Wests Tigers take over bid

[Mr Spock!]

Taking something that doesn't exist.

Souffs.

How unexpected...

You need to bring 1909 up again.

You have nothing.

 

[Mr Spock!]

You guys had more opportunities to fail which you didn’t disappoint us .. lol@Souffs is a real thing bra

Dude even Souths fans lol@Souffs.

How do you think we fans have survived?

 

[Mr Spock!]

melbourne people like AFL more than Sydney people like nrl.

I wonder if they would if they butchered their game like we did.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

You need to bring 1909 up again.

You have nothing.

Should I write a book about it?

 

[Jim Rockford]

Should I write a book about it?

If you want your fellow Mergepies fans to read it don't use any big words and be sure to put lots of pictures in it otherwise they won't understand it.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

If you want your fellow Mergepies fans to read it don't use any big words and be sure to put lots of pictures in it otherwise they won't understand it.

Quality heckle, well-done you!!!

 

[flippikat]

1. You haven't given any reasons why Melbourne can support 9 clubs but Sydney can't.

2. As seen by the Demons performance this year, the Bulldogs winning a flag, the resurgence of the Tigers, the crash of Collingwood, North Melbourne and Hawthorne - success is cyclical. Even more so in the days of the salary cap. The most underperforming teams in the AFL are the Suns and Carlton. But it wasn't that long ago that Carlton were a powerhouse.

Clubs like South Melbourne and Fitzroy relocated/merged for their own survival AND retain some form of identity in their new locations. In reality though Fitzroy only exist in lower grades of the VFL. The 70s and 80s weren't great times for sports clubs either. Crowds in all codes were low, players were professional and money was made through leagues clubs and gate takings. There was no salary cap so struggling clubs literally paid for their lack of success.

The big, big differences to the NRL were that clubs were FORCED to merge.

1. Honestly I don't think either Melbourne OR Sydney can sustain their current number of teams in their respective "National" leagues, but many features of AFL have mitigated the worst effects of oversaturation - including their draft, their club funding model, a far bigger "membership culture", and a more national footprint that they can sell to the networks. The AFL would love to see a little further rationalisation of Melbourne, because that means they could consider "nice to have"s like a 3rd WA team, or a Canberra team, or Tasmania team while still keeping the competition size to manageable 18 clubs.

2 Yes success is cyclical, yet some teams' cycle seems to be "veer close to going broke, then finding a bit of bail-out cash to have a run at it", rinse and repeat.
Yeah, lean times are a given at some stage, but how often does a club have to be bailed out to realise it just can't weather the lean spells the way it is?

 

[Jim Rockford]

Quality heckle, well-done you!!!

Says the guy who posts moronic memes and pathetic GIFs.

 

[AnonymousLurker]

No stand alone club had won a premiership since the NRL formed????

Parra haven’t won
Titans haven’t won
Warriors haven’t won

Canberra last won in the ARL era

 

[Mr Spock!]

1. Honestly I don't think either Melbourne OR Sydney can sustain their current number of teams in their respective "National" leagues, but many features of AFL have mitigated the worst effects of oversaturation - including their draft, their club funding model, a far bigger "membership culture", and a more national footprint that they can sell to the networks. The AFL would love to see a little further rationalisation of Melbourne, because that means they could consider "nice to have"s like a 3rd WA team, or a Canberra team, or Tasmania team while still keeping the competition size to manageable 18 clubs.

2 Yes success is cyclical, yet some teams' cycle seems to be "veer close to going broke, then finding a bit of bail-out cash to have a run at it", rinse and repeat.
Yeah, lean times are a given at some stage, but how often does a club have to be bailed out to realise it just can't weather the lean spells the way it is?

1. Clubs in Melbourne dwarf the NRLs largest single city club in ratings, crowd sizes and memberships. The AFL may well want Hawthorne to move to Hobart but they won't force them nor give them an ultimatum.

