Gary Gutful
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It was just a flippant comment on your use of the terms ‘virtue signalling’ and ‘woke’.
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It was just a flippant comment on your use of the terms ‘virtue signalling’ and ‘woke’.
Surely they bring him back for a special appearance if we ever make a GF.
I may have over-reached on the analogy, but it seemed to me that the refs “truths” were different from everybody else’s, which is a current logical appeal adopted by the left, originally from, Foucault I think. Not to condemn it, but question whether it has global application in every event.
I think both teams played as well as each other. I don't feel a strong sense of injustice even though there were a few questionable decisions. We had our chances and didn't take them.
8 calls that left Eels fuming in cruel finals exit
NRL Finals 2021: Penrith Panthers edge out Parramatta Eels 8-6 in semi-final thriller in Mackay Parramatta’s season is over and the Eels are filthy with a series of decisions which buried their hopes. And the NRL is set to analyse on-field audio of key incidents to get to the bottom of their gripes. The NRL will study onfield referee audio as part of its investigation to try and determine if Penrith trainers acted in the spirit of the game when calling for play to stop to treat injuries on three separate occasions during Saturday night’s controversial 8-6 win over Parramatta. But despite outrage at a series of questionable tactics from the Panthers and dubious calls going against the Eels, NRL head of football Graham Annesley fired up on Sunday in defence of the under fire match officials: “I thought the referee (Ashley Klein) and the bunker controlled one of the most intense games of the season extremely well”. Annesley was adamant he was not dodging the controversy but giving match officials the respect of at least reviewing the match before making any judgments. “If we are wrong I will be prepared to say we are wrong,” Annesley said. “But I am just not prepared to say it yet.” But Brad Arthur certainly didn’t hold back with his explosive post-match comments that Ivan Cleary’s previous rant about Wayne Bennett the week earlier had on this occasion delivered the Panthers “what they were after”. Arthur was understandably upset at a lopsided 7-2 penalty count that went against his team, while some crucial calls marred what was otherwise rated the match of the season. These included: Three times Penrith trainers called for play to stop when Parramatta was on the attack and had momentum. * Will Smith called for high tackle in 40th minute, when he hits the chest/shoulder – Nathan Cleary kicks penalty goal. * Clint Gutherson potentially stripped of the ball with three minutes to go _ no penalty or six again with Parramatta attacking the Panthers’ line. * Ray Stone passes backwards from dummy half _ called a knock on. * Mitchell Moses tackled by Jarome Luai without the ball on Eels line break _ no penalty. * Paul Momirovski potentially knocks on ensuing Blake Ferguson grubber _ ruled backwards. In particular, Luai’s interference on Moses was a blatant professional foul that should have resulted in a sin bin. How none of the match officials spotted it is laughable. Annesley said he had not had had a chance to closely review every individual incident we mentioned and that would be done on Monday. However, when told some of the calls were “howlers”, Annesley shot back: “We are kidding if we think that cost them the game”. He said from what he saw live the Gutherson and Stone calls “fall firmly into this category of controversial decisions, not necessarily wrong. Depending on which way you look at those you could say they were controversial but I’m not prepared to give them up at this stage because I haven’t had a chance to look at them more closely.” Told that sounded like a cop out, Annesley responded: “Well, it is not. It is the day after the game. “I have watched the game live like you. “But I can’t afford to jump to a conclusion without having a good close look at those things in replay because many of these things come down to a really close analysis. “And you know more than anyone, when we are wrong I’m prepared to say we are wrong.” The other issue that caused outrage involved the Penrith trainers’ stopping play on several occasions. The most crucial was late in the match when Penrith’s Mitch Kenny went down with a foot injury in back play. It seemed outrageous that the trainer called for time off given Kenny was nowhere near the play and the Eels were attacking Penrith’s tryline. Kenny then limped from the field with assistance and Ivan Cleary said in his media conference the injury could be serious. Annesley explained that the referee is caught between a rock and a hard place. “There is no way that can be a criticism of the referee,” Annesley said. “They don’t know whether a player needs immediate attention or not. “And they have to accept the judgment of the people whose job5g it is to determine if a player is seriously injured. “But that is why we review those things closely after and if we have to take action we do.” He added: “there is a history of game taking action when trainers unnecessarily the game. And we will definitely look at those.” Annesley agreed the match was one of the best game’s of the season: “That is why it is disappointing that again we jump straight to the referee. “You are fully entitled to say you think those things are wrong and I am not disputing your right to say that. “But equally you have to respect my right to say I want to look at them more closely before I cast a judgment.”
you don't need caps lock ..... i was pissing my knickers
Your self confessed 20 beers leads me to think your memory of the game might be less than photographic.
maybe independent trainers... even though refs are supposed to be independent.
