WA BEARS

[Perth Red]

Geez, you talk some shit. It isn’t inevitable.

The QRL and NSWRL in their current forms with their current competitions are safe and the only change for the foreseeable future is that more funding will be going into them.

Time will tell. QRL is the barrier and most of the Qlnd NRL clubs would rather their own reserve team than farm players out. When the new clubs come in and the inevitable dilution of talent happens the calls will get louder and louder.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Alternatively this next round of TV negotiations should theoretically be the last round of traditional broadcasting negotiations. The game has been investigating costs to produce their own product and then on sell the product to the highest bidders. It’ll put a tonne of cash into the games pockets that’s otherwise lost due to Channel 9 and Foxtel for example needing to produce the product’s production that it airs.

@Red&BlackBear you posted the above on september 25th 2024 in nrl plans for a 20 team comp thread... and only now been made news and blokes like perthwrongs STILL dont sign up to ya. what a joke that bloke is.

posthing this here cause it mentioned west aussie expansion.

Why NRL wants to bring TV production in-house ahead of next rights deal

The rise of streaming services such as Netflix and Amazon Prime could result in a huge change to the way rugby league is broadcast.

www.smh.com.au

Why NRL wants to bring TV production in-house ahead of next rights deal​

The NRL will consider bringing broadcast production of its matches in-house ahead of the next television deal to entice streaming services to bid for the rights.
The governing body will start negotiations with potential media partners once it has made a definitive call on the number of teams in the competition. PNG will enter the league in 2028, while there remains the prospect of another franchise – most likely in Perth – coming in a year earlier.


Negotiations with the Western Australian government will recommence now that Roger Cook has been reappointed as premier, with a decision on the region expected within two months.
While the existing broadcast deal between Foxtel and Nine Entertainment – the publishers of this masthead – doesn’t expire until 2027, the NRL wants to get to the table early to consider all the options in an increasingly fragmented media market.

Sports rights are becoming valuable to streaming services – such as Netflix, Amazon Prime, Google and Apple – but they usually prefer a clean feed to be provided rather than having to produce the content themselves.

It’s one of the reasons the NRL is considering bringing production of its rugby league content in-house.


“That is definitely an option,” ARLC chairman Peter V’landys said. “We have to consider it because some of the other streamers require us to provide them a clean feed. The ones we spoke to last time around, we would have had to do production.

“It will be the same quality as what we get now, that’s the thing. With technology, you can add things. If you have your own equipment, you can reinvest and keep up with the technology. There’s robotic cameras, there’s AI.”


Under the leadership of V’landys, Racing NSW paid a reported $5 million for production equipment to Global Advance, which had gone bust after previously broadcasting A-League matches. However, the NRL would likely purchase its own equipment if it decided to bring production in-house rather than lease from elsewhere.

The issue of traditional media – in the form of free-to-air and pay-TV – coming under pressure from streaming services was a topic of conversation at a recent NRL business of sport conference in Las Vegas. Keynote speaker David Nathanson of Mapleton Investments – who acquired the American rights to the NRL while at Fox Sports – said “the television and pay TV business in the United States is in a state of irreversible decline”.

“The aggregate programming fees, the fees that distributors are paying networks for their rights, is not keeping up with the pace of decline,” Nathanson said.

“That is leading us to this state of irreversible change in the US television market.
“Sports are unquestionably the most coveted assets for traditional media companies. Why? It’s the only thing keeping their audiences connected with their pay-TV universe and the old model. Entertainment content has already left the building. They’re gone, they’ve already gone to the streaming platforms. Sports will turn off the lights.”

Nathanson pointed to Netflix having 89 million subscribers in the US, at a time when the number of pay-TV subscribers was just 67 million. He added that streamers were keen to acquire sporting content given 80 per cent of the most-watched programs in America were sports related, a number that would have been higher still if not for the US election.

He said content entrants such as Apple were well placed to jockey for sporting content given that globally there are 2.2 billion active Apple devices, including phones and computers.
“You have an apex predator on the horizon, one that is acquiring content selectively with a significantly better mousetrap than that model that has been created by the traditional providers, and those are the streamers,” Nathanson said.

“They are better at hunting for subscribers and monetising these rights than any of the traditional players.”

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Time will tell. QRL is the barrier and most of the Qlnd NRL clubs would rather their own reserve team than farm players out. When the new clubs come in and the inevitable dilution of talent happens the calls will get louder and louder.

time's only gonna tell that once again youll be wrong. perthwrongs, ding dong.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Time will tell. QRL is the barrier and most of the Qlnd NRL clubs would rather their own reserve team than farm players out. When the new clubs come in and the inevitable dilution of talent happens the calls will get louder and louder.

