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Warren Ryan - Telling it how it is

Jono078

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So glad to finally read one article where the writer actually has an idea of what's going on and isnt just bashing into Smith.. Very good read imo.

Attitude key for Broncos

Warren Ryan
June 06, 2007 12:00am

IT'S uncanny that Broncos coach Wayne Bennett and his old adversary Brian Smith find themselves simultaneously under fire but for different reasons.
Wayne's headaches appear mild compared with Brian's, yet the Knights are in the eight and the Broncos are running second last.
With due deference to the retired foreman of the engine room, Shane Webcke, the Broncos look to be much the same mob that won the competition last year.

So what's going on?

Webcke's departure removed a ton of grunt but that isn't where the Broncos' problems are now, nor is it where their problems were last year.

Why they have collectively decided to do a stretch down in the cellar is hard to fathom.
Wayne's lads appear to have two hurdles to jump. One is the inability to score tries.
The purchase of young Penrith five-eighth Peter Wallace to play halfback next season is something of a coup, but he can't help the Broncos this year.

Penrith will live to regret not tying Wallace up before they picked him in the top grade.
In the pointscoring department, the facts speak for themselves.

Apart from what now appears to be a flash in the pan, the 71-6 demolition of Newcastle, the Broncos have scored more than 20 points only three times this year and one of them was a 29-28 loss to the Panthers.

In the three weeks leading up to the big score against the Knights and the week after it, the Broncos have failed to reach double figures.

In order, it was an 8-4 win over South Sydney, a 16-8 loss to the Sharks, an 18-6 loss to Manly with both sides denuded of Origin reps, then last weekend's upset 11-4 loss to a depleted Dragons line-up.

The other hurdle the Broncos have to deal with, according to their coach, isn't as visible as a lack of points on the scoreboard. It's attitude. Something Wayne Bennett talked about after the big win over the Knights.

Attitude can't be turned on and off at the reception or loss of the ball. It's an all-through-the-game requirement.

Curiously though, attitude has normally only ever been linked to the vigour and application of a team when it hasn't got the football.

However, there is an attacking malaise – Manly suffered from it regularly in the early '80s when it had 16 internationals on its books – that can descend on a team dripping with representative players.

Everyone appears to be waiting for one of the stars to do something brilliant and in the end nobody does anything.

A whiff of finals football quickly cures that torpor, but there is a long grind still to go and the Broncos are off the pace to defend their title.

If it's only an attitude problem, Bennett has a track record for fixing heads.

Smith's tasks look more complex. He has a long-term goal to make Newcastle the rugby league stronghold that it should be and in doing it, he can't please everybody, let alone a quite vicious section of the Sydney media that endeavours to undermine him everywhere he goes.

For a start, Smith would have continued to be hamstrung in activating his plans if he had no room to move under a salary cap eaten up by players who were overpaid by his predecessors.

In the competitive market that rugby league has become, every player, irrespective of where he was born or grew up, is swimming in a big pool with every other player. Player managers make sure of that.

If Smith can gain the monetary firepower to make sure the out-and-out champions that are born and bred in Newcastle aren't poached, and has enough left over to bolster the positions that aren't up to standard on the Newcastle production line, he is doing his job properly.

No Newcastle junior has a divine right by birth to play for the Knights. That kind of thinking only encourages comfort zones, player cliques and mediocrity. The higher Smith sets the crossbar for local juniors, the better Newcastle teams will be in the future.
To say the Knights' fortune rose and fell on the availability of a fit Andrew Johns was only half the story.

Joey made average gallopers look good enough to earn more than they should have and put good footballers in representative jumpers, which further strained the budget.
The wooden spoon of 2005 that landed on the Knights' doorstep without Joey around should have driven home a few home truths about the shake-up needed at the Knights.
There might be some rough weather ahead before the Knights hit smooth sailing, but Smith has already got the key four positions sorted for the future, something that Bennett is still trying to nail down.

With Danny Buderus at nine, new boy Luke Walsh at seven, Jarred Mullen at six and Kurt Gidley at one, the Knights are positioned for considerable success.

