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Peter V’landys makes last-ditch attempt to put Western Australia back to expansion path​


NRL expansion in Western Australia hangs in the balance, but ARL Commission Chairman Peter V’landys has another crucial play in a bid to resurrect the Bears.
Peter Badel, Brent Read and Michael Carayannis

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April 11, 2025 - 4:00PM
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...ory/4aea854ef220a859b32e9454a5a9f347#comments

Peter V’landys insists his relationship with WA premier Roger Cook has not turned toxic as the ARL Commission boss fights to save the Perth bid - and the Bears from NRL extinction.

V’landys’ stance came as former Western Reds chairman Peter Cumins offered to resurrect his $30 million private bid if the NRL fails to strike a deal with the WA government.

The NRL will deliver one final critical advertisement to WA powerbrokers on Saturday when Cronulla face Manly and Souths take on the Cowboys in a double header at Perth’s Optus Stadium.

A feared spectator backlash would be a PR disaster for the NRL in an AFL market dominated by Fremantle and the West Coast Eagles.

NRL expansion hangs in the balance after the WA government baulked at a series of funding requests from League Central, falling short by around $65 million.

That’s a worrying fiscal chasm.

FOURTEEN DAYS TO SAVE WESTERN BEARS

V’landys has moved to reconnect with Cook in recent days for crisis talks. The ARL Commission will make a definitive call on expansion within a fortnight and should the parties fail to smoke the peace pipe over the next 14 days, the Western Bears - slated as the NRL’s 18th team for entry in 2027 - will be aborted.

That would not only be a crushing blow to the NRL in their quest for a bona fide national footprint, but ostensibly drive the final nail into the coffin of the mighty Bears, the foundation club desperate to return to the big league after 25 years in the wilderness.

It’s hard to fathom how relations between V’landys and Cook have so suddenly, and unexpectedly, unravelled.

After State of Origin’s most recent visit to Perth in 2022, Cook wined and dined visiting rugby league journalists and spruiked the multimillion-dollar benefits of the NRL relaunching a franchise in Western Australia.

Now Cook, who won re-election as premier last month in a landslide, has seemingly gone rogue.

‘ROGER AND I GET ON GREAT’

In recent months, he has blasted League Central as a “funny mob to deal with”, told V’landys to “shut up for a little while” and declared the NRL needs WA more than his state needs the rival code to the AFL.

There is a view NRL expansion to Perth is on death’s door, but V’landys is adamant the ARLC and the WA government have not yet abandoned plans for the Western Bears.

“Roger and I get on great,” V’landys said.

“I’m not entering negotiations through the media. Until my Commission meets to discuss it, I’m not commenting on the bid itself.

“We have been very dignified in this process. This (tensions between WA chiefs and the NRL) is all part of a negotiation process, I don’t take any offence to it.

“I still think Roger is a good guy.”

Alarm bells rang on Tuesday when Cook told Channel 9 in Perth the NRL was treating the WA government like a “cash cow”.

“The NRL have to get serious and have to treat us with more respect,” he added. “The delta between WA’s position and the NRL’s position is very large and will be difficult to bridge.”

V’landys has a matter of days to bridge the gap.

He is adamant the climb is not insurmountable, even if NRL bosses believe the AFL has moved to politically sabotage rugby league’s planned incursion into the WA market.

As usual, money, or a lack of it, is at the heart of the divide.

‘THE BUSINESS CASE HAS TO STACK UP’

The NRL sought $120 million over 10 years, not as a touted licence fee, but as a payment that would be pumped into building a rugby league grassroots bedrock in the far west.

The WA government so far has offered $35 million over five years, plus an additional $20m to the creation of a Centre of Excellence.

plus redevelopment of HBF Park in a bid to turn the ground into Perth’s version of Sydney’s CommBank Stadium, home of the Parramatta Eels.

Cook has described V’landys as a “tough bugger” in negotiations and claims the NRL doesn’t understand the WA demographic, but the ARLC boss disputes that critique.

“We aren’t taking Perth for granted at all,” V’landys said.

“I have always said that the business case (for expansion) has to stack up and if it doesn’t stack up, I can’t take it forward.
“I’m not trying to be disrespectful to them (WA).

“I am just trying to validate a business that I can take to the clubs, so that they can see there is a good business case in making this decision.

“But if I can’t justify expansion to the clubs, naturally they will say, ‘Why are you doing it?’

“At the moment, that’s where we’re apart.”


CUMINS WANTS TO RESUSCITATE BEARS BID

At first, it wasn’t the state-backed WA bid that was expected to be the NRL’s 18th team. Cumins, the Cash Converters tycoon, was the driving force behind a private consortium’s push to bankroll the birth of the Western Bears.

The ARLC rejected the Cumins consortium after they initially refused to pay a start-up fee. By the time the Cumins clan revised their document last December with a $20 million offer, V’landys closed the door on that bid and ramped-up talks with the WA government.

Cumins, however, is adamant his bid is not fraudulent and could resuscitate the Western Bears.

The former Western Reds chairman claims the bid was so robust they had secured $30 million in corporate support and were prepared to put $3 million annually into grassroots development.

“We were absolutely ready to go,” Cumins said.

“I am a rugby league diehard. I wasn’t doing it to make money. I was doing it because I love the game and I wanted to see kids in Perth get the same opportunities as kids in NSW and Queensland.

“I would be gutted if this falls over because my whole intention was to see a Perth team back in the NRL.

“If the NRL came to me (to rescue the Perth bid), yes, I would definitely get back in the saddle and try to get it going again.

“But I won’t go to the NRL first.”

Peter Cumins says he is ready to rescue the NRL in Western Australia.

