Weststigers Wasteland

[WA Tiger]

Yip and thats how each of these topics of discussion ends.. Every single time ..When you see it start, try to avoid it ..sometimes it’s very difficult. People are never going to turn around and say “you know what I think I’m going to change my opinion on this one ..and thank you “ It’s not humanly possible.. steer clear otherwise it’s hard to stop. All for what?

 

[Tiger05]

Yip and thats how each of these topics of discussion ends.. Every single time ..When you see it start, try to avoid it ..sometimes it’s very difficult. People are never going to turn around and say “you know what I think I’m going to change my opinion on this one ..and thank you “ It’s not humanly possible.. steer clear otherwise it’s hard to stop. All for what?

I go in with good intentions but the world today is screwed up.

Facts matter to me. Education matters to me. The problem is we live in a world where people are so arrogant and stupid all wrapped up on one f**ked up dysfunctional mess.

You know what I love about AI. It says it has no ego. I try and have no ego. You look at the cookers on here who have bizarre feelings that aren't based on facts and they actively pursue misinformation. The fascinating thing is when you show them facts they still refute those facts. That is why I mention Bonhoeffer Theory of Stupidity. It is a theory on people who dispute facts. When they dispute facts they are actively stupid.

The question is why bother. These people are so freaken stupid. They honestly think going and reading a twitter post with misinformation in is a form of education.

I'd like to think they will wake up and realize they have a brain that they aren't using but maybe they are just willfully stupid and they will remain that for life.

Look at that Tooheys moron who talks himself up but you ask him for evidence and just reverts to big noting himself. What an idiot.

 

[TooheysNew]

When you've lost a debate, just start attacking the man.

You hate to see it.

 

[WA Tiger]

Yip and thats how each of these topics of discussion ends.. Every single time ..When you see it start, try to avoid it ..sometimes it’s very difficult. People are never going to turn around and say “you know what I think I’m going to change my opinion on this one ..and thank you “ It’s not humanly possible.. steer clear otherwise it’s hard to stop. All for what?

I think if half the world gives a shit at least we may get to death without having to suffer from the consequences.If the word was the consequences will occur next week opinions might change.. Ill hopefully be safer in Perth

 

[Tiger05]

When you've lost a debate, just start attacking the man.

You hate to see it.

That is all you've done. I took a long time calling you a moron which you are. You and others started it because you can't provide any evidence or facts to back up your bullshit.

Now I've lost all respect for you because you refuse to provide evidence to back up your bullshit.

You are an uneducated, stupid, big talking moron with no idea.

Prove me wrong - provide evidence. If not then you are a moron. Let's be very clear you won't come back with evidence. I've asked multiple times and you never back it up.

Shit talking stupid loser moron. Prove me wrong.

 

[Tiger05]

I think if half the world gives a shit at least we may get to death without having to suffer from the consequences.If the word was the consequences will occur next week opinions might change.. Ill hopefully be safer in Perth

It's happening already. This is the sad thing. Cookers really suck.

I don't think they are evil. I think they are ridiculously arrogant and stupid. Some of them are evil but most of them are just your typical useful idiot.

It boggles my mind how dumb these people are.

 

[Nealo 12]

It's happening already. This is the sad thing. Cookers really suck.

I don't think they are evil. I think they are ridiculously arrogant and stupid. Some of them are evil but most of them are just your typical useful idiot.

It boggles my mind how dumb these people are.

Maybe you can also look at things out of people's control that effect the climate , has your AI friend told you about solar / space weather events that also have an impact ?
Getting all your info from Chat GPT may be a bit of fun but doesn't tell the full picture on every subject.

 

[Tiger05]

Maybe you can also look at things out of people's control that effect the climate , has your AI friend told you about solar / space weather events that also have an impact ?
Getting all your info from Chat GPT may be a bit of fun but doesn't tell the full picture on every subject.

Gentleman - I think we have another cooker in the room.

Are you stating that climate change is not happening and it's not the fault of humankind specifically our development based on utilizing fossil fuels ?

If this is the case please do the following for me:-

1. Explain to me how the greenhouse effect works ?
2. Explain to me what the consensus science on climate change states ?
3. Explain to me what is wrong with the consensus science ?
4. Provide evidence why the consensus science is wrong ?

Just to be clear I just want a simple high level synopsis. I'm not an expert. I am not a climate scientist. I am self educated on the topic but my education is based on a really high level understanding of the consensus science. There is stuff that I have no idea about however that stuff is definitely not relevant to this discussion. I actually thought these discussions were over a long time ago but due to the amount of misinformation in society coupled with gullible people we are still having this discussion.

Anyway give it a shot.

Alternatively be like your buddies who have been shown to be shit talking uneducated morons (the popular moniker is cooker).

You guys haven't given one decent argument yet. It's all feelings and emotions and twitter posts and culture war bullshit. It's basically stuff that you do when you are 14 and if you are stupid.

 

[TooheysNew]

Who exactly are you calling a cooker? Just so I'm clear.

 

[Tiger05]

Who exactly are you calling a cooker? Just so I'm clear.

They know who they are. I won't rub it in their faces anymore if they don't post dumb shit.

To be fair to you. I'm not sure if you are a cooker or simply an uneducated egotistical moron who thinks he knows his stuff but doesn't. So you talk yourself up but you never back it up. You are basically a pathetic loser and I've talked so much crap to you and you do nothing at all. You do nothing because I'm right. You must be so f**ken angry and embarrassed it must suck. You deserve it though. Your stupid ego is the thing to blame.

Or you can provide evidence but you won't do that will you. Go away moron. Or provide evidence. This should be on loop.

 

[TooheysNew]

They know who they are. I won't rub it in their faces anymore if they don't post dumb shit.

