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Wayne Bennett to finish up at St George

soc123_au

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Which is correct, a b or c

A. Sir Wayne to Souths

B. Bunniesman taken to hospital to have the jizz pumped from his stomach

C. Souths make the top eight.
 

Spanner in the works

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Some questions for you Bunniesman around this quote and your general values:

Well Bennett, Nightingale and Boyd are all off contract. We don't need your permission to get them. By the sounds of it those 2 will follow Bennett if at all possible. And someone will take Talanoa, he's young and he's good, and he's probably cheap. If you guys won't take him I'm sure someone will.

Nightingale, Boyd, Bennett in. Lang and Wesser retire. Merritt and Talanoa move elsewhere. I like that.
For what reasons, apart from a coach, would they join?

Understandably you want the best side possible, but realistically can you afford it?

Looking to the future, wouldn't it be better to develop juniors?

Losing Merritt would be like losing a son, is Nightingale and Boyd really worth it?

On the off chance you get them, how are you going to be able to retain your current core group of players like Burgess, Taylor, Sutton and co?

For what reasons would Bennett join?

Some part of you must be concerned about being seen as buying a premiership and it's resulting scrutiny?

Have you thought that maybe there is a core group of fans and powerbrokers that would like to stick with developing a side rather than buying a side?

If it does go through (not sure why), will you regard it as a failure if you don't win a premiership within 2 years after purchasing all these players?

Thanks! :cool::D
 

thommo4pm

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Some questions for you Bunniesman around this quote and your general values:


For what reasons, apart from a coach, would they join?

Understandably you want the best side possible, but realistically can you afford it?

Looking to the future, wouldn't it be better to develop juniors?

Losing Merritt would be like losing a son, is Nightingale and Boyd really worth it?

On the off chance you get them, how are you going to be able to retain your current core group of players like Burgess, Taylor, Sutton and co?

For what reasons would Bennett join?

Some part of you must be concerned about being seen as buying a premiership and it's resulting scrutiny?

Have you thought that maybe there is a core group of fans and powerbrokers that would like to stick with developing a side rather than buying a side?

If it does go through (not sure why), will you regard it as a failure if you don't win a premiership within 2 years after purchasing all these players?

Thanks! :cool::D

Mate it hasn't seem to have bothered many, if any, Souths fans that they just cut loose a player like Champion for someone like Inglis.
I don't think they'll cry over losing Merritt.
 

snoozer

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Which is correct, a b or c

A. Sir Wayne to Souths

B. Bunniesman taken to hospital to have the jizz pumped from his stomach

C. Souths make the top eight.
B would follow the occurrence of either A or C.

no actually i'm sure B has probably already happened after the arrival of the blimp at redfern.
 

BunniesMan

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For what reasons, apart from a coach, would they join?
Sources are that one or both of Boyd and Nightingale are really attached to the idea of playing under Bennett. Boyd has already moved states once to keep playing under Bennett, I'm sure moving up the road won't be a hassle.
Understandably you want the best side possible, but realistically can you afford it?
If I was talking about adding Boyd and Nightingale to our current squad without dropping anyone, then questions of affordability would come onto it. But some players would move onto other clubs and others will be retired this year anyway, all of which opens up capspace.
Looking to the future, wouldn't it be better to develop juniors?
Noone is saying we're not developing juniors. Farrell, Roberts, Vaivai, Mansour, Mundine and Reynolds are all very good players that have been developed by us and that could have a future with us down the track.

Losing Merritt would be like losing a son, is Nightingale and Boyd really worth it?
I like Merritt as a person and as a player. But he already has played elsewhere once. In an ideal world we'd keep everybody. But it doesn't work like that. And if it came down to getting Boyd and Nightingale if we don't resign Merritt (along with Wesser's retirement) I would have no problem with that. IMO it would help us win and that's what matters most.

