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What has Australia done for Rugby League ?

ozbash

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since the game was introduced to aussie by the kiwis in the early part of the last century, i often wonder what actually have they done to make the game a more popular sport and ensure its growth ?

got me stumped.
i cant think of many ( if any ) positives and a lot of negatives.
eg
slowly killed the international game
"boohoo, the seasons too long, i just cant cope representing my country"

"no, tony puletua and big joe cant go rep their country, their toenails are due for major reconstruction"

"we cant have him reffing our game. i mean,,, hes a kiwi and he couldnt ref a qld cup game""

"we have to shorten the season, its just too much for the players"
 

iggy plop

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Yep, league people in OZ are too NRL-centric and the game has suffered as a result. Very strong in its heartlands, but beyond that zilch.

We have self-interested morons running the game. Oh yeah, we have News LTD running the game - even worse.
 

DIEHARD

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Australia is responsible for most of the modern innovations and evolutions of the game.

But I take your point. :cry:

We don't seem to understand that expansion is important, and if the Northern Rugby Union didn't expand, Australian Rugby League wouldn't exist.
 

Fairleigh Good!

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Up to this point they haven't done anything, and are probably responsible for keeping Super League in the UK in the doldrums by making our players look like geniuss every year.

But this PNG scheme seems a good idea, shame if it were stamped out by the selfish gutter dwellers that seem to operate within the establishment of the NRL clubs who would absolutely love to do away with internationals altogether and not risk something like is being proposed in PNG.
 

Simo

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We set the bench mark for peformance in Rugby League. The only thing stopping the true growth of the game are the constant in ability of the other 3 main nations to keep up.

Results like 52 - 0 (Kiwis), 64 - 10 (POMS), (60 whatever against the Kiwis) and then 44-4 in what was meant to be a final is what stops league from truely growing.

Blame us for what you like but if the bloody Kiwis and POMs would put in a real effort and learn to play, League would gain enormous exposure.
 

bulldog

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Australian League establishments should realise how much better we have it over here in League heartland. Funds for personnel and development would be an enormous boost to many of the minnow nations. If we want the game to grow beyond the 3 nations we need to start looking at ways to help them become established and self-sufficient.

It's easy to look down on everybody from the top of the mountain, but what about giving a few others a hand to get up there with us.
 

innsaneink

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Q/What has Australia done for Rugby League ?

A/Set the other league playing nations a standard to aim for on the field.




What has NZ done for RL?
What has GB done fro RL?

Shit stirring thread and I'll borrow Dodges forum cop hat and say,"piss it off to international forum where it belongs." :arrow:
 

aids

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it's a fair enough thread.


i think league need to position themselves from a media standpoint as the superios game to union.
and just use examples of all the union stars picked off from league.


from an international point of view though, where can league expand too?
in europe england enjoys a fair bit of support, expaning the SL comp to france.
where next?

italy, hungary, germany?

trying a comp in america?

africa?

asia?




sure the aussie come off as sounding a bit sooky at times, but it's only becuase you kiwi's are pretty hopeless*




*just a joke no need for it to be taken seriously
 

carlnz

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innsaneink said:
Q/What has Australia done for Rugby League ?

A/Set the other league playing nations a standard to aim for on the field.




What has NZ done for RL?
What has GB done fro RL?

sh*t stirring thread and I'll borrow Dodges forum cop hat and say,"piss it off to international forum where it belongs." :arrow:

Apart from playing PNG and USA (which the australians moaned and cryed about) Australia has done f**k ALL for Rugby League..

What about the Sevens?

Whats has NZ done? Well they hosted the Pacific Rim and CUp this year, Funded Russia to tour the South Island and Tonga the year before....send NZ A to USA, France and New Calediona.....sent a team to the Victory Cup.....

PNG, Tonga, Fiji and Cook Islands are right next door to Australia...would it really cost that much to send Australia over to those nations for a week?? Sure they might thump them..but its the only way they will get any better!
 

mightypanther

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would it really cost that much to send Australia over to those nations for a week??
Sure they might thump them..but its the only way they will get any better!


They've already been doing that regularly for many years in both NZ and
England, and it still hasn't made a whole lot of difference in either of those
countries yet.......... :roll:
 

ozbash

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They've already been doing that regularly for many years in both NZ and
England, and it still hasn't made a whole lot of difference in either of those
countries yet..........

thats all aussie has given to the world, arrogance and ignorance.
not to mention the reputation they have created.

