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AKA Das Hassler

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Here's the problem for WT moving forward in "black and white"...Dennis Burgess was made chairman of HBG earlier this year and on his HBG bio there appears this complete and short paragraph...

Dennis is passionate about Holman Barnes Group, and all aspects of Wests – its past, its present and its future.

The passion NOT mentioned is the problem for WT and it's fans
 
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Can the NRL force HBG to sell the WT’s? Or a majority stake at least?
I’m not sure.

I think they can revoke or put conditions on the licence.

But if that is too onerous, HBG could challenge it.

I’m not sure what the forensics are for the replacement circumstances for HBG.

The rebel forces are in favour of some kind of dramatic coup, emotions are running high, but it might be better to have a sturdy program of phasing HBG out.

It still amazes me that HBG went nuclear.

If I’m pulling strings at HBG and I’m unhappy with the independent directors, I’d hold a meeting to see if we can resolve the issues before moving to sack everyone.

Barry has suggested a civil war at HBG, which is interesting.
 
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We need a special Behind the Roar podcast with Barry O'Farrell. If we can't have that then one of the surviving members of that board like Dennis the menace to explain things answering members questions.
Yes, more info please.

But it could be grain of salt stuff. The secrecy in the club affairs is over the top.

We are at war. Everyone will push their own wheelbarrows.

That anti-HBG notice, it says “fans and members demand x “

Well no one asked me what I wanted.

I can speak for myself.

And when sweeping statements are made, HBG has the reason to query them.
 
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This Year?

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While the SL war ended almost 2 decades ago some of us are still paying the price for it, and will do so for the rest of our lives because 2 cannot become 1.
No matter how much we want it to work or want to please both sides one side will eventually win and the losing side just become another feeder club.
The NRL is happy to hand out licences to expansion areas without fixing 4 sets of fans who just hold onto nostalgia in hope of a better future, but in reality are watching a grave getting dug and are wondering if it's for them or the bloke standing next to them.
 
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The following was published in the last hour by the Sydney Morning Herald (source: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ri...wners-breaks-his-silence-20251204-p5nkq5.html) -

‘Richo call will be made on Monday’: Boss of Wests Tigers’ owners breaks his silence​

Adrian Proszenko

By Adrian Proszenko

December 4, 2025 — 12.07pm

There has been another bitter battle for control at Wests Tigers after the Holman Barnes Group (HBG), the Tigers’ 90 per cent shareholder, sacked four independent Wests Tigers directors, including chairman and former NSW premier Barry O’Farrell.

In his first sit-down interview, HBG chief executive Daniel Paton addresses all the big issues and reveals that a decision on the future of embattled Tigers chief executive Shane Richardson will be made on Monday.


Adrian Proszenko: There was the big announcement at the start of the week about the removal of the four independent directors. Can you talk us through that?

Daniel Paton: “The crux of the matter here is about the 90 per cent owner of Wests Tigers having a minority say on the board.

“Now, there’s an agreement between Wests Tigers and Holman Barnes Group where certain decisions that are made need to come back to the owner for approval. That simply hasn’t been happening.

“And I can give an example of that – the stadium policy around Leichhardt Oval. So the announcement was that Leichhardt Oval would be the home of Wests Tigers for the next 15 years. The Holman Barnes Group board only found out about that with 16,000 other fans at Leichhardt Oval. Which is really bad for business, and it’s quite embarrassing really ...

“As the majority owners, Holman Barnes Group is well within its rights to take back control of the board if there are concerns with governance. In order to take back control and have the ability to reconstitute the board, the only lever the Holman Barnes Group had to pull was to remove the four independent board members. The work done by the majority of the independent board members has been commendable, and we are in talks with some of those members as we work through what the new board looks like.”

AP: Will there be more changes, given that Tigers CEO Shane Richardson had aligned himself with the independent directors and was a vocal proponent thereof? Is his job now untenable?

DP: “We were supporting Shane from the outset. He’s come back and expressed that he’s got some things to think about, and Shane needs to make a decision now.”

AP: Do you believe that he’ll be at the helm of Wests Tigers for the start of next year?

DP: “We’ll respect his decision. That’s up to Shane, and he’ll come back to us.”

AP: It feels like everything is in limbo until we know whether he’s going to be the CEO of the Wests Tigers long term. Have you had discussions with him about a time frame as to when he will decide?

DP: “I’ve been in discussions with Shane … asking when he would come back with an answer. He responded that he’s still thinking about it but will come back with an answer on Monday … it really needs to be resolved sooner rather than later.”

AP: You talked about a lack of communication – and obviously the four independent directors are no longer there – what responsibility does Shane Richardson bear for that?

