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Watmough AVO quashed

BWNB

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Latu was a great player, wish we could have him back in fact.
Not that i support what he did
 
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gregstar said:
obviously the case is yet to be put forward - but who's to say he isn't threatening her still? it does happen.

i'm certainly not going to side with one side or the other becasue this type of thing can get messy.

as for the avo - isn't police involvement required for this? otherwise how else is a central record of such matters maintained?

A complaint can be taken out by either the alleged victim or the police.

In this case there is a large timeframe between the alleged incident/s and the complaint. That would almost certainly indicate that the complainant is not a police officer.

It should be noted that even the judiciary have been public in their concerns that a high percentage of AVOs are sought falsely, with the intent being to obtain advantage in matters involving residential care of children (custody).

To grant an application for an AVO, the magistrate need only belive that the complainant has a fear of the respondent (accused).

These are not crimnial matters determined by jurys & the respondent to the application is not protected by the higher onus of rules of evidence.

Take it from me gentlemen make sure you dont end up on the end of a vexatious complaint. All males need to be aware of what can happen to them under these loose, feminist driven, corrupt laws.
 

Molon Lave

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MSIH said:
Yeah, it's obviously true.

Fmd, ever heard of innocent til proven guilty?

I know reading and comprehending are two different things, and may be difficult for some but let me spell it out for you...

Trindall first, now Watmough. If both are proven should cop the same as Latu did
 

badav

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Murphdogg1 said:
Latu is a gun player - more like Latu is polynesian and punched a girl - therefore got the punt

You must be f**king kidding right. That is the weakest excuse ever. So it must be okay then for Polynesions to smash girls in the head according to your logic?? Latu got the punt and he deserved to get more than that.
 

spider

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Balmain_Boy said:
Latu got sacked because he was essentially a nobody.
no, he was sacked for admitting that he DID smash a young woman in the face

Lesser players are considered expendable. To a certain degree they are. It's not nice, but it's the way it is.
so if it was a high profile player that admitted too it, he would not be sacked?
 

BWNB

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tigerdan said:
IF HE DONE IT HE should be sacked no matter who he is or how good a player he is

Agreed, more clubs need to follow the sharks precident.
 

Walt Flanigan

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If he did it and is found guily he should be sacked. High profile or not. I would say Noa Nadruku was reasonably high profile when he beat his wife in public and Canberra had no hesitation in sacking him.

I'm a bit foggy on the Latu case, was it the NRL who tore his contract up or Cronulla? Just wondering if found guilty would it be out of Manly's hands?
 
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Walt Flanigan said:
If he did it and is found guily he should be sacked.

What a lot of people here are disregarding is that there is no such thing as guilt being determined in this type of matter. There is no judge. There is no finding of fact. There is just simply a magistrate who either grants the application or doesnt. Nobody determines actual facts or guilt.
 

t-ba

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AVO's are a Civil Issue aren't they?

Noa and Latu got done for Assault right? Criminal Issue?

Tough call on sacking though. There seems to be a lot of innuendo that flies around about Anthony Watmough and anger management issues. I can't say I'd be very suprised if this were true
 

Walt Flanigan

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Jatz Crackers said:
What a lot of people here are disregarding is that there is no such thing as guilt being determined in this type of matter. There is no judge. There is no finding of fact. There is just simply a magistrate who either grants the application or doesnt. Nobody determines actual facts or guilt.

Lionel Hutts: That's why your the judge and I'm the law...talking...guy.
 
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spider said:
no, he was sacked for admitting that he DID smash a young woman in the face


so if it was a high profile player that admitted too it, he would not be sacked?

did gower or hayne get sacked?
 
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t-ba said:
AVO's are a Civil Issue aren't they?

Noa and Latu got done for Assault right? Criminal Issue?

Tough call on sacking though. There seems to be a lot of innuendo that flies around about Anthony Watmough and anger management issues. I can't say I'd be very suprised if this were true

Yes. This is not a criminal case.
 

Danish

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Harold Bishop said:
Why is she getting an AVO after the relationship?

She should have reported it to the police when it happened, reporting something 2 or 3 years later doesn't get taken as serious as a recent case would.


don't they have a few illegitimate kids together??


I know he has a few tykes but not sure if its to this girl or not. If so then clearly they would still need to see each other alot due to the children.
 

sharko

Juniors
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There are highs and lows about being a first grade footballer.
The highs are the perks which include very good salary, having a professional staff available to you so as you do not have to think ( this is vital for league players as 95% of them are thick as pig shat), they play in front of vast live crowds and large tv audiences and women and men are attracted to them because of their profile and percieved wealth.
The lows would be having private domestic matters played out in the media and ones reputation smeared by doubt and innuendo..poor old league players continue to be fodder for low class journalism!
 

MSIH

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Molon Lave said:
I know reading and comprehending are two different things, and may be difficult for some but let me spell it out for you...

Why don't you take your own advice and try reading posts 2 and 3 in the thread again.
 

Molon Lave

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MSIH said:
Why don't you take your own advice and try reading posts 2 and 3 in the thread again.

Hmmm where in either of these posts does he say he is guilty?
Won't happen to Watmough as he is too big a name.. Not suprised about Watmough.. certain habits lead to violence..
Cronulla have set the precedent for dealing with these sorts of players, will Manly take heed?

all they say is that it wouldn't happen to him, not saying he is guilty

so again i tell you, reading and understanding are two different things
 
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