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Das Hassler

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He was a solid prop for sure. Everything about him was black and gold. He played over 11 seasons and a club captain too.
I'm pretty sure he was a red nut???
It's a shame his name will be noted for this squabble rather than his Tigers career.

Ahh it's just how it goes. ...can't blame him for trying to save a club that's part of his very being but there comes a time where you just have to slide across to the passenger seat of whatever you've been driving well for 50 or 60 years
 

Vic Mackey

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Your mob seem more attractive to signings than my mob. It’s like pulling teeth to get anyone onboard with the Dragons.

Hey mate all the best on the weekend. Just wondering your thoughts on the Damien Cook signing? Seems a weird one to me. Cooks really only asset is speed and now at 33 isnt what it used to be. Coming through Jacob Liddle was compared to him. Very similar players yet Lids is 5 years younger and probably on half the pay packet. Personally thought Jake had been pretty good for you guys?
 

Nutz

First Grade
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Ahh it's just how it goes. ...can't blame him for trying to save a club that's part of his very being but there comes a time where you just have to slide across to the passenger seat of whatever you've been driving well for 50 or 60 years
Exactly mate.
In our case we chose Balmain or Western Suburbs as our team. I don't know about you but I was quiet distraught when we became a joint venture.
The blow was softened by the fact that we were called Wests for the Magpies supporters and Tigers for the Balmain supporters.
By the time 05 rolled around I was all but a fully fledged Wests Tigers supporter but it was signed, sealed and delivered when we were crowned Premiers that year.
We've ensdured a lot of pain and ridicule since then and to make us go through it all again would be scandalous and criminal. Why criminal..."they would've stolen our Soul"
 

Das Hassler

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Exactly mate.
In our case we chose Balmain or Western Suburbs as our team. I don't know about you but I was quiet distraught when we became a joint venture.
The blow was softened by the fact that we were called Wests for the Magpies supporters and Tigers for the Balmain supporters.
By the time 05 rolled around I was all but a fully fledged Wests Tigers supporter but it was signed, sealed and delivered when we were crowned Premiers that year.
We've ensdured a lot of pain and ridicule since then and to make us go through it all again would be scandalous and criminal. Why criminal..."they would've stolen our Soul"

Couldn't have said it better ! :)
 

Tigerm

Coach
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The club has since denied the story.
With HBG telling Barry O’Farrell that he needs to reapply for his job, I think something was said, but why was it said, is the question.
Something appears to be happening at the top and people are upset that promises have not been met.
It should not affect the footy team and hopefully sort it self out.
Onwards and upwards.
 

Fordy20

Juniors
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There are a couple of members on the new board members that are from the old board isn't there Fordy? How is that ethical?

It's not, but the problem is, no one will give a shit about the ownership and governance issues if the club continues to make progress on the field. That's what my concern is, that Wests Ashfield used the report as an excuse to turf the board and the CEO and aren't committed to fixing these issues that lead to us sucking for almost two decades.

It's wonderful that Richo has signed a four year contract to be the CEO and we appear to be going in the right direction. I'm trying to be optimistic and hoping that Barry is being asked to reapply for his job because people aren't satisfied with the movement on these governances and ownership issues, but the jaded and cynical side of me is saying that HBG never gave a shit about fixing them at all, that these issue will go unaddressed and come back to bit us on the arse when Richo moves on.
 

Nutz

First Grade
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It's not, but the problem is, no one will give a shit about the ownership and governance issues if the club continues to make progress on the field. That's what my concern is, that Wests Ashfield used the report as an excuse to turf the board and the CEO and aren't committed to fixing these issues that lead to us sucking for almost two decades.

It's wonderful that Richo has signed a four year contract to be the CEO and we appear to be going in the right direction. I'm trying to be optimistic and hoping that Barry is being asked to reapply for his job because people aren't satisfied with the movement on these governances and ownership issues, but the jaded and cynical side of me is saying that HBG never gave a shit about fixing them at all, that these issue will go unaddressed and come back to bit us on the arse when Richo moves on.
Good read.
Off topic a bit, but am I the only one concerned about Richo's health.
He loves what most of us like, a beer and a good feed.
Judging by his physique, age and job stress he should be concerned about his ticker.
I hope he's getting some good health advice.
I've been through it all and I've learnt the hard way that the heart is a pretty important piece of kit ;)
 

Nutz

First Grade
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I've given them both up. I've never felt better.
Me too, getting pissed that is, but more for medical reasons. I just have my 3 stubbles once a week while watching the games.
I've forgotten what a hangover feel like. Gee you save a bit of coin too hey.
Hope you haven't given up eating altogether Tiger :)
 

gordsy

Juniors
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Also...if Elias is genuine that he's all in on helping strengthen and progressing WT then I'll support his involvement even if there's something in it for him...there's something in it for most of the rest of them anyway...ego gratification!
I think the closest Benny should Involved with the club is from his new home base, on the sun...
 