DP: “I think some of the decisions that were made, that should have come to the Holman Barnes Group for approval, certainly didn’t happen. And that’s coming from the CEO and the board.”

AP: Is there anything in the [ownership] agreement whereby certain actions taken by the football club have to come back to you either for ratification or to inform you of what’s going on?

DP: “That’s correct. In the agreement, there is a threshold limit that if transactions – let’s say transactions above a certain limit – need to come back to Holman Barnes Group for approval.”

AP: Such as player signings above a certain [financial] limit?

DP: “That’s correct.”

AP: And that hasn’t been happening.
DP: “Not that I’m aware of.”

AP: The narrative is that there has been some discontent about the jersey, that it contains too much Tiger and not enough Magpie. Is that the case?

DP: “The colours of the jersey have not come up at all as part of this process. I think that’s a rehash of some old narrative … this has been floating around for years. This is trivial, and to think this is a reason for Holman Barnes Group taking this decisive action is laughable.”

AP: The other thing that’s been discussed recently is this idea that there’s a push for Western Suburbs Magpies to take over, to push Balmain out of the joint venture. Is that the case?

DP: “That’s not the case at all. The Holman Barnes Group is fully supportive of Wests Tigers. There’s been no talk about bringing back the Magpies. Once again, I think that’s a narrative that’s been rehashed from a couple of years ago.”

AP: There’s no doubt the Holman Barnes Group has a good track record of managing clubs – but less so when it comes to football clubs. It’s been 14 years since the Tigers last finals appearance. Why should fans have any faith in the regime?

DP: “Well, that’s correct. And that’s what we’re hoping to rectify under Benji Marshall’s leadership. If the football operation can keep progressing as they have, they’re on the improve. We’d like to see us get back to playing finals football.”

AP: What do these changes mean for Benji Marshall?

DP: “Benji has got our full support. He’s an absolute club legend and we think he’s a great coach. We absolutely want him here for the long term.”

AP: ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys said he is concerned about what had transpired at board level and that he wanted the NRL to investigate. Are you concerned that head office is concerned?

DP: “I think because it’s a purely governance issue between the boards – and there is a current agreement in place with Holman Barnes Group and Wests Tigers – I don’t believe that NRL should be concerned over this.”

AP: Should they be concerned about the performance of Wests Tigers because obviously the two are tied together?

DP: “Like I said, we’re progressing in the right direction. So I think if the NRL looks at on-field performance as well as financial performance, then we should be heading towards the finals.”

AP: Is there still tension between Balmain and Western Suburbs, the two factions in the joint venture marriage?

DP: “In the past, there’s certainly been a lot of tension between Wests and Balmain. We’ve had the Balmain board meet with the Wests Ashfield board, and what’s been great is that I feel like we’re more unified than ever. For example, Wests Ashfield has made it clear to Balmain that we want them to be part of the joint venture.

“They retain their 10 per cent share in West Tigers, they retain their board seat in Wests Tigers. Wests Ashfield will continue to fund the Balmain Football Club and is now funding the Balmain District Juniors. So we’re very much committed to supporting Balmain and continuing on in the joint venture.”

AP: At some clubs, it’s pretty easy for the membership, if they are disgruntled, to affect change. For instance, at Canterbury, you only need to get about 110 signatures to force an extraordinary general meeting. Under the ownership structure with the Holman Barnes Group, and its relationship with Wests Tigers, there’s basically no lever to pull if you’re a disgruntled member or a fan. You need to be a debenture holder, and it’s all very tightly controlled. Can you understand their frustration in that they are seeing this [boardroom brawl], they are seeing a lack of performance on the field, and there is nothing they can do about it?

DP: “Absolutely, I can see the frustration … I’m a fan myself, but we are progressing in the right direction. With the right people in place at the football department, I think we will progress and continue to progress. On-field performance is everything, and that’s what we need to focus on.”

AP: Speaking of things on the field, two of your highest profile players, Jarome Luai and Jahream Bula, have yet to commit long term. They have clauses or options in their contracts in their favour, and it was suggested they were close to committing – until the latest developments. Are you concerned that they might slip through your fingers because of what’s transpired?

DP: “That’s a question for the football department. I haven’t seen the contracts, so I’m not aware of the clauses that we’re talking about. However, I do believe that they’re close to re-signing, and I’d like to think they would.”

AP: A protest march has been arranged. Are you concerned about disgruntled Wests Tigers fans making their presence felt and making their voices heard?

DP: “We understand the passion that fans have and we appreciate that this announcement has caused upset. We have no problem in fans making their voices heard, however marching to Wests Ashfield and potentially intimidating innocent staff members is not something we would condone and I would urge the organiser to rethink this action.”

