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Warriors sign young star Etene Nanai.

Rich102

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The Warriors have won a tug-of-war with rugby union to secure the services of the hottest teenage athletic prospect in Auckland.

Viral footage of Etene Nanai, a cousin of Warriors captain Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, former Chiefs' Samoan centre Tim Nanai-Williams and Blues outside back Melani Nanai, starring at centre for St Kentigern College First XV is wowing social media audiences and raising the question of who has nabbed the signature of the fast-rising 17-year-old.

Warriors development manager Tony Iro confirmed Nanai was signed to the NRL club until the end of 2019 and also revealed coach Stephen Kearney wanted to unleash him in the Auckland Nines in February but he was ruled ineligible due to age restrictions.

The Warriors are happy for him to concentrate on rugby during his final school year but there is a possibility he could turn out for the club's Under 20s side once his First XV commitments have finished.

"He's been with the club for a couple of years but First XV is his priority at the moment," said Iro.

"He's a talented and smart kid and pretty well balanced. He's quick, got good feet and a good footy sense as well, so he's got all the attributes you need. He'll be a good player.

"He spent a little bit of time with the NRL side just before Christmas and did some training but he'll just stay with his First XV side this year before joining us in the preseason."

Warriors back-rower Ryan Hoffman said Nanai made a big impression when he left star halfback Shaun Johnson clutching at air during pre-season training.

"He stood out when he gave Shaun a bit of his own back," said Hoffman.

"We were doing a one- on-one defensive drill and he turned Shaun inside out so that certainly raised a few eyebrows.

"I don't think he could wipe the smile off his face after that."

Auckland-born and bred, Nanai was a standout at fullback in St Kentigern's 2015 Auckland 1A title win and is now proving a YouTube hit after dominating in midfield to help his side win last week's Presbyterian quadrangular tournament and a pre-season match against Christchurch Boy's High.

St Kentigern First XV coach Tai Lavea says he is happy to give Nanai a new challenge, both defensively and organisationally, at centre.

"He's got a lot to learn, but it's a no-brainer that he's one of our marquee players," said Lavea. "He's an abrasive player, he's come back in ridiculous shape and his confidence in contact has gone to another level."

The High School Top 200 website, which unofficially ranks the top First XV players in the country, has Nanai at No3, behind Wellington College lock Naitoa Ah Kuoi and Hastings Boy's first-five Lincoln McClutchie.

Despite his lofty status, Nanai - like fellow Warriors rookie forward and former Mt Albert Grammar First XV star Isaiah Papali'i - was ruled ineligible for the New Zealand Schoolboys rugby side after committing to the 13-man game.

The Warriors are keeping an open mind about where he could slot in through the backline and an eventual move into the halves is not beyond him.

"He's come through the grades as a fullback but he can play centre or wing very easily and has an accurate punt on him, so who knows if he could transfer those skills into the halves," said Iro.

"Time will tell but he's got plenty of skills that will give him the best chance to play a number of positions."

The Warriors secured Nanai's services despite plenty of interest from the Chiefs, who lured him to an Under 18s camp last year from under the nose of his local franchise the Blues.

"I know him well," said Rennie. "We talk to lots of good young kids. As you know, he's been signed by the Warriors, so whether he stays in rugby or goes to league, we'll see what happens."

Rennie admits he would love to see him at the Chiefs, or even in another Warriors jersey.

"I'd love to see him in a Glasgow jumper, but that's probably not going to happen," he quipped.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/article.cfm?c_id=79&objectid=11849157
 

jaseg

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We signed him (or at least had him on some sort of scholarship program) a couple of years back didn't we? Good news that he's presumably re-signed then.

Was named in our 20s squad earlier in the year, I was wondering why they hadn't used him yet - they certainly need something.

Could be our eventual successor to RTS.

Like SpaceMonkey said, good to see us having a go at (and getting) the best talent around. Papalii is one who I believe was rated very, very highly by schoolboy union judges. Shame we couldn't hold on to Payne Haas though, he's been amazing for the Broncos 20s this year.
 

Shaun Hewitt

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Always seem to notice the ones who leave, so its a refreshing change that we've signed(re-signed) someone whose getting the attention
 

SpaceMonkey

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Good to see the club being pragmatic about his 1st IV duties too. That'll help with attracting other schoolboy stars.
 

