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Vs Roosters Rd 15

ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Blind touchie helped there, and that was his second huge forward pass down that same edge.

Can't blame Lolohea though, he was just coming right at fullback and got thrust in.

Yeah it was a bit forward, forward galore tonight. I can understand hitting the A line but you gotta get it right. Still, he almost set up one..

I was hoping he wouldve taken his opportunity with 2 hands but in the end it looked like, as you said, just got thrust in their and seemed rusty in his old usual possie
 
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JJ

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Cripple fight - two shit teams, Roosters more shit... by God Newcastle are awful
 

jaseg

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Honestly.. Lolohea didn't look good. He's far from alone though - and actually had an excuse (of sorts) today. Our attack was all over the place.

His defending in the line was laughable, 2 bad forward passes as well.. I'm not sure ball playing at the front of the play really suits him. Always looks much better receiving the ball out the back of the play, 2nd or 3rd receiver with room. He looked the same when moved there at the end of the Knights game.

It's irritating me (though it's ultimately a good thing RE competition) because that could solve a lot of problems (certainly this season)... when Hingano eventually gets (and takes) his chance and RTS comes back next year we're going to have a logjam from 1-7... someone drops out - will it be Manu? Can't drop Fus, or Ayshford, Johnson or Kata on form, RTS is safe, Lolo needs a spot somewhere - leaving Hingano, Lolohea & Vatuvei with one wing and one half spot open. Great to have competition, but who loses out? Assuming TL is either gone or a dummy half option by then.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Honestly.. Lolohea didn't look good. He's far from alone though - and actually had an excuse (of sorts) today. Our attack was all over the place.

His defending in the line was laughable, 2 bad forward passes as well.. I'm not sure ball playing at the front of the play really suits him. Always looks much better receiving the ball out the back of the play, 2nd or 3rd receiver with room. He looked the same when moved there at the end of the Knights game.

It's irritating me (though it's ultimately a good thing RE competition) because that could solve a lot of problems (certainly this season)... when Hingano eventually gets (and takes) his chance and RTS comes back next year we're going to have a logjam from 1-7... someone drops out - will it be Manu? Can't drop Fus, or Ayshford, Johnson or Kata on form, RTS is safe, Lolo needs a spot somewhere - leaving Hingano, Lolohea & Vatuvei with one wing and one half spot open. Great to have competition, but who loses out? Assuming TL is either gone or a dummy half option by then.

Well he did make a bad pass from fullback as the 2nd receiver to Ayshford which resulted in a turnover so his ball playing at the back is still a work in progress. Youre right though he didn't have too good of a game and even when he returned to the halves he was rusty.

Anyway, I am now looking at your constant assurance of Hingano as something that needs to happen. I'd like to see it but it can't happen now because, we're now winning and with Robson around Cappys more likely to bring him up. If we had nothing to lose then we might see him. I'd like to see him in there personally despite never seeing him really play.
 

jaseg

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Yeah of course.. Tui's game in general needs work - he's better out the back but hardly perfect (only 21 after all). Frankly it's amazing at that age that he's just about (not quite but nearly!) taken over as our most dangerous threat. It'd be a waste to stick him on the wing next year, but if there's a fullback and two halves better suited I'd rather have him in the side somewhere than not. I'd laugh, though, if it gets to the point of using $850k/yr RTS on the wing to accommodate a Lolohea-Hingano-Johnson-Luke spine (highly unlikely, Cappy doesn't have the balls to pull that one for starters, even if it did become our best option at some point).

Put it this way RE Hingano.. last year (when he played roughly half the year in 20s) he was in a pretty clear top 3 in that competition for halves with Ashley Taylor and Te Maire Martin. He's about a year and a half younger than Martin and 2 years younger than Taylor. Cleary looked very promising last year in his also limited 20s games, he's only 6 or so months younger than Ata. And Ata has gone up a level this year, looks as or perhaps more ready than any of those guys when they made debuts, all of whom have impressed in first grade. Cleary gets wraps because he's a insanely good Aussie junior playing for an Aussie team (who also happen to be the team a certain prominent commentator works for)... he deserves that high rating - but I rate Hingano every bit as highly - I'd like to say maybe slightly better, but I'm pretty sure that's just bias talking, lol.

