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Vs St George, Sydney Cricket Ground 4.00pm Sunday 20th March

Jack_Napier

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I hope someone who knows how to put up a video of the incident does because you will find contact was well and truly above the knee. You're just angry at the result yesterday. If that tackle happened to one of our players I wouldn't say a thing as there was nothing illegal about it.

I really think you need to piut this loss out of your mind R20. You way to over emotional about every aspect of the game. I mean Carter actually hit someone below the knee in a cannonball and Auva'a looked to twist someone's neck and all your doing is crucifying JDB for a perfectly legal tackle. Just relax mate, it was just one of those games.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree regarding the JDB tackle and your clearly not going to change your mind due to it being GI/Souths player involved.
 

DiegoNT

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I have to disagree, GI was standing in the tackle with two guys holding him up and De Belin coming in from behind targeting the legs.

I don't blame Maxwell for the lost but some of the calls in the end played a part in the end result.

You can't win wet weather football with a penalty count of 17 to 9 I think it was in the end and a few lucky calls went the Dragons during that second half that helped

You see heaps of similar tackles every game, there were definitely a few closer to the knees done by souths players. Clark in particular does a handful of similar tackles every game. What made the de belin hit different was 1. He hit with a lot more force then usual, and 2. Because of the conditions and the state of the pitch I'd say inglis foot got stuck in the mud, so with his foot stuck in place and de belin hitting him hard in the upper thigh, it caused a lot of pressure on the knee causing injury. It was unfortunate but not illegal
 

Rabbits20

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I hope someone who knows how to put up a video of the incident does because you will find contact was well and truly above the knee. You're just angry at the result yesterday. If that tackle happened to one of our players I wouldn't say a thing as there was nothing illegal about it.

I really think you need to piut this loss out of your mind R20. You way to over emotional about every aspect of the game. I mean Carter actually hit someone below the knee in a cannonball and Auva'a looked to twist someone's neck and all your doing is crucifying JDB for a perfectly legal tackle. Just relax mate, it was just one of those games.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree regarding the JDB tackle and your clearly not going to change your mind due to it being GI/Souths player involved.

Players are at Souths players necks every second week and don't get charged. You watch the Dogs this week get away with it.

I guess I'm just sick of the inconsistency.

I agree Carter deserves punishment for that. He's got a grade 2. What he did was stupid and dangerous.

I can take a fair loss, but that wasn't fair.

If the Dogs beat Souths fair and square I'll say well they were too good.

If you guys beat us in Round 6 fair and square I'll say well played too good.
 

Exsilium

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Look, the rule isn't just about the positioning of the tackler, JDB hit him just below the hip bone and thigh area. This was exaggerated by the fact that at the point of impact Greg is jolted sideways with his leg planted on the ground.

There was nothing wrong with the tackle as it was within the rules. The only slim hope that tackle had of getting a penalty was if the referee deemed the contact "unnecessary" or with "unnecessary force" which, both referees deemed was not the case. Notice how you're own team barely reacted?

It was certainly not a cannon ball as there was no diving at the legs either. I am 100% certain if Inglis isn't buckled in that hit then no one says anything.

I watched the game again last night so I could be sure, Carter, Clarke and Turner were guilty of a similar tackle.

As for the onside/offside. I've noticed the referees walked teams onside all weekend. They call them back and start walking as the ball is played. Bit iffy but it started creeping into the finals last year, notably during the grand final.

R20, I think you're a great fan of the mighty Rabbitohs and it's good to see the passion but i have to disagree with your views this time around. Not sure if you do this already but watch other teams play and you'll see countless rub and things being missed. It's always harder when you're at the game and you're in the burrow, which I've been in before, cause the emotion runs high!

Tough few games ahead.
 
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Rabbits20

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Look, the rule isn't just about the positioning of the tackler, JDB hit him just below the hip bone and thigh area. This was exaggerated by the fact that at the point of impact Greg is jolted sideways with his leg planted on the ground.

There was nothing wrong with the tackle as it was within the rules. The only slim hope that tackle had of getting a penalty was if the referee deemed the contact "unnecessary" or with "unnecessary force" which, both referees deemed was not the case. Notice how you're own team barely reacted?