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RedVee

First Grade
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Hey mate all the best on the weekend. Just wondering your thoughts on the Damien Cook signing? Seems a weird one to me. Cooks really only asset is speed and now at 33 isnt what it used to be. Coming through Jacob Liddle was compared to him. Very similar players yet Lids is 5 years younger and probably on half the pay packet. Personally thought Jake had been pretty good for you guys?
Thanks mate, I have my fingers crossed for tomorrow.

Liddle has been very good but his one weakness is he drops away when asked to play the full 80mins. I think that is why we went for Cooky. Plus he will take a leadership role on field in the spine and off field as well. We can do with another example of professionalism for the younger guys. Our younger 9s coming through are supposedly another 2 years away, they can learn from Cooke and Lidds both.
 

Fordy20

Juniors
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Thanks mate, I have my fingers crossed for tomorrow.

Liddle has been very good but his one weakness is he drops away when asked to play the full 80mins. I think that is why we went for Cooky. Plus he will take a leadership role on field in the spine and off field as well. We can do with another example of professionalism for the younger guys. Our younger 9s coming through are supposedly another 2 years away, they can learn from Cooke and Lidds both.

I reckon it's a big ask to have an 80min hooker with the speed of the game at the moment.
 

Nutz

First Grade
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I've given them both up. I've never felt better.
Me too, getting pissed that is, but more for medical reasons. I just have my 3 stubbles once a week while watching the games.
I've forgotten what a hangover feel like. Gee you save a bit of coin too hey.
Hope you haven't given up eating altogether Tiger :)
Most of the bad stuff. I think junk food is my biggest drug. I hardly eat that crap now.
Good stuff.
 
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The club has since denied the story.
With HBG telling Barry O’Farrell that he needs to reapply for his job, I think something was said, but why was it said, is the question.
Something appears to be happening at the top and people are upset that promises have not been met.
It should not affect the footy team and hopefully sort it self out.
Onwards and upwards.
I think the HBG did an audit of their wine cellar and a few of the choicer reds were discovered missing around the same time Barry was in the building.
 

Tigerm

Coach
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‘Incompetent, Machiavellian, tin pots’: The explosive emails at heart of Tigers-Magpies feud​

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Someone is telling porkies, I think.
 

Ron's_Mate

Bench
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‘Incompetent, Machiavellian, tin pots’: The explosive emails at heart of Tigers-Magpies feud
By Michael Chammas
August 30, 2024 — 6.22pm

Balmain directors have described the Wests Tigers majority owner, Holman Barnes Group, as “incompetent”, “Machiavellian” and a “bunch of tin pots” in a series of private emails that threatens to tear apart the joint venture club.

After this masthead revealed on Thursday that at least one Balmain director, Garry Leo, wanted to immediately cease ties with the Western Suburbs side of the merger, this masthead has also obtained a confidential chain of emails between the Balmain directors which highlights the angst towards the HBG.

While Balmain chairman Danny Stapleton told News Corp on Thursday he had spoken to every single Balmain board member and that they had a “wonderful working relationship with Holman Barnes” and were “as solid as a rock”, the email correspondence during the past 48 hours sheds a different light on how other Balmain directors feel.

“It has been long enough to see the utter incompetence of our “so called” partners in running the WT (Wests Tigers) and why the club struggles to reach the heights it should have already achieved,” one director said to his fellow board members in an email sent at 3:59pm on Thursday, August 29.

“I fully understand the situation we found ourselves in and the lifeline given to us to remain alive BUT this does not justify the treatment and disdain shown to this board, the Balmain Tigers history and the importance of the Balmain Tigers fan base to the Wests Tigers success.”

The email chain, titled “Unbelievable CONFIDENTIAL”, was instigated after this masthead reported on Wednesday that interim Wests Tigers chairman Barry O’Farrell was being asked to reapply for his position and was considering walking away from the job as a result.

The news came as a surprise to the Balmain directors, who wanted answers from Stapleton – the Balmain representative on the Wests Tigers board – as to what was happening with HBG’s hesitation around the reappointment of O’Farrell.

“Someone needs to expose in full disclosure the Machiavellian behaviour of this so-called current wests tigers, wests Ashield (sic) dominated board,” another board member wrote on Thursday at 3.33pm.