All that being said he's still going to be a rookie and go up and down a fair bit, as every rookie does. One of the reasons he should have at least been on the bench in the last couple of games - to blood him a little at a time, if not throwing him in earlier in the year (which we should have). We could have used some of his ability to run a basic attacking play tonight tbh.. the match was about reserve grade standard :lol:

Not sure about Robson getting picked over him though - Hingano was the guy placed on notice to cover Johnson today.
 

Dr Crane

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Honestly...we got away with that one. I was in the pub cheering, but SHIT I've only just unclenched.

Tui needs to stay at fullback. I think we could sell RTS and it wouldn't be a disaster. SJ needs a settler with him, so as always the Warriors need a 6.

Luke and Jazz should be fighting for hooker, and Jazz is winning - I hate Cappy can't see this.

Forwards just need to front up. They're good enough, they're just lazy as hell.
 

JJ

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Could that be our last win of the year?

Doubt it as we have a good draw...

But, longer term it would IMO be better if we didn't win too many - we're a poor team, that's poorly coached...

Something needs to change, no doubt making the 8 will be hailed as a success, and nothing will change
 

vvvrulz

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Honestly...we got away with that one.

Totally agree, but by some miracle we're only two points behind both of last years grand finalists.
Couldn't ask for a better draw and a better ladder position given we've only put in 2-3 truly impressive performances this year.

Reality is if we play a title contender at full strength they'll put 40 on us without breaking a sweat
 

Blair

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...Great run from Luke.

That was a great break up the centre of the park, what you'd expect from a little dummy-half seeing a gap.

However, our players were all standing flat-footed and just watched him go.

The same old worrying stuff, even if we're now winning games.
 

JJ

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That was a great break up the centre of the park, what you'd expect from a little dummy-half seeing a gap.

However, our players were all standing flat-footed and just watched him go.

The same old worrying stuff, even if we're now winning games.

Yep, agreed...

and while we're winning games, it should be noted who we've beaten, Newcastle who at best are a mediocre reserve grade team, the Roosters who have been very poor and are further weakened by injury and origin commitments and Brisbane at Origin team

The competition is not even at all this year - the top 4 teams are light years ahead of the rest...
 

Auckland4ever

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Very ugly to watch from an attacking standpoint, but I think some of that is down to the spoiling style of play from the Roosters. I hate this intentionally giving away penalties bulls*it - it never receives the action it deserves from the officials. Despite how poor we were in attack, it was good to see us actually grind out a win, regardless of who it was against.
 

Penrose Warrior

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Very ugly to watch from an attacking standpoint, but I think some of that is down to the spoiling style of play from the Roosters. I hate this intentionally giving away penalties bulls*it - it never receives the action it deserves from the officials. Despite how poor we were in attack, it was good to see us actually grind out a win, regardless of who it was against.

Agreed on the spoiling part. The spineless referees went a long way to ruining that game yesterday. Ray Charles could've seen that the Roosters went into that game with the intent to completely slow it down and lay all over us, and yet they kept getting penalised and penalised, with Maxwell trying to pretend he's hard, but he was soft as butter.
 

Penrose Warrior

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Anyway, a lot of us believe the last 3 wins were catching fish in a barrel, but if you look at the draw going ahead I can't see any others that will be.
 

ZEROMISSTACKLES

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Agreed on the spoiling part. The spineless referees went a long way to ruining that game yesterday. Ray Charles could've seen that the Roosters went into that game with the intent to completely slow it down and lay all over us, and yet they kept getting penalised and penalised, with Maxwell trying to pretend he's hard, but he was soft as butter.
I wonder if he catches the plane back with the Roosters or do the NRL pay for him to come on a seperate plane..that could have something to do with him not binning anyone.

Last thing Maxwell wants is to walk on to the plane with the Roosters saying "HERE HE IS!".
 
