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We dead set stank - but Steve Clark is a *goose*.....,

Ron Jeremy

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Forget it!!!!!, it looks stupid putting alot of the blame onto him.

In all honesty the Warriors struggled just as much with with as we did.
 

strider

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I don't give a shit if the penalty count ended up 10/9.....fact is the start of the game was dominated by a lopsided penalty count to the Warriors and it gave them the kick start to get on a role and put us on the back foot.
 

Ron Jeremy

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We'll maybe if we could tackle those try's wouldn't have been scored :roll:

They where soft!!!

Stop it already with the blame, you sound like a pom!
 

The Godfather

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Iafeta said:
Which was correctly ruled no try. A quick definition for you, you must HAVE the ball with downward pressure to get a try; dropping the ball is no good.

Another quick definition for you...where there is doubt, benefit goes to the ATTACKING team.

There was no conclusive replay that clearly showed that the ball was dropped. Despite showing different angles, slowed at different speeds, there was no replay that showed the ball was clearly dropped. That is why if there is any doubt if the ball was dropped (and there was plenty), the advantage is given to the attacking team, because the cameras may not be in the best position to see the action.

And even the biased SKY commentators conceeded that it was a Parramatta try...all we needed was a video ref to have some intelligence.
 

ozbash

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my eyesights not that shit hot but even i could see bob dropped it.

clarks always going to be an idiot, that try he called back fron vinnies intercept was a fair try,
bobs 2nd try ? was a no try, touched the corner post before he grounded it.

reporting henry for tackling bob was downright stupid.

stapleton should have been binned for the crap he gave feka in that tackle- hope the clown is sore this morning.

get over it eels.
 

Dr Crane

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bobs 2nd try ? was a no try, touched the corner post before he grounded it

Not to mention there was no advantage from when Parra lost the ball to when it was stripped from Webb.
 

Misty Bee

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Ozbash, now you are off the grog, care to redo that statement? Peterson touched down before the corner post went, or are you a bit woolblind this morning?

Funniest call was the Pearson flop penalty when he was first man in!

In reality, whinging at the ref in this case is utterly stupid. It only invites sore winners. Fact is, if we were a decent team, we would have beaten the ref AND the Warriors, who gave us more ball than Cassanova in a brothel. We've won when the ref was bad before. Should have happened again tonight.

Full credit for NZ for their win - they were the better side on the night!
 

Rylesy

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Misty Bee said:
If Clarke was so bad re Parra, where was our captain in pleading our case?

Daniel Wagon = failure. :evil:

I agree there, WAGON is a horrible Captain....... He does nothing.
 

SpaceMonkey

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AlexTheEel said:
Peterson still had downward pressure. At no time was there ever day light between the football and his hands. Also Brent Webb didn't knock the ball on he had it stripped, therefore advantage is over.
Agree about the Webb strip, I was wondering about advantage at first but the replay showed it was a strip, not a knock-on.
Disagree about the Peterson no-try, Ithought the replay clearly showed he had lost control by the point the ball hit the ground.
 

Anonymous

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Also Brent Webb didn't knock the ball on he had it stripped, therefore advantage is over

LOL, did you just make that rule up?? Advantage is advantage. Webb picked up a knock on which came from a forward pass, and immediately had it stripped. How the hell is that an advantage?? That entire try was a joke because it was also about 70/30 that he had hit the corner post before getting the ball down.

And even the biased SKY commentators conceeded that it was a Parramatta try...all we needed was a video ref to have some intelligence.

The commentators, mostly due to their stupidity, gave your boys more than a fair go. Infact a lot of the time they seemed to be favouring Parra. In the second half in particular Costigan was complaining about calls going against the Eels, when if he had bothered to listen to the referee and watched the replay, he would've seen that the calls were correct. For example, there were 2 occasions where a Warriors player attempted to strip the ball, and a knock-on was called against the Eels. Costigan pissed and moaned about these decisions as if he was a Parra fan from way back, but on both occasions the replay proved that the Warriors player had ripped the ball back one on one, and the Eels player had then knocked it forward trying to regather.
 

Iafeta

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AlexTheEel said:
Peterson still had downward pressure. At no time was there ever day light between the football and his hands. Also Brent Webb didn't knock the ball on he had it stripped, therefore advantage is over.

Should I explain it one more time, on both counts. Listen, you might learn. I don't want to have to explain it again though okay?

When you DROP the ball, you do not have downward pressure. He HAD lost control before the ball got to the ground. I have a 107cm TV and I can you there was a considerable gap between his hand and the ball BEFORE it hit the ground.

Secondly, how the heck is that advantage? So it was a strip, not a knock on. What if it was a head high tackle not picked up, is that still advantage. Give it a rest! There is no advantage running the ball in the rain out from your own goal line with a staggered defence. Its different if he's 10 metres out from your line, as with the Peterson bombed try. Peterson got an advantage because there was a clear chance of him scoring a try. Was Webb going to go 90 metres in the rain? Give yourself a triple mate.

