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Cook still isn't publicly saying the deal is done.

I assume he doesn't want anything hurting WA Labor chances at the Federal Election.

So whomever leaked this from the NRL has f**ked him over a bit.

Nah, id guess the opposite.

Labor and NRL leaked together to get some good news put (officially “we have nothing to comment at this time”)

Labor might try to get it locked in this week and Albo gets to join the formal announcement in the last week of the campaign.

As an announcement, it will appeal to West Australians AND the whole east cost.

as for as election anniversary ho, this would be one of the best you could hope for!!
 

NWQRabbit

Juniors
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*Under the terms of the final agreement over Perth, it is understood the WA government has committed to spend:

- $35 million on grassroots football over the next seven years;

- $25 million on content over the next five years; and

- nearly $6 million on helping with costs of the new side.

While the WA government will not pay a licence fee, a further $20 million will be committed to a Centre of Excellence with a promise that there will likely be an upgrade of their home ground - HBF Stadium.

This masthead understands that the ARL Commission will run the new Perth franchise for a minimum of five years before it becomes a member-based club.*

Some good detail here that I haven't seen in other articles. The most intriguing one to me is the 25 million dollars for content over 5 years.
Interesting what it could be for, assuming it would cover 2 origin games in that period plus a double header and game at hbf each year.

From memory they paid 5 million for an origin and double header for 1 year a while back which would leave a lot of value to be recouped in other content to reach 25 million. Could they get magic round one year or something similar. Maybe just some more double headers and games at hbf until 2027?
 
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If you're thinking "2030 at the earliest", I reckon a good plan would be Perth (2027), Christchurch (2029) then PNG (2031) - it staggers three teams over 4 years, PLUS PNG would be the team that takes us from 9 games per weekend to 10, spinning a bit more rights money to mitigate the risk.

That maths is dumb.

every new team adds 12 games to the season. That is all.
 

Canard

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Nah, id guess the opposite.

Labor and NRL leaked together to get some good news put (officially “we have nothing to comment at this time”)

Labor might try to get it locked in this week and Albo gets to join the formal announcement in the last week of the campaign.

As an announcement, it will appeal to West Australians AND the whole east cost.

as for as election anniversary ho, this would be one of the best you could hope for!!
I love your optimism, but "Govt spending money" is always going to be spun negatively by Australia's commercial media outlets.
 

flippikat

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That maths is dumb.

every new team adds 12 games to the season. That is all.
Fair point, BUT I was talking about the week-in, week-out scheduling aspect.

Sure going from 18 to 19 adds overall games into the season, but from a scheduling aspect going from 19 to 20 means the potential for one more timeslot each weekend, one more game each weekend & one more "unit" of content to tangibly sell on a week to week basis.
 

Gobsmacked

Bench
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If you're thinking "2030 at the earliest", I reckon a good plan would be Perth (2027), Christchurch (2029) then PNG (2031) - it staggers three teams over 4 years, PLUS PNG would be the team that takes us from 9 games per weekend to 10, spinning a bit more rights money to mitigate the risk.
This is the actual order that expansion should be happening. There's no way Christchurch won't be 1000× more prepared for entry than PNG in 2029.
For PNG to be successful, it'll need as much runway as possible.
You could throw Christchurch together in 6 months and it'll be successful.
 

Wb1234

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*Under the terms of the final agreement over Perth, it is understood the WA government has committed to spend:

- $35 million on grassroots football over the next seven years;

- $25 million on content over the next five years; and

- nearly $6 million on helping with costs of the new side.

While the WA government will not pay a licence fee, a further $20 million will be committed to a Centre of Excellence with a promise that there will likely be an upgrade of their home ground - HBF Stadium.

This masthead understands that the ARL Commission will run the new Perth franchise for a minimum of five years before it becomes a member-based club.*

Some good detail here that I haven't seen in other articles. The most intriguing one to me is the 25 million dollars for content over 5 years.
Interesting what it could be for, assuming it would cover 2 origin games in that period plus a double header and game at hbf each year.

From memory they paid 5 million for an origin and double header for 1 year a while back which would leave a lot of value to be recouped in other content to reach 25 million. Could they get magic round one year or something similar. Maybe just some more double headers and games at hbf until 2027?
“While the WA government will not pay a licence fee, a further $20 million will be committed to a Centre of Excellence with a promise that there will likely be an upgrade of their home ground - HBF Stadium.”

2028 is in between the men’s and women’s union wc and Perth bears would’ve been around for two years by then
 

jim_57

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Perth already has Origin in 2028, Melbourne is 2026, so 2027 & 2029 and beyond are up for grabs. One more Origin 2027-2030 and a double header and a HBF Park game next year would be safe bets. What content they’re getting for $25m will be interesting to see.
 

NWQRabbit

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Would love more detail on that.
Yeh absoloutely, it's also a good way of disguising a license fee imo.

Lets say 2 origins over 5 years and a double header each year at optus is worth about 10 of the 25 mil. To make up the rest maybe there will be more standalone games bought for 2026?

What else could they really buy that is worth 15 mil other than magic round? Possibly some international games, maybe some big world cup games (final even?). It could also be that they will get to use the stadium rent free for those 5 years which might be worth between 1 and 2 mil a year.
 

NWQRabbit

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Perth already has Origin in 2028, Melbourne is 2026, so 2027 & 2029 and beyond are up for grabs. One more Origin 2027-2030 and a double header and a HBF Park game next year would be safe bets. What content they’re getting for $25m will be interesting to see.
Origin cycle seems set to be perth/adelaide/melbourne for the foreseeable future with auckland the only other real possibility, so a maximum of 2 in perth over 5 years.
 

jim_57

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Origin cycle seems set to be perth/adelaide/melbourne for the foreseeable future with auckland the only other real possibility, so a maximum of 2 in perth over 5 years.

Yeh with 2026 & 2028 booked it leaves them one of 27, 29 or 30 to buy you’d think. Back to back would be a big call so maybe 2030.

Auckland for 2027 doesn’t seem to be happening though so maybe.
 

Perth Red

Post Whore
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The telegraph has put together a fantasy team for the Bears with players that will be off contract. Pretty handy team

1. Ryan Papenhuyzen (vc)

2. Greg Marzhew

3. Mark Nawaqanitawase

4. Reuben Garrick

5. Will Warbrick

6. Jamie Humphreys

7. Jahrome Hughes (c)

8. Naufahu Whyte

9. Tom Starling

10. Lindsay Smith

11. Viliame Kikau

12. Connelly Lemuelu

13. Lachlan Hubner

14. Jack Cogger

15. Blake Lawrie

16. Griffin Neame

17. Siosifa Talakai
lol, not unless they give us double the salary cap! Look at how hard Redcliffe found it to land star players in year 1. reality is if you want to prise a quality player away from his current team you have to pay significant overs. A solid experienced squad with one big name player and some SL talent will do for year 1 and 2.
 

BuffaloRules

Coach
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This is the actual order that expansion should be happening. There's no way Christchurch won't be 1000× more prepared for entry than PNG in 2029.
For PNG to be successful, it'll need as much runway as possible.
You could throw Christchurch together in 6 months and it'll be successful.

Im actually a fan of the prospects of NZ2 ….but the NRL is not going to admit them for nothing ,,,If we use Perth as an example, then the NRL have had a shit fight over money to be utilised on junior development and a CEO..and are walking away with $70-80m apparently

Who is tipping in the money for NZ2? Who are the NRL even negotiating with ?
 

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