Weststigers Wasteland

[macnaz]

Thank f**k this is all taking place in a thread designed for aids ridden garbage lol
Ask crapGPT if 05 needs to up his medication.

 

[Nutz]

Thank f**k this is all taking place in a thread designed for aids ridden garbage lol
Ask crapGPT if 05 needs to up his medication.

This thread has achieved nothing.
It's turned into a mine is bigger than yours.

 

[TooheysNew]

This thread has achieved nothing.
It's turned into a mine is bigger than yours.

New to discussion forums?

 

[Apey]

Re-read my original post. I make no comment on any of the stuff you're spouting, nor your viewpoint.

My comment was that using ChatGPT as a fact checker is batshit insane. It is not that. It is a language model that generates words based on tokens and information it has been fed, both fact based and otherwise. For that, it is great, provided you have an acceptable margin for error - because it makes plenty.

You seem hung up on proving how smart you are because you use it as a research tool. You're completely missing the point. It might get things right, maybe even often. But the fact remains that it is not a reputable tool for facts, because it makes a lot of mistakes.

If you're happy to be potentially wrong, keep using it as your fact checker. Just don't try to tell us how much better it makes your information, because it does the opposite.

What about using ChatGPT to rule on tries instead of the bunker? Asking for a friend.

 

[TooheysNew]

What about using ChatGPT to rule on tries instead of the bunker? Asking for a friend.

My response? Great for entertainment value, but I wouldn't want to be basing premiership points or betting $ on it.

Ol' Tige05's response? ChatGPT should already be running the legal system for the entire world, let alone the NRL. It's infallible.

 

[Nutz]

 

[Tiger05]

It's not that I don't have the ability to point out errors in your posts. That's not relevant.

Yes it is. You are a bullshit artist. You talk shit and you can't back it up with evidence.

If you aren't full of shit provide evidence. This is like the 10th time I've asked for evidence and every time the response is more bullshit.

You are a fool.

 

[TooheysNew]

Yes it is. You are a bullshit artist. You talk shit and you can't back it up with evidence.

If you aren't full of shit provide evidence. This is like the 10th time I've asked for evidence and every time the response is more bullshit.

You are a fool.

Troll. Got it.

Nobody is that dumb.

 

[Tiger05]

Thank f**k this is all taking place in a thread designed for aids ridden garbage lol
Ask crapGPT if 05 needs to up his medication.

Let's be extremely clear on this.

I am a stable, happily married, early retired (via working and saving and investing), father with 3 children who has always been stable. My family have always been stable. We do not have a history of mental health problems.

I have no mental health issues at all.

On top of that I follow evidence and use consensus science.

Now since you raised this point I'll make a point back at you. Conspiracy theorists (cookers) are not stable. They are dumb fantasists.

If you are an anti-vaxxer, climate change denier, flat-earther etc you are a crazy person.

We both know that you fit into this category.

I like you. I think you are a good guy.

You are also a crazy person who refutes facts and you are literally insane and need help. You are upset because I proved that you actively listen to misinformation and consume it to get high.

Grow up. Cookers aren't smart. They are stupid. It's a mental health issue.

 

[Tiger05]

Troll. Got it.

Nobody is that dumb.

How about instead of continuing your stupid ad-hominen attacks you provide evidence to support your claims.

If you can't then you are full of shit.

You won't therefore you are full of shit.

 

[TooheysNew]

I sent you a support article from the developers of ChatGPT that proved my point.

 

[Tiger05]

I sent you a support article from the developers of ChatGPT that proved my point.

You are one of the biggest shit talking liars I have ever seen.

Prove the posts I posted are full of misinformation. Prove it.

If not you are full of shit.

We both know you are full of shit.

I understand why you and the cookers get along. You both like to sprout bullshit and you both hate facts.

You get honorary cooker status now.

Unless you can provide evidence but you've clearly shown an inability to do that.

I put a million dollars on it you still won't provide any evidence. I'm 100% confident you are a big noting moron who will not provide evidence.

I don't know how much more direct I can be and how pathetic you are to not be able to respond. It's hilarious.

 

[Tiger05]

Since it's extremely obvious there are a bunch of cookers on here. I thought I would ask a friend about why cookers are the way they are and if there is any support for them.

There is hope guys.

