WA BEARS

[titoelcolombiano]

Yes!! If there's anyone in the game that knows how to sort out pathways, it's Phil Gould - and if I was the NRL I'd have him in some official capacity assisting ALL the expansion clubs (including the Dolphins & even going back to the Titans) in getting that part right.

Dolphins are fine been producing NRL talent for decades including some of the greats like Beeston and DCE

 

[Perth Red]

2012 &13 they were wooden spooners
he took over in 2014
2014 10th
2015 12 th (salary cap scandal to deal with)
2017 4th
2018 14th
2019 6th
2020 3rd
2021 4th

Don’t follow the eels that much but on results alone he did ok from where they were prior to him taking over.

 

[flippikat]

2012 &13 they were wooden spooners
he took over in 2014
2014 10th
2015 12 th (salary cap scandal to deal with)
2017 4th
2018 14th
2019 6th
2020 3rd
2021 4th

Don’t follow the eels that much but on results alone he did ok from where they were prior to him taking over.

Precisely. Brad Arthur turned the Eels around well.

The question mark for him is whether he can get a team to translate top 4 finishes into a Grand Final win.

Maybe there's something about the years of disappointment & heartbreak permeating the Parramatta club that he couldn't break.. and a different club could provide him the environment to take that last step?

It's a gamble to try him, but at least we know he's capable of getting an NRL side regularly to the playoffs - which is the first big step for an expansion team.

Got to say though, there's going to be a subset of Perth Bears fans (the Norths community) who'll have decades of heartbreak that make Parra's current drought seem like peanuts by comparison.

 

[Wb1234]

2012 &13 they were wooden spooners
he took over in 2014
2014 10th
2015 12 th (salary cap scandal to deal with)
2017 4th
2018 14th
2019 6th
2020 3rd
2021 4th

Don’t follow the eels that much but on results alone he did ok from where they were prior to him taking over.

And he did it with a pretty poor squad over which he didn’t have full control over who was signed

Parra have been famous for 30 years for letting their juniors go to other clubs where they star (Gallen Galvin etc)

Their pathways are a mess

Can’t remember which year but there was a final v Penrith where the eels bashed Penrith and panthers fluked a win and won the comp

And also a grand final appearance after that

 

[T to the T]

Albanese pissed the election. The West can f**k off. Cakewalk now for Bears... And new stadium?

 

[Perth Red]

well the election is out the way. Time for the main event. Bring on the announcement!

 

[Perth Red]

Precisely. Brad Arthur turned the Eels around well.

The question mark for him is whether he can get a team to translate top 4 finishes into a Grand Final win.

Maybe there's something about the years of disappointment & heartbreak permeating the Parramatta club that he couldn't break.. and a different club could provide him the environment to take that last step?

It's a gamble to try him, but at least we know he's capable of getting an NRL side regularly to the playoffs - which is the first big step for an expansion team.

Got to say though, there's going to be a subset of Perth Bears fans (the Norths community) who'll have decades of heartbreak that make Parra's current drought seem like peanuts by comparison.

We dont need him to win us a Gf. We are quite a few years from worrying about that. We need him to build a competitive team, build the coaching team for pathways and install the right culture for the club. Anything over 14th in first three years is a win. challenging for top 8 by year 5. We have to keep our expectations realistic.

 

[Foreign Legion]

Why can’t we be friends? Twiggy sees opportunities for Force and Perth Bears

Rugby Australia is preparing for the threat of the NRL’s expansion, which will see two cashed-up teams on the hunt for 60 more players - at least.

www.smh.com.au

The NRL is currently finalising expansion to 19 teams by 2028, with a team in Papua New Guinea locked in for 2028 and a deal imminent for the Bears to be revived in 2027 in Western Australia.
A new broadcast deal in 2028 is expected to increase the NRL salary cap to around $15m a year per club, and the two new franchises will not only need over 60 players for the main squads, but at least that number again below, in feeder and junior teams.

That recruitment drive looms as a threat to rugby on a number of fronts. Established Wallabies and Super Rugby players will become potential targets, but the bigger threat is cashed-up NRL clubs further pillaging the pool of talented teenagers who play both codes.

In Perth, the creation of the Bears could even be an existential threat for the Force, who’ve had the city to themselves as a rugby code since 2006. The Force, who are averaging around 7000 fans to home games this year, have a supporter base comprising a mix of locals and New Zealand, English and South African expats.

The Force are viewing it in a different way, however. They believe the Bears’ arrival can provide an opportunity to work together, so both codes can thrive in the state.

“As the owner of the Western Force, Tattarang is open to discussing partnership opportunities with both the Western Australian Government and the NRL,” Tattarang chief executive John Hartman said.

