WA BEARS

[SirPies&Beers]

I think he's allergic to flying West Cant say I've ever seen him at SOO or any NRL events here.

Rumoured but never confirmed. The WA Govt has had a working group led by Tinley, NRL working group led by Beattie. Them two would have met many times over the last 12 months.

true, i mean i can't say i've ever gone looking for v'landys at games i've gone to i've usually been watching the footy. is tinley part of this department set up to investigate and negotiate into an nrl club? is he like a sports minister?

 

[Wb1234]

thanks! is that from either builderbear or redblackbear sharing this talk?
hopefully there's a positive outcome from these meetings.

There is no builder bear

That’s one of the alts talking about red&blackbear lol

 

[Perth Red]

true, i mean i can't say i've ever gone looking for v'landys at games i've gone to i've usually been watching the footy. is tinley part of this department set up to investigate and negotiate into an nrl club? is he like a sports minister?

There's this thing called media, its amazing they share things with you like when the ARLC chair is at a big event.

Tinley:

Government to support third party bidder for WA-based NRL team

McGowan Government to support potential third-party bid for a WA-based NRL team. Preliminary work has already begun with VenuesWest appointing consultants Freshwater Strategy to ascertain interest from potential third parties and determine bid structure.

www.venueswest.wa.gov.au

 

[Matt_CBY]

If it’s not in the media it didn’t happen lol

 

[flippikat]

Possible, another reason they need it get the announcements out asap so they can start building the squad for 2027.

If Perth debut gets delayed to 2028 (start of next TV deal instead of last year of the current deal in 2027) will be interesting to see if any players get 1-year "stop-gap" deals at clubs, similar to how Sean Hoppe was let go by the Raiders at the end of 1993 and played 1994 at North Sydney before he could start his Warriors contract in 1995.

 

[Perth Red]

If Perth debut gets delayed to 2028 (start of next TV deal instead of last year of the current deal in 2027) will be interesting to see if any players get 1-year "stop-gap" deals at clubs, similar to how Sean Hoppe was let go by the Raiders at the end of 1993 and played 1994 at North Sydney before he could start his Warriors contract in 1995.

I think that could well happen regardless of if KO is 2027 or 2028. Id expect some targeted players out of contract end of 2025 to look for one year deals in 2026 until they joined the WA club. In some ways, as inpatient as I am!, a 2028 KO would be no bad thing. Gives time to get the CofE and stadium projects finished and the WA jnr pathway clubs up and running in the NSW comps.

 

[Dragonwest]

I think that could well happen regardless of if KO is 2027 or 2028. Id expect some targeted players out of contract end of 2025 to look for one year deals in 2026 until they joined the WA club. In some ways, as inpatient as I am!, a 2028 KO would be no bad thing. Gives time to get the CofE and stadium projects finished and the WA jnr pathway clubs up and running in the NSW comps.

Could bring in HM for 25/26 - start training them in 8 months time.

Bring in SG Ball 1 year later.

NRLWA should be running a summer camp asap if this all goes ahead to lead them into HM next year.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

There's this thing called media, its amazing they share things with you like when the ARLC chair is at a big event.

Tinley:

Government to support third party bidder for WA-based NRL team

McGowan Government to support potential third-party bid for a WA-based NRL team. Preliminary work has already begun with VenuesWest appointing consultants Freshwater Strategy to ascertain interest from potential third parties and determine bid structure.

www.venueswest.wa.gov.au

McGowan is long gone and so are freshwater. So is tinley still involved?

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Could bring in HM for 25/26 - start training them in 8 months time.

Bring in SG Ball 1 year later.

NRLWA should be running a summer camp asap if this all goes ahead to lead them into HM next year.

why bring in a hm team so soon thats only going to get flogged? why not just mandate that north’s needs to have minimum 5-6 wa players in hm and work your way up like that until there’s enough players to actually be competitive against the others clubs and then bring in the wa hm sg and jf teams.