By the way, on the so called refereeing, another thing that shows up plain as day on a big screen TV is the fact Corey Pearson doesn't know how to play the ball properly. There was at least 5 play the balls from him where he did not get close to touching the ball with his foot. Unbelievable.
 

AlexTheEel

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Mate I got a bigger TV than that and I did not at any stage see day light between Petersons hand and the ball.

If Webb would have thrown a pass that was intercepted woud the try have been dissallowed? No it wouldn't have. If Webb knocked on he may have got advantage, but as he had the ball stripped one on one he gets nothing.
 

sportive cupid

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I saw nothing of this game so I am not going to comment directly on the performance of the ref or the team,BUT.. I feel that some people are mixing up cheating /bias with incompetence.These two things are different and should be dealt with differently Do you seriously think Steve Clark is against the Eels? If so why? and where is your evidence :roll:
 

Iafeta

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AlexTheEel said:
Mate I got a bigger TV than that and I did not at any stage see day light between Petersons hand and the ball.

If Webb would have thrown a pass that was intercepted woud the try have been dissallowed? No it wouldn't have. If Webb knocked on he may have got advantage, but as he had the ball stripped one on one he gets nothing.

The second point, it should have.

Explain to me the advantage the Warriors get from it? That sort of philosophy demands players then if there's an error from the opponents attacking the line to kick it dead, simply because if he drops it after a difficult pick up in his own 10 he's apparently according to your logics had advantage? Yep, under the sticks I'm sure the Warriors were absolutely thrilled with the advantage they got.

Why should avantage be a disallowed notion as a result of a strip as opposed to a knock on? You can't reward a team for a good play, after an error. The ERROR has come first. Your logics astound me.

As for Peterson's, get a tape, watch closely, you'll even see the one part of the hand holding the ball near the end (the tip of his thumbs), come well apart from the ball. While you're at it, watch Pearson's play of the ball throughout the game, and come back to me with a percentage on how many times his foot gets CLOSE to making contact. I'd estimate 25% at best.
 

AlexTheEel

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its not my lgoics is the rules.

I never had an argument with Pearson. I saw plenty of time when he didn't play it correctly. News Flash: Most players dont play the ball correctly these days.
 

Nikki

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Whilst Clarke didnt cost us the game, he did everything in his power to give us a hard time. Listen, Im not making excuses for the boys. Its time they stood up and took account of themselves, but there were a few things against us last night. First and foremost, in my mind, would be Clarke. I think he has already been dropped once this season, p*ss him off again. Two, the attrocious weather conditions over there. We just arent used to playin in weather like that. Warriors probably train regularly in it. Straight up, they get the advantage. And three, the players themselves. There were honestly a couple of times last night where I just didnt see any urgency what-so-ever in there game. Dissapointing. yes. Maybe they went over there with a mind set that the Warriors would be easy beats. Unfortunately we will probably come home ourselves with the easy beats tag :( But hopefully the win by the Warriors just might be the kick up the pants these boys need. We need a few team changes to take on the Roosters tho. Dont know who exactly, but we need another shake up.
 

Glenn

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Ozbash, well you have better eyes than your own kiwi mates at SKY

Clark got the call with Vinnie offside right (I don't know how)

They try to SSB, fair try he grounded the ball first

Report..well these things happen for cheap shots, I thought the ss would know this.

The dummy spit late in the game...hmmmm what happend to the NRL crack down on fighting
 

Eelementary

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Iafeta said:
AlexTheEel said:
Mate I got a bigger TV than that and I did not at any stage see day light between Petersons hand and the ball.

If Webb would have thrown a pass that was intercepted woud the try have been dissallowed? No it wouldn't have. If Webb knocked on he may have got advantage, but as he had the ball stripped one on one he gets nothing.

The second point, it should have.

Explain to me the advantage the Warriors get from it? That sort of philosophy demands players then if there's an error from the opponents attacking the line to kick it dead, simply because if he drops it after a difficult pick up in his own 10 he's apparently according to your logics had advantage? Yep, under the sticks I'm sure the Warriors were absolutely thrilled with the advantage they got.

Why should avantage be a disallowed notion as a result of a strip as opposed to a knock on? You can't reward a team for a good play, after an error. The ERROR has come first. Your logics astound me.

As for Peterson's, get a tape, watch closely, you'll even see the one part of the hand holding the ball near the end (the tip of his thumbs), come well apart from the ball. While you're at it, watch Pearson's play of the ball throughout the game, and come back to me with a percentage on how many times his foot gets CLOSE to making contact. I'd estimate 25% at best.

God you're a fool.

It's a little thing called 'ball security'.

In a one-on-one strip, the onus is on the ball carrier not to get it stripped. Once it is stripped, there is no advantage unless it travels forward.
 

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