WA BEARS

[Wb1234]

Aint a lot to be complimentary about. On the face of it, they arent travelling well or moving up rapidly. It doesnt bode well, but the league itself has a longer term view.

I mean the Swans and Lions both went bankrupt twice in their first decade and they are still here

I’ve said this before the best thing about afl is how they back their expansion clubs one hundred percent via grants and draft picks whilst the nrl just throws its new clubs in the deep end

And the existing clubs are way more pro expansion than insular nrl clubs

Look at the funding difference in afl which strong clubs accept. That would have zero chance of being accepted by nrl clubs even when the rich ones won’t be hurt by it

 

[SirPies&Beers]

fwiw aussie rules numbers in west sydney are declining

‘Not where we want to be’: AFL booming in Swans territory, but it’s a different story out west

The Giants may be flying high in the finals, but the AFL admits that it still has significant work to do on attracting fans and participants in western Sydney.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Wb1234]

Which is untrue anyway, if Bears hadnt been forced on Perth we would have likely had the WC Pirates brand back and elevated to NRL level (if the consortium had got up).

Not true

Without the bears you wouldn’t have had a license

Pvl made that clear from the start

 

[SirPies&Beers]

I know. That’s the funny bit. These two peanuts have NFI.

neither does perth reds so no point agreeing with that liar dudes even more clueless than the mob but at least the mob dont outright lie about things like perth reds does ie sources ie coffee dates with reds officials ie etc etc etc etc

 

[Perth Red]

I’ve said this before the best thing about afl is how they back their expansion clubs one hundred percent via grants and draft picks whilst the nrl just throws its new clubs in the deep end

And the existing clubs are way more pro expansion than insular nrl clubs

Look at the funding difference in afl which strong clubs accept. That would have zero chance of being accepted by nrl clubs even when the rich ones won’t be hurt by it

NRL has gone the other route, giving every club enough money so the poorest ones are ok even though the richest ones dont need it. No choice really given the fact the clubs still run the game in reality unlike AFL where their commission seems to be far more powerful and less influenced by the clubs.

 

[Perth Red]

Not true

Without the bears you wouldn’t have had a license

Pvl made that clear from the start

At this moment in time due to the leadership we have. And thats the point, Sydney centric Vlandys wants Bears back, Perth is just an opportunistic vehicle willing to pay to make it happen.

There is absolutely no reason at all that with a rich consortium willing to spend $30mill+ and a State Govt willing to spend $400mill+ Perth shouldnt have had its own club.

 

[wb2027]

Which is untrue anyway, if Bears hadnt been forced on Perth we would have likely had the WC Pirates brand back and elevated to NRL level (if the consortium had got up).

I don't recall the consortium mentioning the Pirates at all before the Bears & Jets each put forward their case to the consortium back in June.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

NRL has gone the other route, giving every club enough money so the poorest ones are ok even though the richest ones dont need it. No choice really given the fact the clubs still run the game in reality unlike AFL where their commission seems to be far more powerful and less influenced by the clubs.

thats because until recently more than half the clubs werent profitable so of course the nrl went the other way. no option but to.

 

[Vlad59]

neither does perth reds so no point agreeing with that liar dudes even more clueless than the mob but at least the mob dont outright lie about things like perth reds does ie sources ie coffee dates with reds officials ie etc etc etc etc

I’ve had my issues with PR in the past but I don’t consider him to be a liar. If he’s bitter about the NRLs treatment of Perth, then he has reason to as it’s been farcical.

 

[Pippen94]

Which is untrue anyway, if Bears hadnt been forced on Perth we would have likely had the WC Pirates brand back and elevated to NRL level (if the consortium had got up).

The consortium backing was smoke & mirrors. NRL dodged a bullet, although Vlandys wasn't even talking to their chairman.

 

[Wb1234]

At this moment in time. And thats the point, Vlandys wants Bears back, Perth is just an opportunistic vehicle willing to pay to make it happen.

There is absolutely no reason at all that with a rich consortium willing to spend $30mill+ and a State Govt willing to spend $400mill+ Perth shouldnt have had its own club.

Tell that to any other nrl boss before Pvl and you still wouldn’t have a club

Linking with the bears derisks Perth at the cost of one home game and using the bears instead of pirates logo.

Whoopie do

 

[Perth Red]

I don't recall the consortium mentioning the Pirates at all before the Bears & Jets each put forward their case to the consortium back in June.

Pirates was a Cumins backed brand and jnr system. Whilst it was never mentioned (in fairness they didnt get the chance) I am confident that is what they would have gone with if the Bears hadnt been forced on us.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

At this moment in time due to the leadership we have. And thats the point, Sydney centric Vlandys wants Bears back, Perth is just an opportunistic vehicle willing to pay to make it happen.

There is absolutely no reason at all that with a rich consortium willing to spend $30mill+ and a State Govt willing to spend $400mill+ Perth shouldnt have had its own club.

so rich that they had half their consortium unnamed mystery mortal kombat secret characters, had to go to tse sydney kings very late for more investors, didn't have the cash for a license fee even though arlc told them about it twice.

so sydney centric that next four clubs are phins png perth and nz

you talk so much shit

 

[Pippen94]

I’ve had my issues with PR in the past but I don’t consider him to be a liar. If he’s bitter about the NRLs treatment of Perth, then he has reason to as it’s been farcical.

He lied yesterday about the unnamed backers for the Perth consortium.

 

[Perth Red]

Tell that to any other nrl boss before Pvl and you still wouldn’t have a club

Impossible to know, we've never been in a financially backed position like this before.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Pirates was a Cumins backed brand and jnr system. Whilst it was never mentioned (in fairness they didnt get the chance) I am confident that is what they would have gone with if the Bears hadnt been forced on us.

confidence stem from your secret sources who are always wrong? coffee dates with insiders? or just a clueless opinion?

also nrl dont wanna deal with cumins. the muttering fool isnt wanted in the game that much has been made apparent.

also with forced, did anyone force west aussie government to approach bears in 2022? like you cant keep up with the time line of your own backyards goings

 

[Pippen94]

so rich that they had half their consortium unnamed mystery mortal kombat secret characters, had to go to tse sydney kings very late for more investors, didn't have the cash for a license fee even though arlc told them about it twice.

so sydney centric that next four clubs are phins png perth and nz

you talk so much shit

No unnamed backers were revealed other than Sydney King, who was a late addition after official submission.

 

[Pippen94]

Im saying we arent in the boardroom, and the league has always said this was a generational project.

People responsible for failure haven't admitted to it. No surprise.

 

[Wb1234]

Impossible to know, we've never been in a financially backed position like this before.

You will look good in red n black jersey

At least one of your clubs will be a foundation club

 

[SirPies&Beers]

No unnamed backers were revealed other than Sydney King, who was a late addition after official submission.

he said there were 2 more must of been reptile and smoke from mortal kombats only codes unlock these backers