Bennett's men are almost at the point of no return but I wouldn't count them out yet.

Watch both men's critics fade away if the teams make the eight.
 

Nuffy

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Its interesting that Ryan can nail it so perfectly, we know that Smiths on the right track, lets hope we see the fruits of the effort in the not too distant future.

The day a Smith coached team wins the comp, theres going to be a lot of unhappy commentators and pundits.
 
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Scathing article today in the Telecrap about how he is signing a jail bird in the headline it mentions axing "loyal local juniors" and in the article itself it refers to them as "local hero's"

Seriously nothing short of disgraceful the crap they are doing to undermine Smith and by extension the Knights.
 

perverse

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:clap: for the wok!

geez i love reading anything this guy says or writes.. he's one of the best analytical minds our game has... and he's nailed what we've all been talking about here.

as for the other 'scathing' articles posted in the forum today.. what a load of crap. the way the fans have to react to this is continue supporting the team as strongly (if not stronger) than ever. we always knew tough times were coming post-johns.. but geez smith has really been like a big pillow to break the fall so far.
 

CJKnight

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We couldn't have asked for a better coach for the post-Johns era. He has the ability to create a premiership team using our junior base and still have the ability to attract marquee players to the club.
 

Stuzmeister

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It's like the Wok has just been reading this forum and quoted what some of us have said. Good on him. He's absolutely nailed it. If there was more positive writing like that in the papers and less of the crap that is in the Sydney papers the better off league will be.
 

Luke Hatherley

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He said similar during the game on the weekend.

The ABC coverage was awesome on the weekend, I hadn't listened to it before but Hadley (idiot) and Roach (idiot #2) forced my hand. The Wok was the stand out.
 

Misanthrope

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No Newcastle junior has a divine right by birth to play for the Knights.

This says it all, really. Do the Sydney media even venture out to talk to real Newcastle fans, or do they just accost joe average on a Sydney street (irregardless of their loyalty) and milk what they want to hear out of it?
 
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christopherjon said:
We couldn't have asked for a better coach for the post-Johns era. He has the ability to create a premiership team using our junior base and still have the ability to attract marquee players to the club.

I hate to correct you CJ but for years his been voted the coach that players least wont to play for and is famous for having poor people skills. Theres no doubting his analysis of the game or his coaching skills, however his ability to attract the big names is yet to be seen.....

I am quite nervous as are others on this board that Smith's rep may cause us to miss out on the marquee players that we are after.
 

macavity

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I think the thing with Smithy is that on the one hand he has a reputation for playing mind games (although tbh I don't really see challenging players and sending them texts to be mind games, but whatever).....

and on the other he has a reputation for improving players out of sight.

I think what that means is that mentally strong players, with a desire to improve, will be attracted to him.

players that are afraid of a challenge, or are mentally weak, or need to be babied (hello newto), probably won't want to come here.

and that isn't neccessarily a bad thing.
 

KniGhTs BaTTLeR

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Bloody good article. I've been trying to explain to my mates what Smith is doing but they just get the sh*ts with me because I can't explain it properly. Now i'll just send this to them in an e-mail.

Cheerz Jono.
 
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the Wok understands all about letting the dead wood go.

Did anyone see Ben Quinns opinion piece in the newcastle herald last week about how each newcastle coach was the 'man of the moment' & exactly what the team needed at the time?
 

Stranger

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Dread Pirate Roberts said:
Did anyone see Ben Quinns opinion piece in the newcastle herald last week about how each newcastle coach was the 'man of the moment' & exactly what the team needed at the time?

That actually is alot smarter than it sounds. When Wok came to the club, we needed a smart coach just to get that little bit extra out of the players. He served his purpose and then was pushed aside due to various reasons (johns).
In 2001, we needed a coach to keep the players happy and to follow Johns. We got Hages.
Currently, we need a re-building coach. Exactly what Smith is.


The only fear that i can see is that we keep a coach like Smith for to long and start losing some talent because of it. Exactly what happened with Hages.
 

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