“Who initiated the review? Them. But it is clear now as we all knew [that] the silent minority around that west Ashfield table were not happy!

“To eject our current chair and throw out the report findings (which is what west Ashfield is heading I think) is a disgrace and the wests Ashfield board should be answerable to the wests tigers members.”

When contacted on Friday about the email chain, Stapleton said: “This is highly confidential information.”

In response to his board’s concerns, Stapleton sent an email to Balmain directors as part of the chain saying: “the split on the Board is real and decisive” and that Balmain had “challenges on our hands with the unrest at HBG board level”. Stapleton also stated:

“My understanding, and I have not been told formally, is that the controlling faction at HBG Board now wants to unwind the outcomes and recommendations of the review process and take back the control and running of Wests Tigers.
“One would ask, that this is hard to believe and why we underwent the Review process in the first place.”
“Barry is the best person to Chair the Club through these times and his tenure should be extended without question. The club needs stability and credibility and Barry provides that in spades … I think it is a no brainer that Barry would be selected and given the independent chair role. In saying that HBG may have other ideas. I don’t know.”

Sources with knowledge of the situation talking on the condition of anonymity told this masthead that a high-ranking Wests Tigers official has recently approached the NRL with concerns over the decisions being made by the HBG.

There is a concern that the HBG will not follow through on the key recommendation of last year’s Crawford-Barnier report, which is the selection of four independent directors.

The directors were meant to be appointed by May, but a change of leadership on the HBG board has stalled the process. Julie Romero replaced Tony Andreacchio as chairman of the HBG, with the leadership resulting in a change of the shareholder-appointed directors on the Wests Tigers board in recent months.

O’Farrell and new Wests Tigers chief executive Shane Richardson – who Leo previously said was the biggest positive to come out of the review – had selected a recruitment firm to undertake the process of appointing four independent directors.

The job was handed to Jonathan Harris from Elevate Talent, who recommended the reappointment of O’Farrell as chair as well as the appointment of three independent directors (including two women).

The HBG, which is under new leadership after the previous powerbrokers were rolled at elections earlier in the year, suspended the process and are now trying to execute a deed that will outline the criteria required to appoint the four vacant independent director positions.

The approach to the NRL from a high-ranking Wests Tigers representative also raised concerns over rumours of a growing push to revive the Magpies brand at the expense of the Tigers despite a heritage deed prohibiting the club from doing so until at least 2030.

Tension between Balmain and the Holman Barnes Group escalated on Thursday night after Leo said he wanted the foundation club to remove itself from the joint venture in a bid to stand alone amid concerns over the running of the merged entity.

“I really believe the time has come for us to step aside and resurrect the Balmain Tigers,” Leo, who played for Balmain in the 1960s and ’70s, told this masthead from hospital, where he is recovering from a broken leg.

“We’ve got more of a following than the Wests side of the merger. To be honest, we have lost faith in them. We’re getting Leichhardt Oval upgraded and we could play there every second week. If we can find the right backers we want a shot at returning to the NRL.”

Balmain owns 10 per cent of the Wests Tigers, with the other 90 per cent owned by the Holman Barnes Group – of which 30 per cent is owned by the Western Suburbs Magpies.

HBG acquired 15 per cent of Balmain’s previous share in 2019 when it agreed to pay off Balmain’s $3.2 million debt to the NRL, handing Balmain its 10 per cent share without charge.

 

Nutz

First Grade
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‘Incompetent, Machiavellian, tin pots’: The explosive emails at heart of Tigers-Magpies feud
By Michael Chammas
August 30, 2024 — 6.22pm

Balmain directors have described the Wests Tigers majority owner, Holman Barnes Group, as “incompetent”, “Machiavellian” and a “bunch of tin pots” in a series of private emails that threatens to tear apart the joint venture club.

After this masthead revealed on Thursday that at least one Balmain director, Garry Leo, wanted to immediately cease ties with the Western Suburbs side of the merger, this masthead has also obtained a confidential chain of emails between the Balmain directors which highlights the angst towards the HBG.

While Balmain chairman Danny Stapleton told News Corp on Thursday he had spoken to every single Balmain board member and that they had a “wonderful working relationship with Holman Barnes” and were “as solid as a rock”, the email correspondence during the past 48 hours sheds a different light on how other Balmain directors feel.

“It has been long enough to see the utter incompetence of our “so called” partners in running the WT (Wests Tigers) and why the club struggles to reach the heights it should have already achieved,” one director said to his fellow board members in an email sent at 3:59pm on Thursday, August 29.

“I fully understand the situation we found ourselves in and the lifeline given to us to remain alive BUT this does not justify the treatment and disdain shown to this board, the Balmain Tigers history and the importance of the Balmain Tigers fan base to the Wests Tigers success.”