JJ

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good stuff, I said elsewhere much of the premier talent is in union, really need to work hard on that
 

ozbash

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I'm not actually blaming the club for Ngani leaving.
I never said that, although I do think it could have been handled better.. by both parties.
 

shiznit

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I'm not actually blaming the club for Ngani leaving.
I never said that, although I do think it could have been handled better.. by both parties.
Ngani Laumapi is looking good at the moment too....

Although... If I'm the Warriors and I'm looking at anyone from Rugby....

I see if I can get my hands on Matt Duffie at the Blues... he's been UNBELIEVABLE this season... he would be the perfect winger for the Warriors imo...

Only problem is he could well be an All Black in a few months...
 

jaseg

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Hmmm.... apparently it's not a done deal yet as any contract signed by someone under 18 is unenforceable...

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11850789

The journo probably should've checked with a lawyer before printing that tripe - because he's flat out wrong.

Amusingly, he even quotes the act that tells him he's wrong (Section 6, 2a - it's discretionary from the court, but there's no precedent that they wouldn't rule the contract binding unless the Warriors deal - or conduct in making the deal - is found to have been somehow unfair/unreasonable).

That's union-biased reporters for you, I guess.

Oh, and f*** off Chiefs.
 

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The journo probably should've checked with a lawyer before printing that tripe - because he's flat out wrong.

Amusingly, he even quotes the act that tells him he's wrong (Section 6, 2a - it's discretionary from the court, but there's no precedent that they wouldn't rule the contract binding unless the Warriors deal - or conduct in making the deal - is found to have been somehow unfair/unreasonable).

That's union-biased reporters for you, I guess.

Oh, and f*** off Chiefs.
I think there's a fair chance a judge will decide that asking a minor to sign a contract binding them to an employer as unreasonable.

and TBH I don't have much of a problem with it...

IMO... no club should be allowed to sign an enforceable employment contract with a minor.

I could easily see a judge setting a precedent.

The fact there hasn't been a precedent set already shouldn't sway thinking too much... I think that's more down to culture in NZ.
 

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Youth contracts in sports with 16-17yos are pretty common... you'd be asking a judge to invalidate all of them.

Essentially, as long as the kid has signed to a deal that is reasonable in terms of length and pay opportunities (for what he is - a teenager), and did so with the knowledge and acceptance of his guardian/s, then that's not going to be a problem.

Someone trying to sign a kid to a 10 year deal is going to get their contract ripped up (I wouldn't put it past some unscrupulous sobs to design a contract with years and years of options in a club's favour... essentially meaning all the commitment is by the player, but none by the club).
 

shiznit

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Youth contracts in sports with 16-17yos are pretty common... you'd be asking a judge to invalidate all of them.

Essentially, as long as the kid has signed to a deal that is reasonable in terms of length and pay opportunities (for what he is - a teenager), and did so with the knowledge and acceptance of his guardian/s, then that's not going to be a problem.

Someone trying to sign a kid to a 10 year deal is going to get their contract ripped up (I wouldn't put it past some unscrupulous sobs to design a contract with years and years of options in a club's favour... essentially meaning all the commitment is by the player, but none by the club).
Youth contracts are pretty common... But they are never enforced.

Mainly because enforcing the contract on a minor is considered unethical... So teams usually choose either not to enforce it... Or facilitate an outcome that satisfys all parties.

But there's a whole different issue here... The exemption given to employment contracts in minors contracts law was put in place to protect employers from having uncertainty in employment conditions like remuneration.

The exemption was never intended to prevent a minor from changing employers. By the Warriors enforcing this contract it could be considered a restraint of trade.

Which you would think they would have argue that they have a non-compete clause for the length of the contract... Which once again comes back to an ethical question... Why would you put a non-compete clause in a minors contract... He's not going to have intellectual property he can pass on to a competitor...

It would be akin to McDonalds trying to enforce an employment contract on a 17 yr old to prevent them from pursuing a career with KFC. I doubt a court would let them do it...

So I don't see why it's any different here...
 

jaseg

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Youth contracts are pretty common... But they are never enforced.

Mainly because enforcing the contract on a minor is considered unethical... So teams usually choose either not to enforce it... Or facilitate an outcome that satisfys all parties.

But there's a whole different issue here... The exemption given to employment contracts in minors contracts law was put in place to protect employers from having uncertainty in employment conditions like remuneration.

