Wests Tigers take over bid

[AnonymousLurker]

That is blatantly false.

Btw the whole cyclical argument is what was being argued at the time of Superleague.

Please advise what part of my post is false.

Also how are performances not cyclical ..have Souths been a powerhouse side for each year for over 100 years? ... how great were the roosters in the 80s and 90s, what is happening to the broncos now ?

 

[AnonymousLurker]

Any news on the takeover bid of Wests Tigers?

It would be nice if whoever ran the joint changed its name to Western Sydney Tigers. Fans can call it "Wests" for short, but its logo and written name should be "Western Sydney Tigers". A whole generation has grown up never seeing Wests Magpies or Balmain Tigers play, so it's probably time to start calling them by a name that sounds more official and less ocker.

@Mr Spock! I respect your passion for Sydney, but it was inevitable that some clubs would fall by the wayside as the NSWRL became the ARL/NRL. There's no way you can have 12 teams in one city in a 16 team national competition. Not unless you want to limit the game's growth everywhere else, which is bad business and a recipe for disaster. Sport stopped being a community endeavor and became a business back in the 80s/90s, at least here in Australia. It happened much sooner overseas. If you want to see a community sports league then lobby the NSWRL to make the NSW Cup more localised. A good start would be to have former NSWRL teams that are not in the NRL compete alongside regional teams. So something like Balmain Tigers, Illawarra Steelers, Newtown Jets, North Sydney Bears, St George Dragons and Western Sydney Magpies. Add teams from Bathurst, Central Coast, Newcastle and maybe even have Tweed Heads Seagulls compete in it as North Coast Seagulls and put a team on the South Coast.

Takeover bid was rejected

 

[Mr Spock!]

Please advise what part of my post is false.

Also how are performances not cyclical ..have Souths been a powerhouse side for each year for over 100 years? ... how great were the roosters in the 80s and 90s, what is happening to the broncos now ?

No stand alone club had won a premiership since the NRL formed????

 

[Mr Spock!]

Do accept that the game evolved and changed and that your clubs earlier success was a result of a lack of competition due to limited clubs available and once the competition expanded your club ... well become a bit of a you know lesser thing to put it kindly.

No.

 

[Mr Spock!]

In Western Sydney

Is Western Sydney representative of schools in Australia?

 

[Mr Spock!]

 

[Mr Spock!]

Any news on the takeover bid of Wests Tigers?

It would be nice if whoever ran the joint changed its name to Western Sydney Tigers. Fans can call it "Wests" for short, but its logo and written name should be "Western Sydney Tigers". A whole generation has grown up never seeing Wests Magpies or Balmain Tigers play, so it's probably time to start calling them by a name that sounds more official and less ocker.

@Mr Spock! I respect your passion for Sydney, but it was inevitable that some clubs would fall by the wayside as the NSWRL became the ARL/NRL. There's no way you can have 12 teams in one city in a 16 team national competition. Not unless you want to limit the game's growth everywhere else, which is bad business and a recipe for disaster. Sport stopped being a community endeavor and became a business back in the 80s/90s, at least here in Australia. It happened much sooner overseas. If you want to see a community sports league then lobby the NSWRL to make the NSW Cup more localised. A good start would be to have former NSWRL teams that are not in the NRL compete alongside regional teams. So something like Balmain Tigers, Illawarra Steelers, Newtown Jets, North Sydney Bears, St George Dragons and Western Sydney Magpies. Add teams from Bathurst, Central Coast, Newcastle and maybe even have Tweed Heads Seagulls compete in it as North Coast Seagulls and put a team on the South Coast.

AFL does well with 9 Melbourne teams and one outer city team.

Once again you don't see them trying to screw their game.

Why don't you go screw their game?

 

[Nealo 12]

No.

I do you are in complete denial then old mate ... lol

 

[Mr Spock!]

The cream of the BRL minus the great players that had already been plucked out of it. (For example Canberra getting a few choice signings that bolstered their stocks dramatically in the mid 80s, setting them up for a turn-of-the-decade dynasty)

Yeah they only had 14 SOO players and internationals.

No wonder they couldn't make the finals.

 

[Mr Spock!]

I do you are in complete denial then old mate ... lol

Well I suppose you would've had more competition for your wooden spoons.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Which brand has more support in Sydney. Magpies or Tigers?

I ask a neutral from Queensland unfamiliar with the Sydney landscape.