If the officials call that correctly, we win the game. Simple as that.
8 calls that left Eels fuming in cruel finals exit
NRL Finals 2021: Penrith Panthers edge out Parramatta Eels 8-6 in semi-final thriller in Mackay Parramatta’s season is over and the Eels are filthy with a series of decisions which buried their hopes. And the NRL is set to analyse on-field audio of key incidents to get to the bottom of their gripes. The NRL will study onfield referee audio as part of its investigation to try and determine if Penrith trainers acted in the spirit of the game when calling for play to stop to treat injuries on three separate occasions during Saturday night’s controversial 8-6 win over Parramatta. But despite outrage at a series of questionable tactics from the Panthers and dubious calls going against the Eels, NRL head of football Graham Annesley fired up on Sunday in defence of the under fire match officials: “I thought the referee (Ashley Klein) and the bunker controlled one of the most intense games of the season extremely well”. Annesley was adamant he was not dodging the controversy but giving match officials the respect of at least reviewing the match before making any judgments. “If we are wrong I will be prepared to say we are wrong,” Annesley said. “But I am just not prepared to say it yet.” But Brad Arthur certainly didn’t hold back with his explosive post-match comments that Ivan Cleary’s previous rant about Wayne Bennett the week earlier had on this occasion delivered the Panthers “what they were after”. Arthur was understandably upset at a lopsided 7-2 penalty count that went against his team, while some crucial calls marred what was otherwise rated the match of the season. These included: Three times Penrith trainers called for play to stop when Parramatta was on the attack and had momentum. * Will Smith called for high tackle in 40th minute, when he hits the chest/shoulder – Nathan Cleary kicks penalty goal. * Clint Gutherson potentially stripped of the ball with three minutes to go _ no penalty or six again with Parramatta attacking the Panthers’ line. * Ray Stone passes backwards from dummy half _ called a knock on. * Mitchell Moses tackled by Jarome Luai without the ball on Eels line break _ no penalty. * Paul Momirovski potentially knocks on ensuing Blake Ferguson grubber _ ruled backwards. In particular, Luai’s interference on Moses was a blatant professional foul that should have resulted in a sin bin. How none of the match officials spotted it is laughable. Annesley said he had not had had a chance to closely review every individual incident we mentioned and that would be done on Monday. However, when told some of the calls were “howlers”, Annesley shot back: “We are kidding if we think that cost them the game”. He said from what he saw live the Gutherson and Stone calls “fall firmly into this category of controversial decisions, not necessarily wrong. Depending on which way you look at those you could say they were controversial but I’m not prepared to give them up at this stage because I haven’t had a chance to look at them more closely.” Told that sounded like a cop out, Annesley responded: “Well, it is not. It is the day after the game. “I have watched the game live like you. “But I can’t afford to jump to a conclusion without having a good close look at those things in replay because many of these things come down to a really close analysis. “And you know more than anyone, when we are wrong I’m prepared to say we are wrong.” The other issue that caused outrage involved the Penrith trainers’ stopping play on several occasions. The most crucial was late in the match when Penrith’s Mitch Kenny went down with a foot injury in back play. It seemed outrageous that the trainer called for time off given Kenny was nowhere near the play and the Eels were attacking Penrith’s tryline. Kenny then limped from the field with assistance and Ivan Cleary said in his media conference the injury could be serious. Annesley explained that the referee is caught between a rock and a hard place. “There is no way that can be a criticism of the referee,” Annesley said. “They don’t know whether a player needs immediate attention or not. “And they have to accept the judgment of the people whose job5g it is to determine if a player is seriously injured. “But that is why we review those things closely after and if we have to take action we do.” He added: “there is a history of game taking action when trainers unnecessarily the game. And we will definitely look at those.” Annesley agreed the match was one of the best game’s of the season: “That is why it is disappointing that again we jump straight to the referee. “You are fully entitled to say you think those things are wrong and I am not disputing your right to say that. “But equally you have to respect my right to say I want to look at them more closely before I cast a judgment.”
Thats fair.Your self confessed 20 beers leads me to think your memory of the game might be less than photographic.
Fairly sure it was Naden who tackles Penisini also knocked it on.
