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Yes, pretty much where I sat for the entire 1990s.
What will the club look like in 10 years from now?

I'm interested to see how long they remain "The Dolphins". If they go back to being "Redcliffe Dolphins" then their fanbase won't grow. They could become the "Moreton Bay Dolphins", but that would make it hard to attract fans from Sunshine Coast.
 

Iamback

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Didn’t realise they owned the stadium too

that leaves open one day development around the ground like the sharks

a purpose built 30k ground in redcliffe would be perfect for the club and they could play the other qld teams at Suncorp if required

if they played most of their games at a redeveloped redcliffe that would be better than Suncorp

Another reason they were the best choice to come in
 

Stewbum

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What will the club look like in 10 years from now?

I'm interested to see how long they remain "The Dolphins". If they go back to being "Redcliffe Dolphins" then their fanbase won't grow. They could become the "Moreton Bay Dolphins", but that would make it hard to attract fans from Sunshine Coast.
"The Bulldogs" did the same didn't they. Collect some fans, then rename I say.

I miss the terraced Western Hill.
 
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"The Bulldogs" did the same didn't they. Collect some fans, then rename I say.

I miss the terraced Western Hill.
Let's hope they don't try to copy the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks by calling themselves Redcliffe-Moreton Bay Dolphins.

A few years back the Seagulls called their BRL club the Wynnum Manly Redland City Seagulls.
 

Perth Red

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Collingwood is the biggest sporting club in Australia and has more members then some overseas clubs, yet the suburb is home to only 8000 people.

It matters for shit what your clubs name is.
It matters where you play and how you market though.
Collingwoods fanbase has evolved over 131 years of Melbourne popualtion spreading out. if they were a new club now and called themselves Collingwood do you think people 40kms away would follow them?
 

MugaB

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It matters where you play and how you market though.
Collingwoods fanbase has evolved over 131 years of Melbourne popualtion spreading out. if they were a new club now and called themselves Collingwood do you think people 40kms away would follow them?
So whats the difference between parramatta or redcliffe or manly-warringah, all clubs have been around since 1947... its just the media propping up parra and manly in the premier league over redcliffe in the brl/qrl, has absolutely no difference tho to Collingwood as a brand... its all branding has nothing to do with geography.. its why souths are doing well playing at homebush, even tho they are based in redfern
 

Wb1234

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So whats the difference between parramatta or redcliffe or manly-warringah, all clubs have been around since 1947... its just the media propping up parra and manly in the premier league over redcliffe in the brl/qrl, has absolutely no difference tho to Collingwood as a brand... its all branding has nothing to do with geography.. its why souths are doing well playing at homebush, even tho they are based in redfern
Imagine being able to add a club to your comp which has the following

1. 75 years of history
2. One hundred million in assets
3. Is in a major growth coridoor in an state where they love the sport
4. Commitment to spend 2 million a year on juniors

and the funny thing is they had competition with another club with 40 million in assets

someone posted today they’ve just signed up dairy farmers and someone else as new sponsors
 
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Collingwood is the biggest sporting club in Australia and has more members then some overseas clubs, yet the suburb is home to only 8000 people.

It matters for shit what your clubs name is.

West Coast Eagles - the most profitable sports club in Australia

John Stensholt Former Rich Editor
Mar 11, 2018 – 11.45pm

West Coast Eagles are the most profitable sports club in Australia, an analysis of the financial reports of the teams in the big codes reveals.

The financial accounts the club recently lodged with the corporate regulator for the year to October 2017 show the club Eagles made an operating surplus of almost $5.4 million last year from $64 million revenue.

Though that surplus was down from $6 million in the previous year, the Eagles balance sheet is surely the strongest in the AFL and across any sports code.

The only AFL club to get near the Eagles in the profit stakes was Essendon. The Bombers recorded a profit of slightly more than $5 million but their revenue included about $3.97 million in donations from supporters via the Australian Sports Foundation.

AFL clubs combined for $24.5 million from slightly more than $1 billion revenue, the annual reports show. The club profits included a $5.27 million profit for St Kilda, though that included $8 million in revenue for its Moorabbin training ground revamp.

Most NRL clubs recorded losses last year, with the notable exception of the ASX-listed Brisbane Broncos, which made a $2.75 million net profit from $46.5 million revenue. In rugby union, the ACT Brumbies made a small $14,361 profit in 2017 and the Queensland Reds a $22,263 surplus.