The exemption was never intended to prevent a minor from changing employers. By the Warriors enforcing this contract it could be considered a restraint of trade.

Which you would think they would have argue that they have a non-compete clause for the length of the contract... Which once again comes back to an ethical question... Why would you put a non-compete clause in a minors contract... He's not going to have intellectual property he can pass on to a competitor...

It would be akin to McDonalds trying to enforce an employment contract on a 17 yr old to prevent them from pursuing a career with KFC. I doubt a court would let them do it...

So I don't see why it's any different here...

Mate... contracts are definitely enforceable against minors unless the contract itself is ruled to be not fair/reasonable. So unless the Warriors did something wrong during the signing of the contract, or structured it in such a way that it could be considered unreasonable (unlikely, given that they've let him play first XV while under contract), then the contract is definitely enforceable against the minor.

The McDonalds example is just weird. Doesn't apply at all. That is ongoing employment, this is a fixed term contract of employment. Non-compete clause? There's no need, he's under contract to play for the Warriors.

For an example; https://www.consumer.org.nz/articles/young-people-and-the-law

Under "About Money"

Leanne, who is 17, wants to buy a stereo on hire-purchase. Can she enter into a contract like this?

Yes. Leanne can sign a contract at any age. However, until she is 18, the Minors' Contracts Act applies and contracts are enforceable only if they are fair and reasonable.
 

shiznit

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Mate... contracts are definitely enforceable against minors unless the contract itself is ruled to be not fair/reasonable. So unless the Warriors did something wrong during the signing of the contract, or structured it in such a way that it could be considered unreasonable (unlikely, given that they've let him play first XV while under contract), then the contract is definitely enforceable against the minor.

The McDonalds example is just weird. Doesn't apply at all. That is ongoing employment, this is a fixed term contract of employment. Non-compete clause? There's no need, he's under contract to play for the Warriors.

For an example; https://www.consumer.org.nz/articles/young-people-and-the-law

Under "About Money"

Leanne, who is 17, wants to buy a stereo on hire-purchase. Can she enter into a contract like this?

Yes. Leanne can sign a contract at any age. However, until she is 18, the Minors' Contracts Act applies and contracts are enforceable only if they are fair and reasonable.
A hire purchase contract is a lot different to an employment contract.

Especially if your talking about a situation where it's a minor is deciding about the future direction of his career.

I'm telling you now... without a shadow of a doubt... if this kid wants to reneg on this contract to play rugby... the Warriors will either let him go to avoid looking bad...

Or a Judge will allow him to.... there's no judge in the country who will force a minor to follow a certain career path against their will.

Contract or not...
 

jaseg

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A hire purchase contract is a lot different to an employment contract.

Especially if your talking about a situation where it's a minor is deciding about the future direction of his career.

I'm telling you now... without a shadow of a doubt... if this kid wants to reneg on this contract to play rugby... the Warriors will either let him go to avoid looking bad...

Or a Judge will allow him to.... there's no judge in the country who will force a minor to follow a certain career path against their will.

Contract or not...

lol...

He signed a contract. Unless the contract is unfair/unreasonable (the terms used in statute), it is enforceable - being a minor gives him that protection, but no more.

For the purposes of being able to sign a contract, a hire purchase contract isn't a whole lot different to a limited term contract of employment (certainly has more similarities than ongoing employment...). Now, if the Warriors signed him to a very long term contract (5, 6+ years etc) that would be a different issue...

He has the ability to pursue whatever career he wants - after the term of his contract (2019?).

It's much more likely a judge chooses to enforce a contract rather than void it, given the precedent he would be setting - every employment contract for every person under the age of 18 (ie. all sports contracts) would be worthless... effectively paying young athletes for no commitment. It would completely change the landscape of professional sport pathways in the country.

Anyway, I believe from memory there are only 2 instances of judges voiding contracts on the basis of one party being a minor. The first was ruled unfair/unreasonable because the plaintiff (a bank) had ignored it's own credit limits and lent the defendant (the minor) more money than was agreed upon - that being construed as predatory practice. The second was ruled invalid because of a mistake by the plaintiff (a credit union) with regard to the age of the defendants - this could be seen as a poor examination of the applicants for the loan (and thus the basis for an unreasonable contract).

That's the standard under NZ law to void a contract (I'll go find the specific case names if you want to refer to them...). So unless the Warriors did a major f up, the contract is definitely going to be enforceable.
 

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