AP: Should all the [feeder teams, such as NSW Cup, Jersey Flegg, etc] be playing under the Wests Tigers jersey, banner and logo, given it is supposedly one club?

DP: “That’s something for the new Wests Tigers board to start getting their head around and make decisions on.”

AP: What’s the position of the Holman Barnes Group on that?

“The Holman Barnes Group obviously has a number of teams under their umbrella, Wests Tigers and Wests Magpies being two of those, as well as the registered clubs. So we support all our teams.”

AP: Will the Holman Barnes Group now start sticking their beak into football, interfering and meddling in football matters?

DP: “No, it’s not for the Holman Barnes Group to get involved with football operations and player signings. But it is their responsibility to ensure that due diligence is done correctly around the selection of those players. So it’s just ensuring that governance and those systematic measures are in place.”

AP: You said yourself that the board structure hasn’t worked in the past. Now Wests Tigers fans are seeing more [boardroom] changes, and the football club hasn’t really improved significantly. Why should they believe you this time when you say you’re acting in their best interests and that it’s not about the individuals on the board?

DP: “That’s right, it has been a mess in the past. There’s been a clear disconnect between boards [and the] decision making that needed to happen. What’s different this time is that for the first time we’re seeing the Holman Barnes Group board, the Wests Magpies board, the Wests Tigers board and even the Balmain board being more unified than they ever have before.

“So the decision making should be more seamless now and allow the football department to do what they need to do with on-field success.”
 
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Cheers CA, the empire strikes back!

Between the lines, they aren’t pleased with some of our board members.

Richo odds of leaving are firming fast.

They arent exactly trying to keep him.

They’ve said it’s their way or the highway. A matter for him.

If they wanted to keep him, they would have been a lot more encouraging.
 

Tigerm

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At the end of the day, (while I loath HBG), they have sacked 4 independent board members, they will (need to) be replaced, and no doubt will be. This will cover the requirements of the last shitfight and the NRL.
So I'm not sure anyone can do anything about anything, when/if they do this.
Will be painful if we lost Richo, but not a death knell to the club. Same goes for Benji, and I'm not sure what coaches would be available at this late stage and would players would walk away, if we had a change?
I hope none of the above happens, but I think the most likely would be Richo going though.
 

AKA Das Hassler

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Here's a big give away..
(Quote)
"And I can give an example of that – the stadium policy around Leichhardt Oval. So the announcement was that Leichhardt Oval would be the home of Wests Tigers for the next 15 years.The Holman Barnes Group board only *found out about that with 16,000 other fans at Leichhardt Oval. Which is really bad for business, and it’s quite embarrassing really"
* not true

It's not THE home...it's A home. L.O. is not only iconic to Balmain but just as much iconic to the game of rugby league ...it's used as a publicity tool by CH 9 and FOX and there wouldn't be a top tier player who hasn't been asked many times what it's like to play there.
IMO here's the real L.O. issue for HBG...A packed house at LO being celebrated live by the broadcasters gives massive public perception equity to the Balmain side of the merger plus having the govt agree to upgrade the ground for a 15 year stay pretty much locks in WT as the franchise...no LO would make it immeasurably easier to revert back to the Magpies alone. As I've mentioned before...wests were my 2nd team but their last years in the Bigshow ( ending with a very whimpering spoon) didn't exactly scream administrative competence At least (for better or often worse) ...a significant number of former tigers have tried to at least contribute and be engaged with WT future...as far as I know from wests there's only been Tommy and John Skandalis. Alone either club would again sink like a stone...WT has everything going for it. It's 2 or 3 people at most who's nostalgic rationale has become destructively delusional.
 
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We need a special Behind the Roar podcast with Barry O'Farrell. If we can't have that then one of the surviving members of that board like Dennis the menace to explain things answering members questions.
No chance of getting HBG reps on Ned. There's no way they'll make themselves accountable.

Edit: At least they won't appear on a live broadcast with an unfriendly journo / podcaster. The bloke who did that interview asked some decent questions, but the answers were screaming out to be probed and challenged.
 
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What a train wreck of a place this is, and will continue to be.........

He consistently says they aren't kept in the loop but they have 2 HBG members who are on the board. Why he wasn't asked about this and why they aren't reporting back remains a mystery. If they're concerned about communication, you'd think that as soon a board meeting was over they'd call their their 2 reps to find out what happened?

It's clear he doesn't give a rats if Richo leaves. As a matter of fact it sounds like he'd be happy to see him go. Maybe he can re-hire that boot-licker Pascoe.

He talked about the team going in the right direction but that direction has occurred since the independent directors and Richo have come on board and started making decisions without involving HBG. Now they're gone (or in Richo's case as good as gone) HBG will just load up the board with their own flunkies and the football club will go backwards again. The predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour.