Market control

The financial statements of the 18 AFL clubs reveal all sorts of interesting morsels, such as 2017 grand final winner Richmond having a cash balance of almost $10 million and derived $8.6 million from its Aligned Leisure community health and fitness centre management business.
Meanwhile, the combined $48 million the GWS Giants and Gold Coast Suns received in AFL distributions last year is almost equal the $50 million administrators say having the two expansion teams in the competition is worth in additional broadcast revenue annually.

Operating in a football-mad market in Perth, and with only cross-town rivals Fremantle to compete with locally, is clearly an advantage for West Coast. But the club still has made big profits year after year while paying $137 million in the West Australian Football Commission in dividends and rent since being founded in 1987.

So strong has the financial performance of the Eagles been that the club has accumulated $21.8 million in cash on its balance sheet and another $42 million of fixed interest and equity investments.
The twist compared with most other clubs, though, is that the Eagles are about to spend a chunk of their money on the big move into their new training and administration facilities this time next year.
West Coast is shifting its headquarters to a $61.5 new facility at Lathlain Park, seven kilometres south-east of the Perth CBD, which will include training facilities, a community hub and space for the Wirrpanda Foundation, founded by former Eagles player David Wirrpanda, and the local Perth football club.

Long-term security

Eagles chief executive Trevor Nisbett says the club is contributing $35 million to the project, believed to be the biggest spend by a sports club given many clubs' facilities are usually built with government money in conjunction with community and other sports organisations.

"It's a project that we've probably been working on for a good 20 years," Nisbett says. "It will certainly secure the club for the long term and we're very grateful for state and federal government and other support for it. So the next thing for us will be looking for some support of the benefactors out there that are supporters of the club."

The Eagles have launched a fundraising campaign for about $8 million via the sports foundation, donations for which are tax-deductible. Nisbett believes raising the sum will ensure the Eagles are "future-proofed" in a financial sense after their $35 million Lathlain spend.

In the nearer term, though, is the move this season to the new 60,000 capacity Perth Stadium (Optus has the naming rights to the venue) along with Fremantle.
An agreement for the move was only struck in October and protracted negotiations with the state government and the venue operators.

The Eagles have about 50,000 seated members at the stadium and there is another 1385 stadium members aligned with the club, leaving about 8000 tickets for general sale each home game Nisbet says.

"It's an exciting period for our members, corporate supporters and sponsors and the like. But it's been frustrating and we're still getting in touch with prospective members. We didn't have much time to be organised and we're still dealing with things such as restricted views in some seats. But it should end up being significantly better off there in the future."
That means, according to Nisbett, the Eagles should be – after a likely dip this season due to some up-front moving costs – at least no worse off from the move. Which should mean those huge profits continue to flow to the Eagles for many years to come yet.

John Stensholt is a former editor of the BRW Rich 200 and Young Rich Lists.

 

Perth Red

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So whats the difference between parramatta or redcliffe or manly-warringah, all clubs have been around since 1947... its just the media propping up parra and manly in the premier league over redcliffe in the brl/qrl, has absolutely no difference tho to Collingwood as a brand... its all branding has nothing to do with geography.. its why souths are doing well playing at homebush, even tho they are based in redfern
No difference between manly and Redcliffe, but does the comp need another small club like manly?

parra are a big club as they have a large population within a 20km of a state of the art stadium that fans can easily get to from right around that radius.

souths are like Collingwood. Over a century people from their traditional area have spread out right across the city and generations of fans have been born and moved around. If souths or Collingwood were admitted to their comps this season calling themselves that would see them appeal to a very small fanbase.

even if dolphins call themselves Moreton bay dolphins to try and connect with the 500k people,in that region Redcliffe is 40km from the edge of that area and Suncorp is 40km from redcliffe region of that area. There in may lay the problem if they don’t appeal to people within a 25km radius of suncorp. Time will tell. There may well be tens of thousand of active rl fans around Suncorp waiting for a team, any team. We shall see.
 

Perth Red

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and the funny thing is they had competition with another club with 40 million in assets
Not like Wb to be wrong lol

With the backing of Easts Tigers, current feeder club to the Melbourne Storm in the Queensland Cup, the Firehawks have $80 million worth of assets and $25 million in cash reserves, which meets the NRL’s requirement for a $10 million bank guarantee. The club is also set to begin construction on a $7.5 million excellence centre in October.
 

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