“The establishment of a rugby league franchise in WA presents a unique opportunity to strengthen the state’s sporting landscape and support the growth of both codes at a professional and grassroots level.

“In particular, we see potential synergies in strategic infrastructure investments in the form of shared high-performance facilities, a new or upgraded rectangular stadium and event resources between the Western Force and Perth Bears. We believe the state should work towards this outcome.

“We would consider co-funded investments that ensure a strong future for both codes in Western Australia for decades to come.”
The Bears and the Force are set to share the 20,000-seat HBF Park as a home ground, but despite initial proposals for a WA team including a major, government-funded upgrade to the venue and a centre of excellence for the Bears, it’s unclear if either is part of a revised deal.

Tattarang’s openness to “co-fund” shared facilities could sway the government. And rugby fans will also be buoyed by a statement of support from their billionaire owner about the Force’s long-term future.
In response to the threat posed by the NRL, Waugh said RA’s ongoing work to solidify its financial health, and improve pathway programs, would continue to be important.
“We’re very conscious of that battle for talent, which is getting younger and younger,” Waugh said.
“But while we all often talk about competition with rugby league, they’ve been co-existing as two separate games for a long period of time and I actually think our value proposition is very different to rugby league’s, and we’re proud of our value proposition.

“We need to ensure that pathway and the financial reward athletes get for choosing rugby is competitive as well, and so that’s why we’re focused largely on our own backyard to ensure that we’re securing the financial elements, so that we can compete financially with other codes.

“And in a lot of ways our talent ID needs to be more targeted, and probably more like a rifle shot rather than a shotgun.

“Those (dual code) kids often love rugby, so it’s just then ensuring that we’re providing the pathway for them at a speed that they want it, and that probably been the gap where we just haven’t been able to provide; that pathway at the speed that those athletes want it.

“One of our biggest focuses at the moment is around pathways and academies, and ensuring that we’ve got the right coverage to bring those players through. But equally how do we provide those athletes with the experience in rugby that they can’t get in other codes? Touring, seeing the world, and getting international exposure.”

Waugh said the same sales pitch applies to retaining Wallabies stars like Tom Wright who may be approached.

“We’ve got to compete financially, but also ... you only get one life right? And the career of a player is pretty short. The opportunity that we provide in our game is very different to the opportunity that other codes provide.
“Tom (Wright) for example, playing in front of 80,000 at Twickenham a week later, he’s playing in front of 75,000 at Millennium Stadium then Murrayfield and then he’s off to Aviva Stadium against Ireland. These are big events, week-in week-out.”

 

[Wb1234]

V’landys denies NRL pressuring TV networks for positive coverage

The ARL Commission chairman has hit back at speculation that the game is leaning on broadcasters to be more positive before the start of negotiations on the billion-dollar TV deal

www.smh.com.au

Brace for board spots
While on the Bears, Nine TV host James Bracey has been identified by the NRL as a potential board member for the new Perth team. Bracey is a highly respected media personality and the face of a range of Channel Nine events and programs. In his spare time, he is also a Bears tragic who lives and breathes everything to do with the North Sydney club. He grew up spending his winter afternoons at North Sydney Oval waving a red and black flag.

He has the right people backing him to be on the board for the expansion team. It remains to be seen the level of interest Bracey has in the role. Between reading the news, hosting football, tennis and the Olympics, he is a busy man.

 

[BuffaloRules]

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V’landys denies NRL pressuring TV networks for positive coverage

The ARL Commission chairman has hit back at speculation that the game is leaning on broadcasters to be more positive before the start of negotiations on the billion-dollar TV deal

www.smh.com.au

Brace for board spots
While on the Bears, Nine TV host James Bracey has been identified by the NRL as a potential board member for the new Perth team. Bracey is a highly respected media personality and the face of a range of Channel Nine events and programs. In his spare time, he is also a Bears tragic who lives and breathes everything to do with the North Sydney club. He grew up spending his winter afternoons at North Sydney Oval waving a red and black flag.

He has the right people backing him to be on the board for the expansion team. It remains to be seen the level of interest Bracey has in the role. Between reading the news, hosting football, tennis and the Olympics, he is a busy man.

Geez wb …you copy and paste this part , but not the PVL part which would be much more Intersting to read ,..?

Nothing against the bloke personally….but surely they can get someone with better Management expertise than Bracey ?

 

[Wb1234]

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Geez wb …you copy and paste this part , but not the PVL part which would be much more Intersting to read ,..?

Nothing against the bloke personally….but surely they can get someone with better Management expertise than Bracey ?

Sam’s got the Bear essentials
Criticism of the seemingly unchallenged appointment of Brad Arthur as Perth Bears coach has brought Sam Burgess into the picture as a contender for the job. And Burgess has a significant supporter in ARLC chairman Peter V’landys.