Winning is the #1 priority with daylight coming 2nd. And I'm a fan of my club before I am a fan of individual players and I'm all for the club making the necessary roster changes if it improves us on the field.
On the off chance you get them, how are you going to be able to retain your current core group of players like Burgess, Taylor, Sutton and co?
Long term backended contracts for 2013 and beyond like we did with Inglis and like what I believe we are about to do with Issac Luke. The cap should increase significantly after 2012 with the new tv deal and if we play our cards right we will play our cards right. An educated gamble.
For what reasons would Bennett join?
1)He's said already he's not interested in rebuilding projects *cough*cowboys*cough*. We have the talent to go all the way. If the attacking talent we have was combined with the brilliant defense he coaches, we would be unstoppable. We don't need to be rebuilt, we just need certain elements added to what we around have. Certain elements that he's an expert in.
2)Getting a 2nd record that will probably never be broken. The record of premierships with 3 different clubs.
3)Money is no issue, we would offer him a blank check.
4)He would have an oppurtunity of ending the premiership drought of the game's 2 most iconic teams. Ending a 31 year drought with the Dragons and aiming to end a 40 year drought with us would be yet another acheivement that will probably never be beaten.

Some part of you must be concerned about being seen as buying a premiership and it's resulting scrutiny?
If you mean cap cheating, I have faith that my club would never be stupid to even consider cheating the cap.
Have you thought that maybe there is a core group of fans and powerbrokers that would like to stick with developing a side rather than buying a side?
Fans are entitled to whatever opinion they want. As for the people who actually make the decisions in my club, I would hope that their first aim is to deliver premiership #21. And doing whatever it takes (legally) to do that. Usually that's a combinaiton of both buying what you need and developing what you already have, which is what we're doing and will continue to do.


If it does go through (not sure why), will you regard it as a failure if you don't win a premiership within 2 years after purchasing all these players?

Thanks!
IMO every year any team doesn't win the premiership is a failure for that team. In a competition as even as the NRL, almost everyone has a chance in March.
 
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Sources are that one or both of Boyd and Nightingale are really attached to the idea of playing under Bennett. Boyd has already moved states once to keep playing under Bennett, I'm sure moving up the road won't be a hassle..
Where is this source apart from the far recesses of your puny brain?


I like Merritt as a person and as a player. But he already has played elsewhere once. In an ideal world we'd keep everybody. But it doesn't work like that. And if it came down to getting Boyd and Nightingale if we don't resign Merritt (along with Wesser's retirement) I would have no problem with that..
Spoken like a true bandwagon fan. You're proposing to get rid of Merritt, a local Redfern boy who has scored 92 tries in 134 games to secure players from another club who have not indicated in the slightest that their going anywhere.
IMO it would help us win and that's what matters most..
Nightingale is a winger, a very good winger but still a winger with a strike rate of scoring tries less than that of the player you want to discard. Proves beyond doubt that you know nothing about the game.
3)Money is no issue, we would offer him a blank check..
How much money do you think Russell has? You know nothing about sport or business. Russell cannot keep dolling out money endlessly.


IMO every year any team doesn't win the premiership is a failure for that team. In a competition as even as the NRL, almost everyone has a chance in March.
Proof that you are a bandwagon souths and RL fan. Also proof that you are severely lacking in every department neccesary to be a functional human being. f**k off back to the AFL gimp.
 

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AlwaysGreen, notice the difference between Spanner in the works's post and your post. Maybe you'll realise why I chose to reply to him but am choosing to ignore your BS.
 

thommo4pm

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Sources are that one or both of Boyd and Nightingale are really attached to the idea of playing under Bennett. Boyd has already moved states once to keep playing under Bennett, I'm sure moving up the road won't be a hassle.
If I was talking about adding Boyd and Nightingale to our current squad without dropping anyone, then questions of affordability would come onto it. But some players would move onto other clubs and others will be retired this year anyway, all of which opens up capspace.
Noone is saying we're not developing juniors. Farrell, Roberts, Vaivai, Mansour, Mundine and Reynolds are all very good players that have been developed by us and that could have a future with us down the track.