2. You have to ask the Cronulla Sharks that question.

The AFL actually helps member clubs out to remain viable and maintain the competition's integrity.

It's not in the competition's interest to see the Demon's fold.

Something that the NRL only does to chosen clubs.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Parra haven’t won
Titans haven’t won
Warriors haven’t won

Canberra last won in the ARL era

Mate you said no stand alone clubs had won in the NRL era.....

Which of these clubs are not stand alone....

1998 Brisbane Broncos
1999 Melbourne Storm
2000 Brisbane Broncos
2001 Newcastle Knights
2002 Sydney Roosters
2003 Penrith Panthers
2004 Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs
2005 Wests Tigers
2006 Brisbane Broncos
2007 Withheld
2008 Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
2009 Withheld
2010 St. George Illawarra Dragons
2011 Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
2012 Melbourne Storm
2013 Sydney Roosters
2014 South Sydney Rabbitohs
2015 North Queensland Cowboys
2016 Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks
2017 Melbourne Storm
2018 Sydney Roosters
2019 Sydney Roosters
2020 Melbourne Storm

 

[Mr Spock!]

Should I write a book about it?

I'll write one for you.

The West Tigers Book of Feuds

The End.

 

[Mr Spock!]

I don't understand why interclub rivalry is something that should be made fun of.

It's what kept the competition interesting.

But I suppose when you're just a corporate elitist with no care for the soul of the game, you don't care about those things.

 

[Jim Rockford]

I'll write one for you.

The West Tigers Book of Feuds

The End.

Chapter 1 - Wests hate Balmain,Balmain hates Wests
The End

 

[flippikat]

1. Clubs in Melbourne dwarf the NRLs largest single city club in ratings, crowd sizes and memberships. The AFL may well want Hawthorne to move to Hobart but they won't force them nor give them an ultimatum.

2. You have to ask the Cronulla Sharks that question.

The AFL actually helps member clubs out to remain viable and maintain the competition's integrity.

.

1 - yup, that's the result of DECADES of AFL clubs focus on building ACTIVE fans that put money in AND show up to games. The crowds became so big that a centralized stadium strategy made perfect sense. (2 big, full feature, modern stadiums)

I don't know why you mention just Hawthorne, because there's been the Demons, Roosters and Saints also mentioned as being in the AFL's sights over the last couple of decades.

2 touche! But aside from the ongoing "But.. but.. we're ASSET RICH!" saga of the Sharks, there's other key structural issues with how Sydney is represented, that prevent some clubs reaching their full potential.. and just add to the lows being lower than they need to be.

 

[AnonymousLurker]

Mate you said no stand alone clubs had won in the NRL era.....

Which of these clubs are not stand alone....

1998 Brisbane Broncos
1999 Melbourne Storm
2000 Brisbane Broncos
2001 Newcastle Knights
2002 Sydney Roosters
2003 Penrith Panthers
2004 Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs
2005 Wests Tigers
2006 Brisbane Broncos
2007 Withheld
2008 Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
2009 Withheld
2010 St. George Illawarra Dragons
2011 Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
2012 Melbourne Storm
2013 Sydney Roosters
2014 South Sydney Rabbitohs
2015 North Queensland Cowboys
2016 Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks
2017 Melbourne Storm
2018 Sydney Roosters
2019 Sydney Roosters
2020 Melbourne Storm

I said SOME stand clubs have not won in the NRL era, refer to page 23. The 3rd post that is your response which clearly shows the word SOME

 

[magpie_man]

Yeah...it is.

Regional cities don't have large immigrant populations.

Considering ~86% of the Australian population lives in cities I'd be more inclined to go with unforgiven's assessment.

 

[Perth Red]

I wonder if they would if they butchered their game like we did.

They’re not that stupid.

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Says the guy who posts moronic memes and pathetic GIFs.

Low quality bait gets low quality replies.

 

[Jim Rockford]

Low quality bait gets low quality replies.

Good to see that you admit that your replies are pathetically lame.