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ozbash

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NRL | v SYDNEY ROOSTERS, MOUNT SMART STADIUM | WON 12-10

Penalties | Vodafone Warriors 10, Sydney Roosters 3.

Completions | Vodafone Warriors 32/42 (76%), Sydney Roosters 20/31 (65%).

Total runs | Vodafone Warriors 206, Sydney Roosters 156.

Metres gained | Vodafone Warriors 1817, Sydney Roosters 1478.

Line breaks | Vodafone Warriors 5, Sydney Roosters 4.

Tackle breaks | Vodafone Warriors 33, Sydney Roosters 28.

Kicks (kicking metres) | Vodafone Warriors 17 (407), Sydney Roosters 17 (432).

Tackles Made | Vodafone Warriors 276, Sydney Roosters 357.

Missed tackles | Vodafone Warriors 28, Sydney Roosters 33.

Offloads | Vodafone Warriors 21, Sydney Roosters 17.

Errors | Vodafone Warriors 10, Sydney Roosters 10.

Runs | Vodafone Warriors: Ken Maumalo 19, Ben Matulino 16, Issac Luke 16, Bodene Thompson 16, David Fusitu’a 15, Blake Ayshford 15, Albert Vete 14, Simon Mannering 14, Ryan Hoffman 12, Shaun Johnson 12, Solomone Kata 11, Tuimoala Lolohea 11. Sydney Roosters: Daniel Tupou 16, Joseph Manu 14, Shaun Kenny-Dowall 12, Ryan Matterson 12, Kane Evans 12, Latrell Mitchell 11, Sam Moa 10, Jackson Hastings 10.

Metres gained | Vodafone Warriors: Ken Maumalo 183, David Fusitu’a 159, Blake Ayshford 143, Albert Vete 138, Ben Matulino 131, Ryan Hoffman 127, Solomone Kata 118, Issac Luke 114, Simon Mannering 108, Bodene Thompson 105. Sydney Roosters: Shaun Kenny-Dowall 173, Kane Evans 138, Daniel Tupou 134, Joseph Manu 129, Ryan Matterson 112, Isaac Liu 110, Sam Moa 104.

Tackle breaks | Vodafone Warriors: Shaun Johnson 9, Ken Maumalo 5, Toafofoa Sipley 4, Issac Luke 3, Solomone Kata 3, Tuimoala Lolohea 3. Sydney Roosters: Shaun Kenny-Dowall 8, Latrell Mitchell 4, Isaac Liu 4.

Off loads | Vodafone Warriors: Albert Vete 4, Tuimoala Lolohea 3, Issac Luke 3, Ryan Hoffman 3. Sydney Roosters: Shaun Kenny-Dowall 3, Ryan Matterson 3, Jared Waerea-Hargreaves 3.

Tackles made | Vodafone Warriors: Simon Mannering 53, Bodene Thompson 39, Ben Matulino 30, Issac Luke 24, Ryan Hoffman 21, Sam Lisone 20. Sydney Roosters: Jake Friend 50, Sio Siua Taukeiaho 46, Jackson Hastings 35, Jared Waerea-Hargreaves 31, Mitchell Aubusson 30, Dylan Napa 24, Ryan Matterson 22, Sam Moa 22.

Missed tackles | Vodafone Warriors: Sam Lisone, Nathaniel Roache 0, David Fusitu’a 0. Sydney Roosters: Sio Siua Taukeiaho 0, Sam Moa 0, Dale Copley 0, Joseph Manu 0, Isaac Liu 0.

Supports | Vodafone Warriors: Blake Ayshford 6, Solomone Kata 6, Nathaniel Roache 5, David Fusitu’a 5. Sydney Roosters: Mitchell Aubussion 7, Jared Waerea-Hargreaves 6, Dale Copley 6.

Decoys | Vodafone Warriors: Simon Mannering 10, Ben Matulino 8, Ryan Hoffman 7, Bodene Thompson 6. Sydney Roosters: Sio Siua Taukeiaho 4.
 
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