To be fair to you. I'm not sure if you are a cooker or simply an uneducated egotistical moron who thinks he knows his stuff but doesn't. So you talk yourself up but you never back it up. You are basically a pathetic loser and I've talked so much crap to you and you do nothing at all. You do nothing because I'm right. You must be so f**ken angry and embarrassed it must suck. You deserve it though. Your stupid ego is the thing to blame.

Or you can provide evidence but you won't do that will you. Go away moron. Or provide evidence. This should be on loop.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

And keep up the personal attacks if it makes you feel better.

 

[Tiger05]

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

And keep up the personal attacks if it makes you feel better.

Here is another point big mouth uneducated moron. You started the ad-hominen attacks. I let it go on multiple occasions.

You have at lest three big problems:-

1. You are stupid.
2. You are arrogant.
3. You are a hypocrite.

Shall we repeat the loop again. Go away moron or provide evidence. We know you won't.

 

[TooheysNew]

This a good start for evidence of my point? I used a "source" you're familiar with.


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Based on their replies, Tiger05 appears not to fully understand or engage with TooheysNew's actual point—which was a nuanced caution about source credibility rather than disagreement with the climate-related content.

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Breakdown:​

What TooheysNew Actually Said:​

• “I don't disagree with your points of view…”
• Their issue was with using ChatGPT as a fact-checker, not the substance of the claims.

How Tiger05 Responded:​

• Rather than acknowledging the concern about sourcing, Tiger05 doubled down on the importance of the facts themselves:
  

  "So rather than discussing the substance of the information, people want to dismiss it because it's from ChatGPT?"

• They framed the response as if people were rejecting climate facts outright, not raising a sourcing issue.
• Then escalated:
  

  “This is why we can’t have nice things.”

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Interpretation​

• Tiger05 partially misunderstood or chose to sidestep TooheysNew's actual concern.
• They conflated a critique of methodology with denial of the underlying message, which wasn't the case.
• This misunderstanding likely contributed to the escalation of tone.

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Conclusion​

No, Tiger05 did not clearly show that they understood TooheysNew's point—which was about source credibility, not climate denial or disagreement with the content. Instead, Tiger05 responded as though their facts were being rejected wholesale, which wasn't accurate

 

[Tiger05]

You are probably the funniest most stupid person I have ever seen.

You just used ChatGPT to provide an argument that I didn't tell you to make and your whole little tantrum was that I shouldn't use ChatGPT.

Do you realize how stupid you are ? I can't get over how f**ken dumb you are. I'm like sitting here in absolute amazement. That is like the dumbest shit I've ever seen. You just proved yourself a hypocrite and a moron. So you use ChatGPT to make your arguments after spending all the time whining how I shouldn't do that. How f**ken stupid.

I don't give a f**k about being respectful to you. I came on here to discuss climate change. You responded stating that I shouldn't use ChatGPT. I said provide evidence that what I stated was wrong. You still haven't done that.

I don't give a f**k about ChatGPT. I am discussing climate change and providing factual points. You are arguing some stupid argument about ChatGPT because you are an egotistical moron. After making that argument you go and do the exact same thing but in a real little bitch fashion.

Unbelievable.

Sorry I forgot the loop. STFU moron or provide evidence.

--> For clarification purposes (if you are really stupid - Tooheys) provide evidence that my posts on climate change were factually incorrect.

I'm going to add another point. This Tooheys bitch would have for sure tried to get some evidence that what I posted was wrong because I've given it to him. He can't do it and he has tried so freaken hard.

 

[TooheysNew]

And i merely cautioned you about using it as your "fact checker". But by all means, keep flying off the handle. It's painting a picture.

 

[TooheysNew]

This one must be fact too, right?

 

[Tiger05]

I think I've made my point clear. STFU moron or provide evidence.

 

[TooheysNew]

Oh this is just delicious.

Weaknesses in Critical Thinking:​

1. Misunderstanding the other person's position:
   • Tiger05 appears to misinterpret TooheysNew’s point (a critique of source reliability) as a rejection of facts.
   • Strong critical thinking requires accurately understanding counterarguments, even if you disagree.
2. Use of personal attacks:
   • Calling others “morons” or “a piece of shit human being” is emotional, not rational.
   • This undermines logical authority and reduces credibility in argumentation.
3. Over-reliance on ChatGPT as a factual authority:
   • While ChatGPT can be helpful, critical thinkers typically cross-reference claims with primary or expert sources.
   • Dismissing calls for higher-standard references weakens their epistemic rigor.
4. Binary framing:
   • Tiger05 frames the discussion as “either you're with facts or you're denying reality,” which may oversimplify nuanced critique (like TooheysNew's).

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Conclusion:​

Tiger05 is defending a worthy cause (science and facts), but not doing so in a way that exemplifies mature critical thinking.
Good critical thinking involves:

• Accurate interpretation of others’ arguments
• Emotional control
• Willingness to refine your stance when challenged thoughtfully
• Use of reliable, verifiable sources

In this thread, Tiger05 shows emotional reasoning more than rational analysis.

 

[Tiger05]

I'm happy to go through all of that but I'm going to respond to any points on climate change. I will not respond to any bitch like comments from a bitch.

Give me some time and don't delete your post.

Also - you are a f**ken hypocritical moron because you are using the same tool you told me not to use as a fact checker. You've lost the argument completely.

I'm happy though to go through the science. I might learn something.

 

[TooheysNew]

I'm using it to prove how silly your viewpoint on ChatGPT is. That's kind of the whole point.

Btw, that last post of yours further proved point 2:

Use of personal attacks:

• Calling others “morons” or “a piece of shit human being” is emotional, not rational.
• This undermines logical authority and reduces credibility in argumentation