NRL clubs want a lot of things until they realise they have to pay for it.

QRL isn’t a barrier by any stretch of the imagination. It structured and supports the framework in which the game in the state operates under. No amount of articles you read online (with driven agendas) will tell you the full story here.

So yes time will tell then confirm exactly what I’m stating here. Like mentioned in my post to WB, Brian and Ben are working overtime on a few things to ensure QRL and it’s competitions only get stronger and also more investment put into them.

 

[Perth Red]

Like I said the drums will beat louder and the NRL can now afford it.

Why Smith is hesitant to support NYC return

“I’m just not sure whether it’s the right thing to do though."

www.sen.com.au

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Like I said the drums will beat louder and the NRL can now afford it.

Why Smith is hesitant to support NYC return

“I’m just not sure whether it’s the right thing to do though."

www.sen.com.au

wtf does nyc (essentially upgraded jersey flegg) have to do with reserve grade? you realise people keep aging yeah? lol

perthwrongs, ding dong. trying his absolute best to get one up and coming across as a clueless yet again.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Like I said the drums will beat louder and the NRL can now afford it.

Why Smith is hesitant to support NYC return

“I’m just not sure whether it’s the right thing to do though."

www.sen.com.au

I honestly don’t know why you keep doing it to yourself. Somehow you think an article from 6 months ago and is purely based on opinion is your trump card that proves something?

If you’re hearing drums in your head I suggest you book an appointment with your closest ENT clinic.

Don’t let this be another case of you debating me on something (which you have no basic knowledge of) and you being wrong, again. You should have learnt your lesson with all the Perth Bears stuff.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Like I said the drums will beat louder and the NRL can now afford it.

Why Smith is hesitant to support NYC return

“I’m just not sure whether it’s the right thing to do though."

www.sen.com.au

I honestly don’t know why you keep doing it to yourself. Somehow you think an article from 6 months ago and is purely based on opinion is your trump card that proves something?

If you’re hearing drums in your head I suggest you book an appointment with your closest ENT clinic.

Don’t let this be another case of you debating me on something (which you have no basic knowledge of) and you being wrong, again. You should have learnt your lesson with all the Perth Bears stuff.

PERTHWRONGS, DING DONG

 

[Wb1234]

I read the west coast eagles pay the wafl a fee each year like five or ten million dollars

I’m guessing the dockers do too

Perhaps the nrl should’ve copied this

Also under 21 reserve grade then nrl

Good for fan day experience

 

[SirPies&Beers]

I read the west coast eagles pay the wafl a fee each year like five or ten million dollars

I’m guessing the dockers do too

Perhaps the nrl should’ve copied this

Also under 21 reserve grade then nrl

Good for fan day experience

the idea would be to have nrl and nrlw all have teams and being same day same location.

if ya want a third game then have a nsw cup and q-cup game before hand.

i.e.

q cup northern pride v tweed seagulls into
nrlw cowgirls v titans into
nrl cowboys v titans.
for qld.

nsw cup bulldogs vs knights into
nrlw bulldogs v knights
nrl bulldogs v knights
for nsw.

if its a qld nrl club vs nsw nrl club then whoever has home ground has a game 1 ie.

q cup souths logan v wynnum seagulls
nrlw broncos v eels
nrl broncos v eels

or

nsw cup eels v whoever
nrlw eels v broncos
nrl eels v broncos

the nsw cup "whoever" that dont play in their same game day nrl/nrlw counterpart schedule those game can be replaced by the jersey flegg as game 1. it really isn't that big of a deal. incredibly easy to schedule. you schedule nrl first, nrlw second (once they have 17/18/19 teams) and then play with the nsw and qld cup draws.

anyways digressing big time and lets be honest most people really only wanna sit through their main team games. magic round works cause near pubs and all games are nrl. days of arriving 4 hours early to footy to watch all grades are gone. people are busy and have short attention spans.

the biggest thing is that nrl tv negotiations try work into absorbing nsw rl and qrl into scheduled broadcasted games.

another thing against reserve grade is that like bears said alot of players miss out they get bumped into 3rd grade. right now theres 350 players in q-cup knowing they are 1 grade away from the big time nrl. i bet for alot of them it drives them, no matter their actual skill level.

if blokes who miss cut because there just isn't enough teams for 14 to become 4 in reserves thats an extra 2 grades they are away from nrl dream and i think youll start seeing the game lose a bunch of 23, 24, 25 year old and late bloomers. there really is a big impact on player pool. i feel like only couple posters here are seeing the bigger picture. same with kids, 17, 18 19 year olds who arent looked at might give it up because its an extra step they need to go over.

