Valentine Holmes

[<StGeorgeDragons>]

Consider this - we are paying Holmes more than the Rorters paid Suaalii, Keary JWH or Manu this year (according to NRL360?
Over 800K for a player that has passing and tackling limitations?????

Yep it’s overs but it had to be done.

nothing much else to say.

 

[Desperate Dragon]

I Hope for you guys he doesn't become home sick...

Think the extra 2 years for 26/27 and the $1.5M plus dollars for that portion will calm any homesickness nerves or concerns.

 

[sammymills]

Consider this - we are paying Holmes more than the Rorters paid Suaalii, Keary JWH or Manu this year (according to NRL360?
Over 800K for a player that has passing and tackling limitations?????

Manu has been on unders for years. Will make it all up with a rugby union sabbatical now.

 

[JubileeJeffro]

Consider this - we are paying Holmes more than the Rorters paid Suaalii, Keary JWH or Manu this year (according to NRL360?
Over 800K for a player that has passing and tackling limitations?????

If you seriously believe that is all they earn at the chooks then good luck to you

 

[TheRev]

o Who is this elusive alternative to Holmes that fans seen to think we could/should have signed?

o There are no prizes for not spending 3mil of our cap next year.. it just makes winning (and recruitment) harder.

o Rly happy now that Lomax is gone, hes a hard worker but just not bought into the culture, now that we have a replacement centre and goalkicker.. I feel a lot better about 2025.

o This is a huge win for us getting some respect again in future recruitments.. I know we got Cook, but it felt like we needed another domino to fall our way.. show future players that we are building here, and they dont need to take a leap of faith by signing with us.

o If Val just ends up a fast goal-kicking winger, thats still a huge win for us, but for right now hes our left centre, and if something goes tits up with Sloan (even an injury), we have a Plan B.

o Also bring some acceleration/speed into our backline (along with Sloan).. Lomax again has his strengths but i think that was his peak this year, Val will get plenty more line breaks than Lomax and will finish a try better also.. not as strong in the air but pretty solid in that space regardless. Also a better kicker imo.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Will wait until "official" before popping any corks as he is in the 10 day cooling-off period (unless waived). The League Scene X account has the Cowboys chipping in 125k for next year only, which, imo, would make this deal very attractrive, but take that with a huge grain of salt.

 

[baggygreen man]

The Dragons got the jump on the field last week, with coach Flanagan making the long trek to Townsville to sit down with his former premiership-winning player at Cronulla.

Credit where due Mr Flanagan.

Jeez I hope we aint paying overs for Val as he is no spring chicken.

 

[baggygreen man]

Looking forward to seeing Val in our iconic RedV.

 

[Macedonian Dragon]

Big signing. He's quick, agile, versatile, can play fullback, wing or centre and he's an amazing goalkicker. Imo top3 goalkicker in the league. His speed will be key for our team as we lack speed badly

 

[56to66]

o Who is this elusive alternative to Holmes that fans seen to think we could/should have signed?

o There are no prizes for not spending 3mil of our cap next year.. it just makes winning (and recruitment) harder.

o Rly happy now that Lomax is gone, hes a hard worker but just not bought into the culture, now that we have a replacement centre and goalkicker.. I feel a lot better about 2025.

o This is a huge win for us getting some respect again in future recruitments.. I know we got Cook, but it felt like we needed another domino to fall our way.. show future players that we are building here, and they dont need to take a leap of faith by signing with us.

o If Val just ends up a fast goal-kicking winger, thats still a huge win for us, but for right now hes our left centre, and if something goes tits up with Sloan (even an injury), we have a Plan B.

o Also bring some acceleration/speed into our backline (along with Sloan).. Lomax again has his strengths but i think that was his peak this year, Val will get plenty more line breaks than Lomax and will finish a try better also.. not as strong in the air but pretty solid in that space regardless. Also a better kicker imo.

A good solid Front Rower would complete the trifecta for Shane Flanagan 2025 recruitment drive.
1.Cook
2.Holmes
3.

 

[moes]

He is better than the 2023 (and prior) version of Zac Lomax, which is what the dragons based their positional change decision around Lomax on

 

[dungay dragon]

Big signing. He's quick, agile, versatile, can play fullback, wing or centre and he's an amazing goalkicker. Imo top3 goalkicker in the league. His speed will be key for our team as we lack speed badly

Noticed Sloan moved into First receiver several times last week , (when Hunt had no success with the running the attack sideways bullshit ) and looked very sharp and his passing and positioning were crisp ..Flanno mite have a thought to move him into the front line in attack in 25...Is a natural footy player. Can play any backline spot

 

[KingFlanno7]

Great signing. We will be watching him score plenty of tries over the next few years

 

[Slippery Morris]

Great signing an the age is perfect as Saints have some good youngsters coming through. When the 3 years are up they will be ready to take over. Val's experience off the field will help these kids develop as he has played at a high level for a long period.

Still nervous until it is officially announced by the Dragons.

 

[saintzrule]

Big signing. He's quick, agile, versatile, can play fullback, wing or centre and he's an amazing goalkicker. Imo top3 goalkicker in the league. His speed will be key for our team as we lack speed badly

As Harry Bath said ' you can't coach speed'

 

[Jersey No 14]

At least players of quality are now looking at the dragons. And signing on.
We are climbing up that ladder. One run at a time.

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

Question is....? Is he better than Lomax?

As a center, Yes, we just need to move on his mate Lawrie...

 

[JubileeJeffro]

Noticed Sloan moved into First receiver several times last week , (when Hunt had no success with the running the attack sideways bullshit ) and looked very sharp and his passing and positioning were crisp ..Flanno mite have a thought to move him into the front line in attack in 25...Is a natural footy player. Can play any backline spot

Yes watching him live against Storm he looked like a great running 6 option.. just needs those extra 5-8 kgs. Doesn’t have a kicking game though

 

[denis preston]

Yes watching him live against Storm he looked like a great running 6 option.. just needs those extra 5-8 kgs. Doesn’t have a kicking game though

Yes all true JJ. I cringe when he makes a break and then puts in a lame kick. He didn’t do it for once and ran around one of the fastest fullbacks in the comp. Wonder if the coaches have got into him about these kicks ?

 

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Well done on a Flanagan for getting his man.

we needed him with the loss of Lomax. Older now and past his absolute best but will have something to contribute. We are paying too much but no other choice at this point.

Better than a kick in the teeth for sure but we are really into mature age players.

With the kids we have coming through and some of the duds these guys are replacing, I think it’s the right fit for now strategically.