He talks about decisions being made regarding the WT football club (over a certain unspecified $ amount) including player payments, not being referred to HBG for ratification, and then later says they want nothing to do football club operations. Again, the contradiction wasn't probed.

BTH, I don't know why there's a WT board at all. Just give HBG total control and let do what they want. As he likes to remind you at every opportunity they are the 90% owners. Let them run the club into the ground like they've been doing for the last 15 years.
 

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Here's a big give away..
(Quote)
"And I can give an example of that – the stadium policy around Leichhardt Oval. So the announcement was that Leichhardt Oval would be the home of Wests Tigers for the next 15 years.The Holman Barnes Group board only found out about that with 16,000 other fans at Leichhardt Oval. Which is really bad for business, and it’s quite embarrassing really"

It's not THE home...it's A home. L.O. is not only iconic to Balmain but just as much iconic to the game of rugby league ...it's used as a publicity tool by CH 9 and FOX and there wouldn't be a top tier player who hasn't been asked many times what it's like to play there.
IMO here's the real L.O. issue for HBG...A packed house at LO being celebrated live by the broadcasters gives massive public perception equity to the Balmain side of the merger plus having the govt agree to upgrade the ground for a 15 year stay pretty much locks in WT as the franchise...no LO would make it immeasurably easier to revert back to the Magpies alone. As I've mentioned before...wests were my 2nd team but their last years in the Bigshow ( ending with a very whimpering spoon) didn't exactly scream administrative competence At least (for better or often worse) ...a significant number of former tigers have tried to at least contribute and be engaged with WT future...as far as I know from wests there's only been Tommy and John Skandalis. Alone either club would again sink like a stone...WT has everything going for it. It's 2 or 3 people at most who's nostalgic rationale has become destructively delusional.
It begs the question, If they are that worried about LO, why haven't they done anything about Henson Park?
CS has no history, but is certainly a must keep area.
They (HBG) have no need to change anything, but until it does change, this shit will continue as a whim to the debenture tards.
 
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At the end of the day, (while I loath HBG), they have sacked 4 independent board members, they will (need to) be replaced, and no doubt will be. This will cover the requirements of the last shitfight and the NRL.
So I'm not sure anyone can do anything about anything, when/if they do this.
Will be painful if we lost Richo, but not a death knell to the club. Same goes for Benji, and I'm not sure what coaches would be available at this late stage and would players would walk away, if we had a change?
I hope none of the above happens, but I think the most likely would be Richo going though.
Any number of good coaches ready to step up, although there might be a few issues with some player relations.

Losing Richo will leave a gap in some key areas.

As I haven’t reviewed all of the rebel boards decisions, it’s hard to judge their effectiveness. They haven’t had much time to make an impression of course.

The difficulty with HBG’s replacements, we simply don’t know who they are.
 

AKA Das Hassler

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Any number of good coaches ready to step up, although there might be a few issues with some player relations.

Losing Richo will leave a gap in some key areas.

As I haven’t reviewed all of the rebel boards decisions, it’s hard to judge their effectiveness. They haven’t had much time to make an impression of course.

The difficulty with HBG’s replacements, we simply don’t know who they are.

Yeah...force Benji Marshall out now...couldn't get much more WT type idiocy than that. Lots of good coaches available? Who? And why aren't they coaching next season instead of the other bottom 9 coaches who apparently aren't good enough either?
 
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Apparently the dogs Pub baron guy wants to buy the HBG share to SAVE.WT?!
Mote details shortly i guess
( i smell a Gus rat)
Apparently he's a WT supporter and approached us some time ago to get involved, but was given short shrift. I'm not 100% on that but remember hearing something like when he started up with the bulldogs.

Or it could be Gus' first salvo in getting Bula's signature 🤣
 

AKA Das Hassler

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Apparently he's a WT supporter and approached us some time ago to get involved, but was given short shrift. I'm not 100% on that but remember hearing something like when he started up with the bulldogs.

Or it could be Gus' first salvo in getting Bula's signature 🤣

My first suspicious reaction was "territory"....if he is genuine and would do it for the right reason i'd be over the moon. What odds he'd be more interested in a club he owns than one he sponsors ?
 
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Yeah...force Benji Marshall out now...couldn't get much more WT type idiocy than that. Lots of good coaches available? Who? And why aren't they coaching next season instead of the other bottom 9 coaches who apparently aren't good enough either?
He’s the worst coach in the NRL.

Any recent coach with a win rate better than Benjis 31% deserves an interview.I don’t exactly see a queue of clubs lining up to sign Benji as a coach.

More demand for the Richo I think.

Benji is a neutral in that his spell at coaching has adversely impacted upon both HBG and the rebels.
 
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