It was significant that another of Burgess’ strong supporters, Wayne Bennett, was sitting beside V’landys at the women’s State of Origin clash on Thursday night.

Burgess spoke to this column from England, where he is coaching Warrington.


The Perth job has obvious appeal ... I’d love to be part of building a team from the ground up in a sports-rich state,” he said. “The right people are aware of my interest, and until I hear from the people making the decision, I’ll be completely focused on my job here.”

Burgess deserves genuine recognition as a candidate. Arthur is far-better credentialled and can rebuild a team, as he showed with Parramatta. He would do an excellent job. But Burgess has an advantage in that he is highly respected for his achievements as a player, and he has the charisma to potentially attract star players and generate interest in a state where AFL is king.

In fairness to Arthur, not even Bennett could land some of the big names the Dolphins targeted.

While on expansion and coaches, Bennett is already being earmarked as coach of the PNG team. The ageless supercoach looks like he will be doing that job into his 80s, which is quite remarkable.“


Told you guys Bennett > png coach was on the cards

 

[mongoose]

Bennet will be near 80 when PNG comes in, I doubt he will still want to be coaching.

 

[Perth Red]

V’landys denies NRL pressuring TV networks for positive coverage

The ARL Commission chairman has hit back at speculation that the game is leaning on broadcasters to be more positive before the start of negotiations on the billion-dollar TV deal

www.smh.com.au

Brace for board spots
While on the Bears, Nine TV host James Bracey has been identified by the NRL as a potential board member for the new Perth team. Bracey is a highly respected media personality and the face of a range of Channel Nine events and programs. In his spare time, he is also a Bears tragic who lives and breathes everything to do with the North Sydney club. He grew up spending his winter afternoons at North Sydney Oval waving a red and black flag.

He has the right people backing him to be on the board for the expansion team. It remains to be seen the level of interest Bracey has in the role. Between reading the news, hosting football, tennis and the Olympics, he is a busy man.

Let’s hope the bar is set a bit higher!

 

[Trifili13]

While Bennett might be the greatest or one of the greatest coaches in the history of the game, his choices for succeeding him when he has left a club have been Steve Price at the Dragons and Jason Demetriou at Souths. I wouldn't be taking his advise on who should be the coach of the Bears based on that track record.

As for taking on the PNG coaching role, are they building a players or retirement village for the squad as Bennett be close to 100 if he isn't already by the time they enter the comp.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Let’s hope the bar is set a bit higher!

As a brand ambassador similar to what Billy is at Norths, Brace would be fantastic.

He is extremely clued on. He has high profile media connections and is around the game weekly. I’ve spoken to him half a dozen times or so in the last 18 months, he has innovative thinking and good ideas for franchise awareness moving forward especially for his age which would be tailored to a younger demographic that is part of the target audience.

Don’t discount him without knowing him. Each member will likely bring something different to the table.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Sam’s got the Bear essentials
Criticism of the seemingly unchallenged appointment of Brad Arthur as Perth Bears coach has brought Sam Burgess into the picture as a contender for the job. And Burgess has a significant supporter in ARLC chairman Peter V’landys.

It was significant that another of Burgess’ strong supporters, Wayne Bennett, was sitting beside V’landys at the women’s State of Origin clash on Thursday night.

Burgess spoke to this column from England, where he is coaching Warrington.


The Perth job has obvious appeal ... I’d love to be part of building a team from the ground up in a sports-rich state,” he said. “The right people are aware of my interest, and until I hear from the people making the decision, I’ll be completely focused on my job here.”

Burgess deserves genuine recognition as a candidate. Arthur is far-better credentialled and can rebuild a team, as he showed with Parramatta. He would do an excellent job. But Burgess has an advantage in that he is highly respected for his achievements as a player, and he has the charisma to potentially attract star players and generate interest in a state where AFL is king.

In fairness to Arthur, not even Bennett could land some of the big names the Dolphins targeted.

While on expansion and coaches, Bennett is already being earmarked as coach of the PNG team. The ageless supercoach looks like he will be doing that job into his 80s, which is quite remarkable.“


Told you guys Bennett > png coach was on the cards

WTF ? What’s that got to do with PVL asking the media for positive coverage ? Weedler struggling

 

[BuffaloRules]

Let’s hope the bar is set a bit higher!

Credentials - Been a fan and went to NSO a few times

 

[Twizzle]

Sam’s got the Bear essentials

 

[Wb1234]

Credentials - Been a fan and went to NSO a few times

The fact that he’s a prominent tv personality and will get them publicity doesn’t hurt either

 

[BuffaloRules]

The fact that he’s a prominent tv personality and will get them publicity doesn’t hurt either

he is very anonymous in Perth