WA BEARS

[Iamback]

They just upgraded Brookie and secured 50 million for Leichhardt.
These are historic grounds mate and both clubs still have access to better grounds when big games come up.

Why don't you want a good stadium mate?
You want a shithole?

They also aren't a 1 team town that have higher costs elsewhere

 

[Iamback]

Correct.However the capacity has been reduced as the leagues club development on one side is stalled ATM.
Plus the NRL own the Quest hotel attached to the ground.
Most Sharks supporters are frustrated with the size, but State Govt decided to give all the money to Penrith for their stadium and not to Sharks/ Tigers/Manly.

We are getting a bastardised version of a Stadium ourselves, That is how tight governments are these days

 

[Bukowski]

I think there will be another stadium to match that cost :Tasmania. State Govt set $775m others believe it has escalated to $1bn. For population of 550,000.Nice work if you can get it.

Only holds about 30k too. Crazy

 

[BuffaloRules]

All the new teams will struggle

And if they get admitted then fall behind because of a lack of CoE for example. Then you extend the period of time they are bad.

Ensuring everything is ready for day 1, gives them best chance to compete

Yea … this has historically been the case that expansion teams have initially struggled since Illawarra and Canberra in 1982 which is as far as I go back ….i don’t think the ground they played out of had much to do with it though

 

[taipan]

The Sharks should move to Perth.

No chance the NRL own the Quest hotel adjacent to the ground. They have the 2nd biggest junior nursery in Sydney. Losing your home base ,TV viewership in a heartland area these days is asking for trouble .

 

[Perth Red]

I think there will be another stadium to match that cost :Tasmania. State Govt set $775m others believe it has escalated to $1bn. For population of 550,000.Nice work if you can get it.

Optus stadium itself was around $900mill, it was all the work around it, parklands, new train lines, footbridge over the river that added the other $900mill.

 

[ThornlieBear]

Bottom line is PVL needs to start sucking up to someone to get his club over the line. Albo would be a good start

Why would the soon-to-be Former Prime Minister be a good start?

 

[Steel Saints]

And the Storm came in and played out of shitty Olympic Park for 10 years … and they proved they could get crowd, developed a following and got a new stadium built for them … there is more than one way to skin a cat

So Melbourne, the sporting capital of the Australia, world and the universe only had Olympic Park for rectangular codes right up until 2010. That was pretty embarrassing.

What pushed for an eventual new rectangular stadium in Melbourne were Victorys crowds in the A League at the time. So having multiple tenants to share a stadium helps. HBF Park has the Glory and Force.

IMO, it needs to have a new upgraded HBF Park either by day 1 or at the beginning of season two of their existence. Not a decade plus wait like the Storm, which is not a good example for Perth to follow. Also the Storm had Bellamy to establish that club.

 

[Iamback]

Yea … this has historically been the case that expansion teams have struggled since Illawarra and Canberra in 1982 ….i don’t think the ground they played out of had much to do with it though

Different times now, higher overheads particularly somewhere like Perth who need to add things like Flight costs for their junior teams

 

[BuffaloRules]

So Melbourne, the sporting capital of the Australia, world and the universe only had Olympic Park for rectangular codes right up until 2010. That was pretty embarrassing.

What pushed for an eventual new rectangular stadium in Melbourne were Victorys crowds in the A League at the time. So having multiple tenants to share a stadium helps. HBF Park has the Glory and Force.

IMO, it needs to have a new upgraded HBF Park either by day 1 or at the beginning of season two of their existence. Not a decade plus wait like the Storm, which is not a good example for Perth to follow. Also the Storm had Bellamy to establish that club.

Well mate … it looks like now they aren’t playing out of any stadium in Perth , new or old ..

Is that a good outcome?

 

[Perth Red]

From November right ? And the Perth media and opposition didn’t pick up on it at the time.., or if they did they waited for the election to make a big deal of it and cause maximum damage ..pretty smart I guess

Yep they did a good hatchet job as you would expect a liberal afl loving owned rag would do. Sydney just loaded the gun for them.
Id love to know where the $500 and $320mill figure came from that got bandied around so much.

 

[Wb1234]

Yea … this has historically been the case that expansion teams have initially struggled since Illawarra and Canberra in 1982 which is as far as I go back ….i don’t think the ground they played out of had much to do with it though

Go back further if applies to Penrith and sharks and dogs too (took Penrith 20 years to make their first finals)

Used to be it took a club 50 years from entry in the nswrl to win a comp

Canberra took seven
Illawarra never
Warriors never
Cowboys 20 years
Broncos took 4 years with an origin side

 

[BuffaloRules]

Different times now, higher overheads particularly somewhere like Perth who need to add things like Flight costs for their junior teams

Key word - SiNCE… meaning a lot more have done the same more recently

 

[Bukowski]

Why would the soon-to-be Former Prime Minister be a good start?

He seems dumb enough to do whatever PVL wants. Get him to fund the stadium.

 

[Gobsmacked]

You created a faulty premise and then launched a whole fake solution to it.

Even if this was true, there net interstate migration has been overwhelming positive for years now.

And people don't move because of sport, they move because of better financial opportunity.

That's right people only move for one reason. Keep up the great work

 

[Iamback]

Key word - SiNCE… meaning a lot more have done the same more recently

So the game should aim to learn from the mistakes of GC or repeat it?

 

[BuffaloRules]

Yep they did a good hatchet job as you would expect a liberal afl loving owned rag would do. Sydney just loaded the gun for them.
Id love to know where the $500 and $30mill figure came from that go bandied around so much.

There was nothing in that election article that was not already raised in that SMH article in November… except the journalists incorrectly labelling the development money as a “license fee”

the way things have unfolded … Badel and Read should be given the arse over that

 

[Bukowski]

Different times now, higher overheads particularly somewhere like Perth who need to add things like Flight costs for their junior teams

The NRL were going to own and fund the club so it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[mongoose]

Yes, he showed his hand when he said he wasn't interested in a rusted on AFL state. Maybe the other boardmembers, the clubs or the broadcasters told him that they wanted Perth. I think he had done everything he could do to show interest but actually not personally wanting Perh. He's looking for an excuse not to accept the bid, he has all along.

V'landys secretly must not have thought much of the Bears then...

 

[Wb1234]

Part of the deal i would look to renegotiate on is the grass roots. Whilst $7mill over 5 years is a good amount Id be going back if I was Vland and asking for $5mill over ten years. Allows for longer term planning. Offer a free origin in 2028 for the increase.

That’s an awful deal

Origin is worth ten million