Macarthur Magpies has alliteration, but no one outside of Sydney knows where it is, which makes it hard to market to people across Australia, NZ and PNG. It doesn't surprise me that the most watched clubs in Australia are those that represent areas people are familiar with, such as Brisbane Broncos, Melbourne Storm, Sydney Roosters and South Sydney Rabbitohs. Parramatta Eels are the exception to the rule.

Collingwood Magpies have a lot of support....more than the Broncos....

But according to you no one would support a bird....and who the hell knows where Collingwood is?

What better way to represent Australia than Americanisms like cowboy and bronco.

 

[Nealo 12]

Well I suppose you would've had more competition for your wooden spoons.

You guys had more opportunities to fail which you didn’t disappoint us .. lol@Souffs is a real thing bra

 

[Nealo 12]

I have to admit I have a passion for Lol@Souffs which gives me great satisfaction!

 

[Nealo 12]

I have to admit I have a passion for Lol@Souffs which gives me great satisfaction!

It’s an addiction as others know

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

Taking something that doesn't exist.

Souffs.

How unexpected...

 

[unforgiven]

Is Western Sydney representative of schools in Australia?

Is the school you teach at with the amount of immigrants being able to be counted on one hand representative of schools in Australia?

 

[flippikat]

AFL does well with 9 Melbourne teams and one outer city team.

Once again you don't see them trying to screw their game.

Why don't you go screw their game?

Two points though..

1 - Aside from heritage club Geelong, AFL doesn't have the mid-size regional centres in their Premiership like Newcastle, Townsville, and even Canberra - so even with 9 Melbourne teams, there's latitude to *not only* cover Adelaide, Perth, Sydney & Brisbane - but to put derbies there. And do that with 18 teams.

We could have Perth & Adelaide with 16 NRL teams now, if the Knights and Cowboys were moved there - but that would leave those markets open to AFL (and they're sniffing out options for teams 19 and 20 too).

And 2 - for the last few decades, the AFL has been constantly prodding underperforming Melbourne clubs to improve or else relocate to a potentially more lucrative market and/or merge with another club to free up space in the competition for expansion.

It's just the tenacity of clubs

Just look at the "will they, won't they" saga about the Kangaroos moving to the Gold Coast in the early 2000s.

Big big differences to the NRL.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Is the school you teach at with the amount of immigrants being able to be counted on one hand representative of schools in Australia?

Yeah...it is.

Regional cities don't have large immigrant populations.

 

[Perth Red]

AFL does well with 9 Melbourne teams and one outer city team.

Once again you don't see them trying to screw their game.

Why don't you go screw their game?

melbourne people like AFL more than Sydney people like nrl.

 

[Mr Spock!]

Two points though..

1 - Aside from heritage club Geelong, AFL doesn't have the mid-size regional centres in their Premiership like Newcastle, Townsville, and even Canberra - so even with 9 Melbourne teams, there's latitude to *not only* cover Adelaide, Perth, Sydney & Brisbane - but to put derbies there. And do that with 18 teams.

We could have Perth & Adelaide with 16 NRL teams now, if the Knights and Cowboys were moved there - but that would leave those markets open to AFL (and they're sniffing out options for teams 19 and 20 too).

And 2 - for the last few decades, the AFL has been constantly prodding underperforming Melbourne clubs to improve or else relocate to a potentially more lucrative market and/or merge with another club to free up space in the competition for expansion.

It's just the tenacity of clubs

Just look at the "will they, won't they" saga about the Kangaroos moving to the Gold Coast in the early 2000s.

Big big differences to the NRL.

1. You haven't given any reasons why Melbourne can support 9 clubs but Sydney can't.
2. As seen by the Demons performance this year, the Bulldogs winning a flag, the resurgence of the Tigers, the crash of Collingwood, North Melbourne and Hawthorne - success is cyclical. Even more so in the days of the salary cap. The most underperforming teams in the AFL are the Suns and Carlton. But it wasn't that long ago that Carlton were a powerhouse.

Clubs like South Melbourne and Fitzroy relocated/merged for their own survival AND retain some form of identity in their new locations. In reality though Fitzroy only exist in lower grades of the VFL. The 70s and 80s weren't great times for sports clubs either. Crowds in all codes were low, players were professional and money was made through leagues clubs and gate takings. There was no salary cap so struggling clubs literally paid for their lack of success.

The big, big differences to the NRL were that clubs were FORCED to merge.