Video Ref

[Diesel]

Would the game lose much if the Video Ref was ditched?

Watching games this weekend, you've got to assume there is a quota to go to the VR for sponsorship reasons. So much momentum is lost, especially when it takes over 2 minutes and they're still watching replays of the same angle.

The refs need to rely on their judgment and other on field officials, just like it happens in the lower grades and junior/club footy.

This is a Super League innovation and it needs to go the way of Super League

Should this be replaced? By a captians call or no Video Ref at all?

 

[Rabbits20]

Must have a video ref.

If the video ref see's a try they think is a try and awards it and are confident but it turns out the ball was not grounded properly and there was a little knock on, can you handle the bad decision when it's your team playing Diesel?

 

[Rabbits20]

Technology is obviously very improved compared to years ago and imo we can't go backwards. There is no way at all the NRL would stop having the video ref.

 

[LatK7]

Removing the video ref is a stupid idea.

 

[Diesel]

It's obvious to many that the current system isn't workimh, it kills the momentum of the game with the stops.

The u20's were trialling the captains call, what was the feedback about it?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

It has created a culture of questioning ref decision, along with slow motion replays and sensationalised commentary. Coaches also look for excuses when the game is ultra professional. There was a time when a ref made a mistake and people threw their hands in the air but got on with it because it was accepted that shit happens. Now people expect everything to be spot on, which is impossible. I wouldn't care if they got rid of it because referee errors are part of the game with it or without but it won't happen because fans, coaches and commentators would bitch even more than they do now. The reality of the NRL is fans et al will keep screaming blue murder about refs, expecting them to reach perfection, when there's no chance of them being satisfied no matter what technology is used and how much it infiltrates every aspect of the game. Just another reason to appreciate levels of the game where there is no video ref.

 

[mepelthwack]

Aaron Woods was at good 2 inches short tonight and the ref sent it upstairs giving his opinion as try.

People here whining as it that the Tigers won how would of the above went down without the video ref to rightly reverse the refs decision?

Embrace technology people!

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Aaron Woods was at good 2 inches short tonight and the ref sent it upstairs giving his opinion as try.

People here whining as it that the Tigers won how would of the above went down without the video ref to rightly reverse the refs decision?

Embrace technology people!

It was Gavin Badger mind you.

 

[oikee]

How,, faking how can Archer be happy with the process, happy with refs sending every faking decision to the videoman.
I was at the Broncos game and a try right in front of the home fans was sent to the video ref.
Everyone at the corner could see it was a try, but still we had to go through the anger of 10 looks by the video man, lose all the excitement and joy of a try being scored, only to agonise over weather or not the video man would overturn the try.

I can see why fans are turning away, tuning out and have had enough.

The Manly Storm game.
Maxwell sent two of the Storm tries to the videoman. One try he awarded a try, yet the video man looked at it 10 times to try to find a way to over-rule the try.

Then another contest in the air was not even looked at.
Maxwell should be accountable for his actions of sending away teams tries to the video ref, but quickly ruling home team tries without even looking at obstruction for them.
As Gus would say, dont get me started on obstruction.

The refs and video refs are ruining the game, spoiling the contest, driving fans insane, and turning fans off.
The 50/50 call of the refs is also a joke. That is black/white right their, making a 50/50 call only to send it to the video man so he gets another 50/50 shot at over-turning the call.

Somebody also needs to tell Archer they have invented a super-zoom lens , it is being used in the superleague.
This camera zooms right into the try area.

Our refs have tunnel vision. They even tried to import 10 refs. That is how far we have drifted from a simple solution and how far away Archer is from fixing the problem.
They refuse to use the Captains challenge which would fix nearly all these problems.

Now dinosaur Gus wants even more money from the NRL for his club.
His complaint is that the NRL is spending more money to run the game.
What Gus did not say was that all the clubs are getting nearly double the grant they received a few year ago.
So my question, why are clubs now spending double.
You could give the clubs all the money, they would still spend it and also be in debt.

Gus is trying to use dinosaur theories to back his dinosaur mates and ways.
The code is trying to move on from the old ways and days Gus, not go back to them.

 

[innsaneink]

It has created a culture of questioning ref decision, along with slow motion replays and sensationalised commentary. Coaches also look for excuses when the game is ultra professional. There was a time when a ref made a mistake and people threw their hands in the air but got on with it because it was accepted that shit happens. Now people expect everything to be spot on, which is impossible. I wouldn't care if they got rid of it because referee errors are part of the game with it or without but it won't happen because fans, coaches and commentators would bitch even more than they do now. The reality of the NRL is fans et al will keep screaming blue murder about refs, expecting them to reach perfection, when there's no chance of them being satisfied no matter what technology is used and how much it infiltrates every aspect of the game. Just another reason to appreciate levels of the game where there is no video ref.

Good post - agreed.

 

[Canard]

ECT nailed it.

A necessary evil. For example both Cowboys tries that were referred last night were called no tries.

 

[--Storm--]

Blunder after blunder would occur, get rid of the ref saying calling try/no try before going up stairs though, not only do they have no idea most of the time but it also influences the video ref.

 

[Cloudsurfer]

Blunder after blunder would occur, get rid of the ref saying calling try/no try before going up stairs though, not only do they have no idea most of the time but it also influences the video ref.

Agree. We all agree a lot of tries are unambiguous, obviously a try and no one has an issue with the Ref calling that.
Where it's not cut & dried why can't the Ref just say I have a touchdown; Can you please check the grounding/ obstruction/ knock on/ contest for the ball/ whatever else he saw. Seen them do this on occasion & it works...if not a try play resumes...

With Tonumaipea's try, he touched down - no dispute with that, Ref: can you check the contest for the ball? Or check for a knock-on?
Anything other than No try - To say no try if a touchdown has occurred is ridiculous

To not check is a whole other story :sarcasm:

 

[taste2taste]

Broncos v warriors , they went to the video ref for a put down that not only was the ball dropped but it was over the dead ball line, a total waste of 2 minutes.

In the 79th minutes the broncos were awarded a try off a blantent knock on. Unless I missed something?

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

The problem for me is the process, not the video ref itself. Referee guesses, sends it to another ref who either guesses again or just refuses to change the decision no matter how obvious it is because he doesn't want to take responsibility. Much easier to pass the buck.

For me the ref needs to make an on field decision and then he be the one who looks at the video and makes a decision based on that. 21 errors should never have you in the game for as long as the Warriors were so I suppose that's something to work on.

 

[Snappy]

Just get rid of the on-field ref having to make a call a Try or No Try, when they send it up. Simple.

 

[unforgiven]

The answer is simple, there needs to be a simplified captains challenge. Can only be used in try scoring situations.

Try is scored and the ref makes his decision, captain has 10 secs to call for a challenge. If the challenge is successful then there is no consequence or the challenging team. If incorrect the challenging team loses a challenge or for something more detrimental an interchange.

 

[insert.pause]

Just get rid of the on-field ref having to make a call a Try or No Try, when they send it up. Simple.

The fact they are checking with the video ref instead of awarding it means they don't know if it's a try, it was all brought in to get rid of benefit of the doubt, it's a stupid system.

 

[fourplay]

I would like to see the refs make all the decisions, with each team having one or two "captains call" per half.

 

[insert.pause]

I would like to see the refs make all the decisions, with each team having one or two "captains call" per half.

Doesn't stop the broadcasters from replaying the try's, you think whinging is bad now, people wouldn't cop it.