The email chain, titled “Unbelievable CONFIDENTIAL”, was instigated after this masthead reported on Wednesday that interim Wests Tigers chairman Barry O’Farrell was being asked to reapply for his position and was considering walking away from the job as a result.

The news came as a surprise to the Balmain directors, who wanted answers from Stapleton – the Balmain representative on the Wests Tigers board – as to what was happening with HBG’s hesitation around the reappointment of O’Farrell.

“Someone needs to expose in full disclosure the Machiavellian behaviour of this so-called current wests tigers, wests Ashield (sic) dominated board,” another board member wrote on Thursday at 3.33pm.

“Who initiated the review? Them. But it is clear now as we all knew [that] the silent minority around that west Ashfield table were not happy!

“To eject our current chair and throw out the report findings (which is what west Ashfield is heading I think) is a disgrace and the wests Ashfield board should be answerable to the wests tigers members.”

When contacted on Friday about the email chain, Stapleton said: “This is highly confidential information.”

In response to his board’s concerns, Stapleton sent an email to Balmain directors as part of the chain saying: “the split on the Board is real and decisive” and that Balmain had “challenges on our hands with the unrest at HBG board level”. Stapleton also stated:

“My understanding, and I have not been told formally, is that the controlling faction at HBG Board now wants to unwind the outcomes and recommendations of the review process and take back the control and running of Wests Tigers.
“One would ask, that this is hard to believe and why we underwent the Review process in the first place.”
“Barry is the best person to Chair the Club through these times and his tenure should be extended without question. The club needs stability and credibility and Barry provides that in spades … I think it is a no brainer that Barry would be selected and given the independent chair role. In saying that HBG may have other ideas. I don’t know.”

Sources with knowledge of the situation talking on the condition of anonymity told this masthead that a high-ranking Wests Tigers official has recently approached the NRL with concerns over the decisions being made by the HBG.

There is a concern that the HBG will not follow through on the key recommendation of last year’s Crawford-Barnier report, which is the selection of four independent directors.

The directors were meant to be appointed by May, but a change of leadership on the HBG board has stalled the process. Julie Romero replaced Tony Andreacchio as chairman of the HBG, with the leadership resulting in a change of the shareholder-appointed directors on the Wests Tigers board in recent months.

O’Farrell and new Wests Tigers chief executive Shane Richardson – who Leo previously said was the biggest positive to come out of the review – had selected a recruitment firm to undertake the process of appointing four independent directors.

The job was handed to Jonathan Harris from Elevate Talent, who recommended the reappointment of O’Farrell as chair as well as the appointment of three independent directors (including two women).

The HBG, which is under new leadership after the previous powerbrokers were rolled at elections earlier in the year, suspended the process and are now trying to execute a deed that will outline the criteria required to appoint the four vacant independent director positions.

The approach to the NRL from a high-ranking Wests Tigers representative also raised concerns over rumours of a growing push to revive the Magpies brand at the expense of the Tigers despite a heritage deed prohibiting the club from doing so until at least 2030.

Tension between Balmain and the Holman Barnes Group escalated on Thursday night after Leo said he wanted the foundation club to remove itself from the joint venture in a bid to stand alone amid concerns over the running of the merged entity.

“I really believe the time has come for us to step aside and resurrect the Balmain Tigers,” Leo, who played for Balmain in the 1960s and ’70s, told this masthead from hospital, where he is recovering from a broken leg.

“We’ve got more of a following than the Wests side of the merger. To be honest, we have lost faith in them. We’re getting Leichhardt Oval upgraded and we could play there every second week. If we can find the right backers we want a shot at returning to the NRL.”

Balmain owns 10 per cent of the Wests Tigers, with the other 90 per cent owned by the Holman Barnes Group – of which 30 per cent is owned by the Western Suburbs Magpies.

HBG acquired 15 per cent of Balmain’s previous share in 2019 when it agreed to pay off Balmain’s $3.2 million debt to the NRL, handing Balmain its 10 per cent share without charge.

Heck Doo, it's nearly nine o'clock and I only got a ¼ of a way thru that doc and felt my eyeballs doing laps...need to read this in the morning I think.
 

DJDL

First Grade
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Hmmm, I thought the press leaks stopped with Pascoe and Hagipantelis getting the boot.
Garry Leo seems to be the prime suspect this time around.

I feel for you guys, you don't need this shit being played out in the media.

Us Sharks fans were constantly copping kicks in the guts 15 years or so ago every time it looked like we were turning this around.
So I can relate.
No fun at all.
 

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