It was certainly not a cannon ball as there was no diving at the legs either. I am 100% certain if Inglis isn't buckled in that hit then no one says anything.

I watched the game again last night so I could be sure, Carter, Clarke and Turner were guilty of a similar tackle.

As for the onside/offside. I've noticed the referees walked teams onside all weekend. They call them back and start walking as the ball is played. Bit iffy but it started creeping into the finals last year, notably during the grand final.

R20, I think you're a great fan of the mighty Rabbitohs and it's good to see the passion but i have to disagree with your views this time around. Not sure if you do this already but watch other teams play and you'll see countless rub and things being missed. It's always harder when you're at the game and you're in the burrow, which I've been in before, cause the emotion runs high!

Tough few games ahead.


Fair enough.

Your views are welcome in our forum.
 

KiamaSaint

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They happen to be the views of your coach as well, who was also at the game. That is what makes Maguire a great coach, no piss poor excuses.
 

alien

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Now I have no issue with the tackle on Inglis as JDB hit the hip area but GI's knees can't have anything left in them. He'll end up like Dean Young and be in pain all the time, if he isn't already.

he seems to have problems every game now. i haven't read anyone say it but i think it's possible that he'll retire after this season..
 

Rabbits20

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They happen to be the views of your coach as well, who was also at the game. That is what makes Maguire a great coach, no piss poor excuses.

Behind closed doors Madge may be speaking up. You wouldn't know.

Madge is all class at press conferences. He does things behind closed doors.

I re watched the game back and what De Belin did wasn't necessary.

He hit hard at the thigh and 1 of his hands went down to GI's knee and connected. I watched it back a few times.

Anyway it's done now and all teams will keep targeting GI's knee.
 

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Look, the rule isn't just about the positioning of the tackler, JDB hit him just below the hip bone and thigh area. This was exaggerated by the fact that at the point of impact Greg is jolted sideways with his leg planted on the ground.

There was nothing wrong with the tackle as it was within the rules. The only slim hope that tackle had of getting a penalty was if the referee deemed the contact "unnecessary" or with "unnecessary force" which, both referees deemed was not the case. Notice how you're own team barely reacted?

It was certainly not a cannon ball as there was no diving at the legs either. I am 100% certain if Inglis isn't buckled in that hit then no one says anything.

I watched the game again last night so I could be sure, Carter, Clarke and Turner were guilty of a similar tackle.

As for the onside/offside. I've noticed the referees walked teams onside all weekend. They call them back and start walking as the ball is played. Bit iffy but it started creeping into the finals last year, notably during the grand final.

R20, I think you're a great fan of the mighty Rabbitohs and it's good to see the passion but i have to disagree with your views this time around. Not sure if you do this already but watch other teams play and you'll see countless rub and things being missed. It's always harder when you're at the game and you're in the burrow, which I've been in before, cause the emotion runs high!

Tough few games ahead.


Souths draw is tough the next 5 weeks.

I re watched the game and watching it back the ref was as bad as he was at the ground.

Anyway it's done now.
 

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https://youtu.be/DSjl1e0tol8?t=1226

Here's the vid and also a slow motion replay of it. JDB hit his hip and slid down. There was no evidence of twisting of the knee either. I thought you were a 'truth teller' R20?

The thigh and slid down to the knee with 1 of his hands which aggravated GI's knee.


Dugan was laughing at Sam when he was down. The first time was as he knocked on and it was banter. At this stage Dugan didn't know he was hurt.

The next 2 times shortly after were uncalled for. Especially the third time he was laughing at Sam who was writhing in pain. It is just not on.

Round 11 ANZ Stadium us Souths members will await Dugan.
 
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alien

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https://youtu.be/DSjl1e0tol8?t=1226

Here's the vid and also a slow motion replay of it. JDB hit his hip and slid down. There was no evidence of twisting of the knee either. I thought you were a 'truth teller' R20?

it was above the knees but rabs says at 21:17 that you can still get penalized if it's above the knees if the tackle is dangerous or forceful, which i didn't think was the case
 

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I think he will play on.