It’s not like kids relocating that young to play in footy systems away is a new concept. Been happening for decades for country and qld kids coming to Sydney. There’s families and housing that are paid for by clubs specially for this. also there’s already established bears sides in those comps , it’ll keep everyone’s costs down not having to fly all other clubs juniors and kids to wa initially.

once the pot of players grows then bring in the local sides but until then I don’t see any good in having them get flogged 50+ for years on end

 

[Dragonwest]

why bring in a hm team so soon thats only going to get flogged? why not just mandate that north’s needs to have minimum 5-6 wa players in hm and work your way up like that until there’s enough players to actually be competitive against the others clubs and then bring in the wa hm sg and jf teams.

It’s not kids relocating that young to play in footy systems away is a new concept. There’s families and housing that are paid for by clubs for this. also there’s already an established bears side, it’ll keep everyone’s costs down not having to fly juniors kids to wa initially.

once the pot of players grows then bring in the local sides but until then I don’t see any good in having them get flogged 50+ for years on end.

The two pathway will run independently at HM and SG Ball level.

Its important for WA Rugby League to offer an alternative pathway to the Force asap as we have issues with the Force pushing "no Rugby League" contracts on 15/16 year olds.

Having been at Pirates verse Bears SG Ball games (when 18s) the difference was small. We bring back in the kids we lose to Rugby and those kids that no longer leave WA for NSW/QLD programs and we'll be competitive at HM level very quickly.

Once kids filter through the full program, with them being slowly built up from 12/13 years old and Perth will be fine.

 

[Dragonwest]

once the pot of players grows then bring in the local sides but until then I don’t see any good in having them get flogged 50+ for years on end

It was half our best kids (rest lost to Rugby & NSW/QLD league programs) on a 12 week crash coarse straight into SG Ball that was getting flogged. Most those kids had never seen the inside of a gym or been through a proper conditioning program.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

The two pathway will run independently at HM and SG Ball level.

Its important for WA Rugby League to offer an alternative pathway to the Force asap as we have issues with the Force pushing "no Rugby League" contracts on 15/16 year olds.

Having been at Pirates verse Bears SG Ball games (when 18s) the difference was small. We bring back in the kids we lose to Rugby and those kids that no longer leave WA for NSW/QLD programs and we'll be competitive at HM level very quickly.

Once kids filter through the full program, with them being slowly built up from 12/13 years old and Perth will be fine.

eventually it will but according to who will it run independently at the start? why would perth think they are better placed than warriors and storm who didn’t have these junior sided until very recently?

 

[Wb1234]

The two pathway will run independently at HM and SG Ball level.

Its important for WA Rugby League to offer an alternative pathway to the Force asap as we have issues with the Force pushing "no Rugby League" contracts on 15/16 year olds.

Having been at Pirates verse Bears SG Ball games (when 18s) the difference was small. We bring back in the kids we lose to Rugby and those kids that no longer leave WA for NSW/QLD programs and we'll be competitive at HM level very quickly.

Once kids filter through the full program, with them being slowly built up from 12/13 years old and Perth will be fine.

The force make juniors sign a no rugby league contract ? Wtf

 

[SirPies&Beers]

It was half our best kids (rest lost to Rugby & NSW/QLD league programs) on a 12 week crash coarse straight into SG Ball that was getting flogged. Most those kids had never seen the inside of a gym or been through a proper conditioning program.

Hm and sg ball are 9 week comps. so what really changes? I think you’re missing the point that it all comes down to systems, coaching, resources and all that jazz and if wa don’t have it set up initially then they’re on a hiding to nothing. Might as well be patient like storm and warriors have been and then set it up once it’s ready to go. have kids initially go to Sydney and play with north’s and limit travel etc.

like I said kids relocating for footy has been around for a long time.

 

[T to the T]

PVL and WA Premier Roger Cook meeting 2morro in Sydney

It's now or never then! I'm optimistic, the WA Gov pay for 5 games in 2026 on top of the 3+Origin in 2025 (replicating half a season of home games) and some more $$$ chucked at grassroots, and WA Bears commence in 2027.

PVL gets a few more million for the game than would've happened if the initial bid had just been accepted outright, Cook looks strong and decisive getting an NRL side for Perth after 30 years of hurt and something to trumpet in the run up to the state election in March 2025, and we can finally all get along here. Well all apart from the last bit maybe

 

[AlwaysGreen]

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