Cumins scuppered suggestions the private consortium’s bid wasn’t up to scratch.

“Our bid offered far more than any other current NRL club,” he said.

“The West Australian public were right behind our bid and we had a great relationship with the WA government and the North Sydney Bears people.

“We agreed with the Bears to stage some home games in Sydney and pre-season games in Sydney for North Sydney Bears supporters to come to.

“We had done a lot of work to blend their history in the Western Australian club and the fans here were right behind it. We even had logos done up.

“In my view, we had a very professional, sound bid with high-quality people to support it.

“We had a head of football and a coach lined up with more than 500 games of NRL experience between them.
“Apparently there was an issue with the licence fee, so we made changes to our business model to accommodate that.

“We sent a revised bid back, including a $20 million commitment for a licence fee and bank guarantee arrangements, all to no avail.

“We lost north of $600,000 on the bid process. It wasn’t like we didn’t invest heavily.

“I still hope this latest bid can get over the line. I am ready to buy a membership and support this because I love rugby league and just want to see a West Australian team in the NRL.”

North Sydney legend and Bears director Billy Moore is holding his breath. He knows failure now will represent one final fatal bullet for the ‘Bad News Bears’ as an NRL enterprise.

“This is the last-chance saloon for the Bears,” Moore said.

“My fear is what happens with further expansion if the PNG team (entering the NRL in 2028) isn’t competitive.
“The Dolphins (the NRL’s 17th team in 2023) were stable from the get-go because the NRL was plugging into an existing framework and it would be the same with Perth because the Bears have existing infrastructure and a supporter base.

“Hopefully both parties can take a deep breath and realise the best thing is to cut a deal.

“But the only two men who can answer what the problem is are Peter V’landys and Roger Cook.

“If the NRL doesn’t end up going to Perth, they will regret it forever.”
 

Perth Red

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They are walking away from 50 million

They had an agreement for up to 500 million til the govt lied
They've already walked away from $50mill and seemingly about to walk away from another $55-70mill. (not sure why the $10mill for Ken allen field wasnt included in Cook's figures? Probably hiding it to appease The West)
 

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And then they added the licence fee and cash for bank guarantees. Who cares what their first offer was. If they make a better offer, the first one is irrelevant.

Intetesting timing hey this latest news from Cumins ..did he offer 30m or $50m originally?
 

Perth Red

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But you are putting all the blame for it not getting done solely onto one party … Im sure there is blame to go around for both sides … it’s obvious why they rejected the earlier deal … they thought they could get more…. Some are saying they were offered more by Cook and he reneged
Not at all. Ive said its disappointing the bid wasnt stronger, its disappointing the NRl put up reasons for it being turned down, then turned down the revised bid when those conditions were met.
Ive said its disappointing the sydney media werent controlled and that put the WA govt in a bind and its disappointing the WA govt hasnt put up more and has allowed itself to be spooked by The West and bloody Basil Zemplis!
Theres plenty of blame to go round. At end of day us the fans and the kids who play RL in WA are the ones who will suffer and the NRL misses a golden opportunity to grow the game over here. Rugby league has a lot more to gain than the WA govt out of this.
 

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Intetesting timing hey this latest news from Cumins ..did he offer 30m or $50m originally?

Even that article suggests it was $50m. $20m licence fee plus $30m grassroots funding.


The ARLC rejected the Cumins consortium after they initially refused to pay a start-up fee. By the time the Cumins clan revised their document last December with a $20 million offer, V’landys closed the door on that bid and ramped-up talks with the WA government.

Cumins, however, is adamant his bid is not fraudulent and could resuscitate the Western Bears.

The former Western Reds chairman claims the bid was so robust they had secured $30 million in corporate support and were prepared to put $3 million annually into grassroots development.
 

Perth Red

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ok… so you can understand why it was rejected then ,,
Not really, I've sold things at less than I had hoped Id get for them. Sometimes you have to take the best offer on the table. $30mill for start up was a fair investment. License fee was contentious and they eventually backed down and offered it. Cant blame them for not starting with their best bid, who does that?
 

Wb1234

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Initial bid was $30mill, then the revised bid included an extra $20mill for license fee and bank guarantees. So $50mill all up.
Rather than crying like a baby maybe see that this looks like it will get over the line finally

The original Cummins bid was sh6t
 

Perth Red

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Pvl speaking well of cookie again and saying the obstacles aren’t insurmountable
It would seem they want to get a deal done, which is something I suppose. Now if they can find a happy middle ground will be the decider. I can see the Govt tipping in a bit more, especially if they put it to female particpation or something that's palatable like that, but I cant see them coming up to $120mill + CofE.

Question I have to ask is it it really worth the NRl walking away from this for the sake of $2-3mill to grassroots a year more? It could cost them a lot more than that in the tv rights.
 

Perth Red

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PVL will look like a fool if he says the business case didn't stack up while turning his back on $50mill .
Especially as it isnt like there is 5 bids worth having on the table to choose from! Its BS anyway, business case my arse, you think the clubs are going to care if NRLWA is funded $5mill a year or $10mill a year?
 

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It would seem they want to get a deal done, which is something I suppose. Now if they can find a happy middle ground will be the decider. I can see the Govt tipping in a bit more, especially if they put it to female particpation or something that's palatable like that, but I cant see them coming up to $120mill + CofE.

Question I have to ask is it it really worth the NRl walking away from this for the sake of $2-3mill to grassroots a year more? It could cost them a lot more than that in the tv rights.
Nope

Especially when those grassroots won’t be producing much anyway

The better scenario is the force will be dead In five years and all the money the aru and twiggy spent on union goes to league, just like in melb
 
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