Teams keep targeting his knee every week.

well yeah his contract with souths does go until the end of next season, but if his knee doesn't improve (and it doesn't sound or look like it will) then i think that is it mate. i know he is only turning 30 next year, but he has been playing first grade since he was 18, and he has played a lot of rep games too. it is good to see him still trying so hard and playing well most of the time though
 

Jubileeboy

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Sorry Nape, Rsag85 and myself are correct.

De Belin twisted GI's knee. He should be suspended De Belin. He deliberately went in there to twist GI's knee.

If it happened to a Roosters player I would say to you the player who did it needs to be suspended.

The Dogs will employ the same tactic this week many times.


I'm sure you can agree with the rest of my post.

Bullshit re De Belin. The only other dummy that agrees with you is Tallis.
Carter should have been given 10 in the bin.
Your ball handling and discipline ensured your team ran 2nd.
1nglis was woeful.
 

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he seems to have problems every game now. i haven't read anyone say it but i think it's possible that he'll retire after this season..

If you're anything like me you're holding you're breath every time GI runs the ball into traffic.

I'm half expecting a serious injury every time he does.

He has chronic problems in the knees & hips so he will be targeted in both of these areas. RL is not a sport anymore;it's win at all costs.

GI is a superman so he'll plug on & continue playing well but he could be rubbed out for a very long time at any tick of the clock---his knee is very bad.

I'll continue to hold my breath!!!!
 
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Rabbits20

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Bullshit re De Belin. The only other dummy that agrees with you is Tallis.
Carter should have been given 10 in the bin.
Your ball handling and discipline ensured your team ran 2nd.
1nglis was woeful.

That's as Tallis is right and knows his stuff. Tallis ain't a dummy.

He's played the game and he knows these things when he sees them.

Souths made 9 errors which isn't too bad.

Half those penalties shouldn't have been penalties. I re watched the game and Maxwell was on yours side that's for sure.


GI was actually very very good considering his knee. He was not woeful.

What was woeful was Dugan did. The first time he laughed at Sam was fair enough as he didn't know he was injured and he was giving some back to Sam.

The second time was not called for.

The third time when Sam was writhing in pain Dugan looked down and laughed at him. Now that is a dog act.

What Andrew Webster wrote in the paper is correct too. He sees the truth in this one. I know you do too but won't admit it.


It's funny isn't it how the experts Tallis and Webster see what I saw. They saw truth like I did and aren't sugar coating it. They are neutrals too.


By the way Carter didn't deserve 10 in the bin. He's going to get suspended and rightly so. That Taupau does much worse and Graham plus Klemmer with his dangerous high shots. They don't get sin binned either. That Napa gets away with a lot he never gets sin binned and rarely gets suspended. I could write you a novel.

I've seen much worse than that which hasn't been sin binned.

In Round 11 I hope Souths get all the calls and win. Then we will see how you like it. I know you would be fuming even if you don't admit it.
 
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Rabbits20

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If you're anything like me you're holding you're breath every time GI runs the ball into traffic.

I'm half expecting a serious injury every time he does.

He has chronic problems in the knees & hips so he will be targeted in both of these areas. RL is not a sport anymore;it's win at all costs.

GI is a superman so he'll plug on & continue playing well but he could be rubbed out for a very long time at any tick of the clock---his knee is very bad.

I'll continue to hold my breath!!!!

I worry too Doyen.

Yeah he says the knee is allright with rest but any match he could do more damage and miss a few months.

He is playing at 25-30percent fitness and he's still magnificent.

All teams are targeting his knee too on purpose.
 

Exsilium

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Look, Greg Inglis may play on next season but if his knee isn't 100% he will go to the centres where he can do less mileage.

He is a magnificent player but with his size, speed and footwork it was always going to a case of "how long" before he started getting damage. Knees are medically speaking one of the hardest parts of the human body to repair. The force required to do damage in the first place is often jaw dropping.

His running style also places a lot of additional load on his knees. He runs very upright with an explosive launch of the left or right leg and that means he's planted, any knock, movement of sudden change of direction can lead to a displasure or compaction of the cartlidge and that's irreversible in most cases.

Anyway we will know come September
 

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