Results like 52 - 0 (Kiwis), 64 - 10 (POMS), (60 whatever against the Kiwis) and then 44-4 in what was meant to be a final is what stops league from truely growing.

Blame us for what you like but if the bloody Kiwis and POMs would put in a real effort and learn to play, League would gain enormous exposure.

bullshit, every comp aussie is involved in must swing their way or they just dont want to know.
take for example the one off test matches,, the opposition is ambushed by a complete australian (usually just after SOO) side and invariably hammered.
course the aussies sit back,, pat themselves on the back for supporting international footy and whinge about how bad the opposition is.

the whinging is usually accompanied by your judiciary chairman levelling the playing field in aussies favour thru suspension or the nrl coaches/admin refusing to let players go through fear of injury.
 

JW

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What has Australia done for Rugby League?

It's taken an English game and set up a competition that is a market leader across more than half of of the population in this country. It has been responsible for setting the highest attendences seen anywhere in the Rugby League world, dwarfing Britain and New Zealand. It has been responsible for setting the highest possible standard of competition, skills and players the game has ever seen.

Australia sets the benchmark for the rest to aim for.

Ask yourself what the status of Rugby League around the world would be like without Australia, where the ESL would be the world's premier competition.

This thread is simply a case of tall-poppy syndrome IMO.

Cheers.
 

Misty Bee

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Let's not forget who propegated the game in PNG (Kangaroos had the first internationals against them) and the Pacific (ARL sent plenty of coachingclininc Fiji's way, and basically set the code up there, plus giving Noa Nadruku a great opportunity, which made him a national hero up there with VJ Singh).

I recall other things.....

Australia playing a test v NZ in the US in the 1950's.

NSW and Qld playing an Origin match in the 1980's in LA.

North Sydney did promotional and exhibition tours to South Africa.

Not to mention the COUNTLESS attempts to assist the eternally ailing NZRL, by not only our Test side, but by Manly, canterbury, St George and any other club who ever volunteered to hold a home game, trial or exhibition match in NZ.

We even have opened our doors to a club form NZ, which, apart from one single season, has been utterly dismal.

NZ, in turn, have done..what?

Without Australia's involvement, League would probably not exist.

Now, if NZ had done as much for League, and not concentrated on the more pathetic (and Kiwi like?) code of Yawnion, you might have a point, Ozbash.
 

carlnz

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mightypanther said:
would it really cost that much to send Australia over to those nations for a week??
Sure they might thump them..but its the only way they will get any better!


They've already been doing that regularly for many years in both NZ and
England, and it still hasn't made a whole lot of difference in either of those
countries yet.......... :roll:

I was talking about the Pacific teams...plus Australia hasent won in NZ for two years now ;-)

Still havent heard anything about the sevens from the Australians?!?!

Coaching clincs arent going to help Fiji...they need matches at home to raise money for their national side to travel and play France and wales etc etc
 

Sir Clifford GC

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ozbash said:
since the game was introduced to aussie by the kiwis in the early part of the last century, i often wonder what actually have they done to make the game a more popular sport and ensure its growth ?

got me stumped.
i cant think of many ( if any ) positives and a lot of negatives.
eg
slowly killed the international game
"boohoo, the seasons too long, i just cant cope representing my country"

"no, tony puletua and big joe cant go rep their country, their toenails are due for major reconstruction"

"we cant have him reffing our game. i mean,,, hes a kiwi and he couldnt ref a qld cup game""

"we have to shorten the season, its just too much for the players"
a couple of questions

Why is international league in this shape?
SUPER LEAGUE
Which 2 National Boards were so quick to jump ship to Rupert?
NZ and GB

So then who is to blame for the piss poor shape of the INTERNATIONAL GAME
Those two countrys, what a hide of a NZer to come out with this tripe, Before SL the ARL had set up the world 7s, sent delevopment officers to places like png and Fiji. All that good work was f**ked up when the Kiwis and poms signed on the dotted line with NEWS shutting the ARL out of international.

So maybe you should be asking whos responability it is to fix International League?

Also on the Hair bears if the kiwis are so pissed about them not being able to play tests heres a tip why dont the Kiwis build their own elite competition, close up the warriors and get the f@ck out of the australian game deadset you blokes are shit at sport so all you do is whinge and moan.

THAT GOD THE TASMAN SEPERATES OUR TWO COUNTRYS, thats still not wide enough for my liking.
 

Booyah

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Australia is responsible for setting a high standard International Rugby League. It's hardly our fault if others don't make the effort to do the same.
 

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