I like Merritt as a person and as a player. But he already has played elsewhere once. In an ideal world we'd keep everybody. But it doesn't work like that. And if it came down to getting Boyd and Nightingale if we don't resign Merritt (along with Wesser's retirement) I would have no problem with that. IMO it would help us win and that's what matters most.

Winning is the #1 priority with daylight coming 2nd. And I'm a fan of my club before I am a fan of individual players and I'm all for the club making the necessary roster changes if it improves us on the field.
Long term backended contracts for 2013 and beyond like we did with Inglis and like what I believe we are about to do with Issac Luke. The cap should increase significantly after 2012 with the new tv deal and if we play our cards right we will play our cards right. An educated gamble.
1)He's said already he's not interested in rebuilding projects *cough*cowboys*cough*. We have the talent to go all the way. If the attacking talent we have was combined with the brilliant defense he coaches, we would be unstoppable. We don't need to be rebuilt, we just need certain elements added to what we around have. Certain elements that he's an expert in.
2)Getting a 2nd record that will probably never be broken. The record of premierships with 3 different clubs.
3)Money is no issue, we would offer him a blank check.
4)He would have an oppurtunity of ending the premiership drought of the game's 2 most iconic teams. Ending a 31 year drought with the Dragons and aiming to end a 40 year drought with us would be yet another acheivement that will probably never be beaten.

If you mean cap cheating, I have faith that my club would never be stupid to even consider cheating the cap.
Fans are entitled to whatever opinion they want. As for the people who actually make the decisions in my club, I would hope that their first aim is to deliver premiership #21. And doing whatever it takes (legally) to do that. Usually that's a combinaiton of both buying what you need and developing what you already have, which is what we're doing and will continue to do.


IMO every year any team doesn't win the premiership is a failure for that team. In a competition as even as the NRL, almost everyone has a chance in March.

Tell us about the development work Souths have done with Mundine?
Could have sworn he was with us for quite a few years before going across to Souths last year. But no doubt you are right and I'm not.
 

BunniesMan

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Tell us about the development work Souths have done with Mundine?
Could have sworn he was with us for quite a few years before going across to Souths last year. But no doubt you are right and I'm not.
Oh please. He was a fat lump when we got him from you. We turned him into one of the best players of the toyota cup last year and we've turned him into a bloke hungry for 1st grade success. He'll be our #6 if we're unable to keep Sutton.

He has star potential and if he stayed with the Dragons he wouldn't be anywhere near the level he's at now.
 
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Oh please. He was a fat lump when we got him from you. We turned him into one of the best players of the toyota cup last year and we've turned him into a bloke hungry for 1st grade success. He'll be our #6 if we're unable to keep Sutton.

He has star potential and if he stayed with the Dragons he wouldn't be anywhere near the level he's at now.

Because Bennett would be his coach?
 
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So would you punt Soward or Young for Mundine? He's a 6 or a 13 and he'd be behind those two for the forseeable future. If he stayed with the Dragons. His career would go nowhere.

Funny, Young played a lot more hooker last season. Did you watch any games?

Kyle Stanley is a centre, 5/8 or fullback. He's behind Cooper, Soward and Boyd (despite your thoughts on where he's going - has nothing to do with it). It doesn't mean we're not developing him into a top class footballer. If he's good enough we'll make room for him in our top 17. Bennett estasblished Mundine wasn't. The same coach that would (not) be coaching him in First Grade if he goes to Souths next season (Which was my original point, but you seemed to miss that. Again).
 
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InThatNumber

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I think it's a fair call to say Souths have developed him into a player hungry for first grade success... but being hungry at Souths and hungry at Saints are two vastly different things... Success at Souths is avoiding the spoon.. Success at Saints means finals appearances and premierships (like 2010) BIG difference...
 

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