 

[Perth Red]

I read the west coast eagles pay the wafl a fee each year like five or ten million dollars

I’m guessing the dockers do too

Perhaps the nrl should’ve copied this

Also under 21 reserve grade then nrl

Good for fan day experience

The WAFC own the two WA AFL licenses. The Dockers and Eagles pay an annual fee based on revenue to use that license. Last year it was $3mill combined.
In the Western Bears case it would be the NRL who own the club and the license so not much point lol

 

[Perth Red]

I honestly don’t know why you keep doing it to yourself. Somehow you think an article from 6 months ago and is purely based on opinion is your trump card that proves something?

If you’re hearing drums in your head I suggest you book an appointment with your closest ENT clinic.

Don’t let this be another case of you debating me on something (which you have no basic knowledge of) and you being wrong, again. You should have learnt your lesson with all the Perth Bears stuff.

If there's one thing in life I've learnt its never say never. I can see when the impact of 2/3 new teams hits and the NRL is flush with a new tv deal it will be revisited.

 

[ThornlieBear]

Like I said the drums will beat louder and the NRL can now afford it.

Why Smith is hesitant to support NYC return

“I’m just not sure whether it’s the right thing to do though."

www.sen.com.au

The idea for a return of the NYC (Australia) competition stinks as a compromise between the two ideologies. (QRL v majority of the rest of the game).

 

[Wb1234]

The WAFC own the two WA AFL licenses. The Dockers and Eagles pay an annual fee based on revenue to use that license. Last year it was $3mill combined.
In the Western Bears case it would be the NRL who own the club and the license so not much point lol

Not so much money then

Wonder what the wafl and Saafl turnover is v nswrl and qrl

I know the nswrl had ten million cash at bank and the qrl are building bigger offices inside Suncorp stadium

They are big entities in their own right

 

[AlwaysGreen]

I'm assuming your talking about food and have misspelled Waffle and Soufllè.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

If there's one thing in life I've learnt its never say never.

lol how about get a clue about what ya actually trying to discuss and stop talking outright shit ya twat.

ya literally have 0 clue about the games inner workings inside nsw or qld and yet want to come off as some sort of know it all who thinks things a foregone conclusion. thats why ya always wrong cob, because ya so quick to sprout ya bullshit opinions based on baseless articles that ya dont actually take time to understand wtf ya talking about.

perthwrongs, ding dong.

 

[Wb1234]

Nswrl turnover 52 million only 19 million from the arlc

6 million term deposit lol

Qrl revenue 47 million

Of which 28 million from the arlc (9 million more than the nswrl lol)

Cash at bank 12 million

lol lol lol

 

[Perth Red]

Not so much money then

Wonder what the wafl and Saafl turnover is v nswrl and qrl

I know the nswrl had ten million cash at bank and the qrl are building bigger offices inside Suncorp stadium

They are big entities in their own right

It varies, not sure why so low now but at one time is was nearer $9mill. Maybe the stadium deal the WAFC got meant a reduction on the license fee.

Last year WAFC revenue was $36mill (QRL $47mill). But they only got $5mill from AFL (QRL $28mill from NRL). Most is generated at a state level. Royalty income is the 2 AFL club payments and State funding is mostly the stadium deal.

 

[Wb1234]

It varies, not sure why so low now but at one time is was nearer $9mill. Maybe the stadium deal the WAFC got meant a reduction on the license fee.

Similar. Last year WAFC revenue was $36mill. But they only got $5mill from AFL. Most is generated at a state level.

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Waafc (waafl) turnover 35 million
Cash at bank 12
Property over 100 million lol

SANFl similar 35 million turnover and 100 million in net assets

 

[Red&BlackBear]

If there's one thing in life I've learnt its never say never.

That’s all fair and well but considering you have no clue about what you’re actually trying to discuss here, it’s hard to take you and your opinions on what you deem “inevitable”, seriously.

I know the nswrl had ten million cash at bank and the qrl are building bigger offices inside Suncorp stadium

They are big entities in their own right

Just to clarify: Stadiums Queensland are the ones building bigger offices inside Suncorp Stadium and QRL are looking to expand their current offices which is quite literally across the road from the stadium on Castlemaine St. QRL used to be in Suncorp Stadium but they moved out years ago.