WA BEARS

[Kurt Angle]

I know you can’t stand Vlandys but your quantum leaping here is highly amusing. At least PR will love you.

I have a lot of respect for V'Landys, and will assert he has done a lot of good for RL

But he does have one flaw and it's been known since his days in racing prior to joining the NRL. That flaw has come to the fore here

I am extremely critical of it because proper expansion is the last piece of the puzzle to making RL the undisputed number 1 game here

He is doing more harm than good by going public with this

 

[Wb1234]

nope, plan a was the bid, Plan B is something that is about to be rejected. Plan C? Anyones guess!

Came here for the meltdown

Wasn’t let down

 

[Vlad59]

I still can’t believe that 5 days ago we all thought the Western Bears were going to be formally announced today …

A week is a long time in Rugba Leeg …

It’s a hoot!

 

[Perth Red]

Came here for the meltdown

Wasn’t let down

facts my dear boy, facts. Straight from the horses mouth. Consider yourself privileged, I'm giving you some insider info not many know.

 

[Wb1234]

I have a lot of respect for V'Landys, and will assert he has done a lot of good for RL

But he does have one flaw and it's been known since his days in racing prior to joining the NRL. That flaw has come to the fore here

I am extremely critical of it because proper expansion is the last piece of the puzzle to making RL the undisputed number 1 game here

He is doing more harm than good by going public with this

No he isn’t

This is how he gets the existing clubs to accept expansion when no other nrl boss has managed it

And it’s better it doesn’t come from the arlc profits

He’s doing his job of what’s best for rugby league as a whole

Cummins didn’t listen when told to pony up some money and he’s lucky to get another chance

 

[Matt_CBY]

unless the consortium find some money or the NRL decide they will invest the $50mill themselves thats needed both Bears fans and WA fans are going to be bitterly dissapointed. The WA govt will not own or have any share in ownership of a sports club, I can guarantee you that.

If Vlandys is stupid enough to walk away from $480mill investment in the game in WA for the sake of a $20mill license fee will be interesting to see, if he does I think we can all agree he's a moron.

We all agree you’re a moron

 

[Wb1234]

facts my dear boy, facts. Straight from the horses mouth.

Beattie told him twice he had to pay a significant license fee and he still opted to pay zero

Couldn’t raise any money from Perth investors and said no to money from investors associated with the bears

 

[Wb1234]

Perth Bears puzzled by the NRL’s decision to stop negotiations

The Perth Bears say they were “blindsided,” expecting the NRL to announce their entry into the competition, only to read in the newspaper that the deal had fallen through. Peter Cumins, Chair of the Perth Bears consortium, spoke to 6PR Breakfast hosts Millsy and Karl about what went wrong...

www.6pr.com.au

Couldn’t even get the teams name right

 

[Matt_CBY]

Dont be silly! This smacks of Western Reds travel cost imposition all over again.

It really doesn’t.

 

[Kurt Angle]

No he isn’t

This is how he gets the existing clubs to accept expansion when no other nrl boss has managed it

And it’s better it doesn’t come from the arlc profits

Profits are usually exchanged for increased equity during growth.

It's balance sheet 101

He’s doing his job of what’s best for rugby league as a whole

I agree, he has been a net benefit as a whole for the NRL

But he has irreversibly harmed the WA bid

Cummins didn’t listen when told to pony up some money and he’s lucky to get another chance

V'Landys didn't listen to the objection either, and he clearly didn't work to negotiate

 

[Matt_CBY]

The Bears had not stumped up for a licence fee given an estimated $26 million in start-up costs and what Cumins felt was between $10 million and $20 million in value being created for the NRL by establishing a West Australian team.

Ohhh the NRL need the WA team more than WA need the NRL. I got you now.

This is the attitude that screwed over the consortium.

 

[Perth Red]

It really doesn’t.

saddling the club with an unreasonable demand that cripples its financial position from day 1? Yeh doesnt sound the same at all lol

 

[Wb1234]

Profits are usually exchanged for increased equity during growth.

It's balance sheet 101


I agree, he has been a net benefit as a whole for the NRL

But he has irreversibly harmed the WA bid


V'Landys didn't listen to the objection either, and he clearly didn't work to negotiate

Without pvl there would be no expansion

He’s doing no damage to the Perth bid it’s all self inflicted because Cummins is an idiot

 

[Matt_CBY]

I can tell you now that the NRL's plan B is about to be formerly rejected.

Hahahahahahah

 

[Perth Red]

Without pvl there would be no expansion

He’s doing no damage to the Perth bid it’s all self inflicted because Cummins is an idiot

couldnt even get the name right

 

[Matt_CBY]

Perth Bears puzzled by the NRL’s decision to stop negotiations

The Perth Bears say they were “blindsided,” expecting the NRL to announce their entry into the competition, only to read in the newspaper that the deal had fallen through. Peter Cumins, Chair of the Perth Bears consortium, spoke to 6PR Breakfast hosts Millsy and Karl about what went wrong...

www.6pr.com.au

Are you purposely trying to show how amateur the cumins consortium was now?

Good to see you’ve come around.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Dont be silly! This smacks of Western Reds travel cost imposition all over again.

Again .. which never actually happened …i keep telling you this and have for 20 years

they joined Super League before they actually played in the competition …. Were they still paying the travel costs on behalf of Super League ?

 

[Kurt Angle]

Is that last paragraph actually true ?

Yes, they run around in the same circle of north England expats

PR had a formal gig with the Pirates, Cummins made sure he got the role

 

[Matt_CBY]

Cant say, but what I can say is what the NRL identified as plan B wont happen. and thats straight from the horses mouth. So it’s either NRL invests $50mill and owns the license or they sit down with the consortium and work something out.

Put up the name of the horse for shut up.

 

[Wb1234]

Yes, they run around in the same circle of north England expats

PR had a formal gig with the Pirates, Cummins made sure he got the role

No wonder why I thought Cummins was a dope