful of being back in a month from a torn bicep.
Test front-rower David Shillington is rated an outside chance of returning from an oblique injury for Sunday's match with the New Zealand Warriors.
White left the field in a medicab in the 20th minute, with Thompson hobbling off the park soon after.
But it was no excuse for the Raiders' inability to trouble the Cowboys' defence. Canberra was on the verge of being kept scoreless for just the second time at home in its history until Sam Mataora barged over in the 68th minute.
Until then, it was the Johnathan Thurston show, as the world's best halfback continued his transition to five-eighth.
Thurston ran the Cowboys attack with aplomb, delivering a lovely cut-out ball to Brent Tate for the opener within the first 10 minutes. Ashley Graham was the next to benefit from Thurston's trickery as the Cowboys took a 12-0 lead into half-time.
Raiders coach David Furner said his team was made to pay for its poor completion rate and inability to force any pressure on the Cowboys.
''I'm not going to blame injuries,'' Furner said. ''You can be in a game with a slow start, but you can't with a team like the Cowboys. We lost far too much energy in our middle.''
Raiders centre Shaun Berrigan was placed on report for a swinging arm on Gavin Cooper, while Cowboys prop James Tamou also went into the book for a shot on Blake Ferguson.
Cowboys coach Neil Henry applauded the way his side nullified the impact of Campese, who was in brilliant form in last week's 30-16 win against the Wests Tigers.
''I think we did a good job at shutting down Campo,'' Henry said.
''They're a side that can score plenty of points and did last week.''


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-on-raiders-20120402-1w95q.html#ixzz1qvwp2Q6O
 

hitman82

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Hitman, I agree. But the issue here is our defence.

Obviously we have a problem in the first 20. I heard Bluey recognise the other day that that is fastest period of the game because everyone is fresh.

So a plan should be to not drop the ball in that first 20, control the pace of the game through your defence and be a little more conservative in your plays. We have the power to break lines later in the game if we are not 16 points down after 15 minutes.

Mateo should be on the bench. He is an attacking player who can come off when the holes appear.

I'd get radical and put Taylor or Mannering in the centres for the first 20 and bring Inu on when the game starts to break up!

I would also leave Rapira on the bench till he gets back his fitness.

Lousi and Matelino have been doing a good job. They are young fit and strong. Ben just about bends the line everytime and doesn't get dominated.

Friend must do a million tackles a game, but they are all round the legs stuff. He can't get them on their backs like the bigger blokes. Heremia was probably coming into his own last year with his defence and dummy half service.....why did he have to go?

Canberra are a big, mobile pack. There attack comes from Campese/Cronin and Duggan. No quite as much pressure on the centres.......

The Fish was pretty ordinary on the weekend. He looked a little startled by the pace of the game. He will be better for the experience.

Konrad I think must be in. I don't think most of the holes were down Benry's side but.
Our biggest problem seems to be failing to complete sets, and giving away penalties in the first 20 of the match, leading to us having to defend way more than we should.

I absolutely agree Mateo should start from the bench. I'd also question whether Mannering should be moved to lock to provide a more dominant tackler. He seems to be our only forward who can really dominate and slow down the play of the ball consistently.

I like Taylor as a player but still feel he's too small / weak for the lock position. It showed on Sunday when props were absolutely stampeding the guy. Mannering would be far stronger in the middle. Same with Friend - he can tackle like a demon, but he won't slow it down or dominate the ball carrier.

I'd almost be tempted to use Taylor as a starting centre, then move him to the second row when Hurrell is on field - as Hurrell isn't up to 80 minutes yet, in his own words. Or yeah sure, use Inu off the bench as a strike weapon. Imagine having Mateo and Inu come on at the same time - ruthless.

I agree most of the holes were down the other flank - bearing in mind we had that mysterious winger swap, messing up whatever combination Ropati and Vatuvei had from the Titans game. Also we have our worst defender by longshot in Johnson out there. Additionally we have either Brown or Mateo - both of whom are jersey grabbers. Ropati and Vatuvei both make strange defensive decisions at times. That whole flank is plagued with dodgy defenders.
 
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In the wake of that match where he was run down from behind (forget who it was against) there was a big groundswell against him. I remember talkback was lighting up with anti Inu sentiment.

So no, it wasn't bullshit. If he was the scapegoat, that means people wanted him out.

I'm merely pointing out that a lot of people see Inu as a saviour when it wasn't viewed that way last year. I haven't seen him play a game apart from the televised Vulcans match and he didn't do much to show me he's the difference between us winning and losing.

Inu must be in the side fullstop. I had forgiven him for that. He was the best back we had last year.

Tell me pal, bar probably two games last year Inu wasn't our best outside back? If anyone is blind its you if you can't remember that.

Agreed. He was the best and still is.

The only time I can remember Inu copping it was v the Bunnies, when he got run down. Even that was moderated by some reason.

I wasn't a fan of Inu, and I don't think he is the savior. But he clearly should be in the starting 17.

Agreed fully.

no a lot of people see him as a better option than Benry an the bRo

He is the best option

I like this, Taylor did a good job replacing Moon late last season too.

x 2, That would work I like it.
 
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Would love to see Palavi get a run over Ta'ai. Might not be the right time, but he certainly is a more complete player than Ukuma.

Failing that I'd look at Steve Rapira (fitness permitting)
 

vvvrulz

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team was on radio sport.

Inu is on a extended bench.

Extended bench? lmao that means he could still get the chop.
Unbelievable, Ropo or Benry need to literally drop the game for Inu to get a shot.
 

Fast Eddie

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Extended bench? lmao that means he could still get the chop.
Unbelievable, Ropo or Benry need to literally drop the game for Inu to get a shot.


What do you mean 'could'!? Theres no way Inu will play, and if they give him a bench spot then its just a waste of an interchange spot.
 

Juju

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What do you mean 'could'!? Theres no way Inu will play, and if they give him a bench spot then its just a waste of an interchange spot.
Inu will love his week holidaying surfing and going to holiday parks...
 

Meth

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It makes sense to keep the exact same 17 that lost so comprehensively to the Roosters.
 

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