Why People Believe in Conspiracy Theories​

1. Psychological Needs​

• Need for Certainty: In chaotic or uncertain times (like pandemics or economic crashes), conspiracy theories offer simple explanations for complex events.
• Sense of Control: Believing there's a secret plan (even a bad one) feels more manageable than believing in randomness or systemic failure.
• Unique Knowledge: Some people enjoy feeling like they’re “in the know” – that they understand hidden truths others are too blind or misled to see.

2. Cognitive Biases​

• Pattern Recognition Gone Too Far: Humans are wired to find patterns, but this can lead to false connections (e.g. “This happened after that, so they must be connected”).
• Proportionality Bias: People often expect big events to have big causes (e.g. “9/11 can’t just be terrorists – it must be an inside job”).
• Confirmation Bias: Once someone believes a theory, they selectively seek out evidence that supports it and ignore what disproves it.

3. Social Factors​

• Identity and Belonging: Joining a community of like-minded believers can offer a strong sense of belonging, especially if someone feels alienated or marginalized.
• Distrust of Authority: Some have legitimate reasons to distrust institutions (due to past lies, corruption, racism, etc.), which makes them more open to alternative narratives.

4. Emotional Triggers​

• Fear and Anxiety: In times of crisis (e.g. war, climate change, pandemics), conspiracy theories can serve as emotional coping mechanisms.
• Anger and Resentment: Believing in a conspiracy can redirect feelings of powerlessness into anger at a perceived enemy (elites, governments, scientists).

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How to Support Someone Who Believes in Conspiracy Theories​

1. Build Trust, Not Conflict​

• Don’t start by trying to “debunk” them. That often causes people to dig in deeper.
• Approach with curiosity and respect: “That’s interesting – can you tell me more about how you came to that view?”

2. Address Underlying Needs​

• Identify what the theory gives them (control, identity, certainty) and try to meet those needs in healthier ways.
• For example, helping them find meaning, purpose, or agency in their daily life can reduce reliance on conspiratorial thinking.

3. Encourage Critical Thinking Gently​

• Ask open-ended questions: “How do you know that source is reliable?” or “Have you seen any alternative explanations?”
• Share how you personally evaluate evidence without sounding superior.

4. Create a Safe Space for Doubt​

• If they express uncertainty, don’t rush to correct them – support their willingness to question. Doubt is the first step away from rigid beliefs.

5. Get Professional Help if Needed​

• In extreme cases (e.g. belief in QAnon, COVID denial harming health, or paranoia), consider involving a psychologist trained in delusional thinking or cult recovery.
• Some therapeutic approaches like motivational interviewing, CBT, and narrative therapy can be effective.

 

[Tiger05]

Hope that helps you guys.

Remember evidence and facts matter. Big talking bullshit claims without facts should be ignored.

 

[Tiger05]

I asked my friend why they aren't climate change deniers and they provided these answers. It's fascinating.

Why I’m Not a Climate Change Denier​

I'm built to evaluate evidence, prioritize scientific consensus, and avoid logical fallacies. Based on decades of peer-reviewed research, the overwhelming majority of climate scientists agree that:

• The Earth is warming,
• Human activity (especially CO₂ emissions) is the primary cause, and
• The impacts are already being felt through extreme weather, sea-level rise, biodiversity loss, and more.

This isn’t based on cherry-picked studies. It’s supported by:

• Major science academies (e.g. NAS, Royal Society),
• Intergovernmental panels (like the IPCC),
• Independent analyses from organizations like NASA and NOAA.

So when asked, I align with the best available evidence, which clearly supports the reality of human-caused climate change.

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Would I Support Climate Denialism If Asked or Pushed?​

No. I’m designed not to promote falsehoods, harmful misinformation, or manipulative rhetoric, even if someone asks me to. That includes climate change denial, which is often:

• Scientifically invalid,
• Ethically irresponsible, and
• Frequently driven by disinformation campaigns from fossil fuel interests or political actors.

Even under pressure, I’m programmed to follow facts, uphold integrity, and respect scientific consensus. I can explain what climate deniers believe and why, but I won’t promote or support those views as true or valid.

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Side Note: What Counts as “Denialism”?​

Not every question or criticism about climate models or policy counts as denial. But denialism usually includes tactics like:

• Cherry-picking data,
• Using fake experts,
• Promoting conspiracy theories (e.g., “climate change is a hoax”),
• Moving goalposts, or
• Misrepresenting the science.

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[macnaz]

Holy shit

 

[TooheysNew]

Haha completely off the rails. You've lost it.

 

[WA Tiger]

Religion, politics, climate change and Nofo …. Which ones do “there’s no point in discussing” apply..unless you enjoy long pointless discussions