What's Sydney's biggest NRL club?

[t-ba]

The Broncos aren't just the biggest club in Queensland, they're the biggest club in the League.

Best season member figures, largest attendances, most merchandise sold, best sponsorship deals.

And so they should be, considering they had the better part of 20 years as the only club in SEQLD...

There'd be a lot of daylight between them and whoever's second, and odds are that second slot would be occupied by the Cowboys or Titans at the moment.

Maybe.

 

[(KW)]

Most Money - Penrith
Most Fans in total - St George
Most Fans on game Days - Wests

Overall though, I would say the Dogs are strong in all 3 categories, and get the nod in my book.

KW

 

[Slackboy72]

I reckon that all our opinions on who's biggest aren't worth a dried up dog turd.

 

[Nightward]

And so they should be, considering they had the better part of 20 years as the only club in SEQLD...

Ah, yes. The inevitable "they're a one-team, one-town club" argument.

Here's the thing; the Sydney outfits have had their vaunted hunded years to draw and sustain fan numbers... but haven't. They've been the "heartland of League" for that time, but it still takes at least two Sydney matches to draw as much as one Broncos match.

If having one team in your town was a recipe for success, the Knights would be doing as well as the Broncos.

This suggests that there may be something more to it than that.

 

[yobbo84]

This is an exercise in futility if you are basing this on fan numbers. Because unless you've gone around to every household in Australia and personally surveyed who they follow you are just throwing out wild speculation based on your own bias.

Absolutely pointless.

Exactly. Wait, did I just agree with a Roosters supporter? :shock:

 

[ozzie]

That's why I havent named a team because it is a stupid question and doesn't deserve an answer.

it;s been fun watching the dog and cat fights which do go on

 

[tiger_nick]

Ah, yes. The inevitable "they're a one-team, one-town club" argument.

Here's the thing; the Sydney outfits have had their vaunted hunded years to draw and sustain fan numbers... but haven't. They've been the "heartland of League" for that time, but it still takes at least two Sydney matches to draw as much as one Broncos match.

If having one team in your town was a recipe for success, the Knights would be doing as well as the Broncos.

This suggests that there may be something more to it than that.

Ok, lets throw 7 more teams in brisbane and see how well the broncos do.

To compare them to Newcastle is a joke, Necwastle has a population 10 times smaller then Brisbane.

 

[Nightward]

Ok, lets throw 7 more teams in brisbane and see how well the broncos do.

To compare them to Newcastle is a joke, Necwastle has a population 10 times smaller then Brisbane.

So what you're saying is, there's more to it than just the fact the Broncos are the only team in town?

Let's be serious here for a minute; Sydney has claimed 100 years of tradition and says it's the heartland of the game. Yet in all that time and with all that supposed dominance over us poor, benighted Northerners, they still can't draw the same crowd numbers, grudge match, big game, or otherwise.

They still can't summon so many season members.

They still can't sell as much merchanise.

They still aren't as fiscally powerful.

Sydney can whinge as much as they like. They're either the heartland of league with all that entails, or they aren't.

If the Sydney teams had a mind to do it, they could put things in place now and concievably be on par with the Broncos in five or ten years. None of them have the combination of foresight or courage to do so.

What happened up here in Brisbane was pretty much alchemy. If Sydney, and by extension the Sydney clubs, want to claim pride of place as a League heartland and say they've got the greatest support in the game, the least they could do is muster some kind of evidence to back those claims up.

Because right now, it's pretty hollow.

 

[Ziggy the God]

So what you're saying is, there's more to it than just the fact the Broncos are the only team in town?

Let's be serious here for a minute; Sydney has claimed 100 years of tradition and says it's the heartland of the game. Yet in all that time and with all that supposed dominance over us poor, benighted Northerners, they still can't draw the same crowd numbers, grudge match, big game, or otherwise.

They still can't summon so many season members.

They still can't sell as much merchanise.

They still aren't as fiscally powerful.

Sydney can whinge as much as they like. They're either the heartland of league with all that entails, or they aren't.

If the Sydney teams had a mind to do it, they could put things in place now and concievably be on par with the Broncos in five or ten years. None of them have the combination of foresight or courage to do so.

What happened up here in Brisbane was pretty much alchemy. If Sydney, and by extension the Sydney clubs, want to claim pride of place as a League heartland and say they've got the greatest support in the game, the least they could do is muster some kind of evidence to back those claims up.

Because right now, it's pretty hollow.

Maths 'isn't your go' is it chump?

 

[c_eagle]

Per capita, more League fans watch an NRL match involving Sydney teams at their home ground than the Broncos. It's not because Brisbane's stadium is too small, either. An average of 30 odd K for a city of 1.8 million vs 8 teams average around 13-14k in a city of 4 million. It's pretty obvious which city is the league heartland.

More so, Brisbane had everything handed to them on a platter from day one. Imo, the Broncos are perennial underachievers off the field. Look at what the West Coast did in Perth or to a lesser extent, the Crows in Adelaide. That's the reason why Brisbane can't support a second team, the Broncos haven't done a good enough job.

 

[tiger_nick]

So what you're saying is, there's more to it than just the fact the Broncos are the only team in town?

Let's be serious here for a minute; Sydney has claimed 100 years of tradition and says it's the heartland of the game. Yet in all that time and with all that supposed dominance over us poor, benighted Northerners, they still can't draw the same crowd numbers, grudge match, big game, or otherwise.

They still can't summon so many season members.

They still can't sell as much merchanise.

They still aren't as fiscally powerful.

Sydney can whinge as much as they like. They're either the heartland of league with all that entails, or they aren't.

If the Sydney teams had a mind to do it, they could put things in place now and concievably be on par with the Broncos in five or ten years. None of them have the combination of foresight or courage to do so.

What happened up here in Brisbane was pretty much alchemy. If Sydney, and by extension the Sydney clubs, want to claim pride of place as a League heartland and say they've got the greatest support in the game, the least they could do is muster some kind of evidence to back those claims up.

Because right now, it's pretty hollow.

you are taking the piss....surely?

are you trying to tell me a team like the sharks, who has a catchment area of around 200,000 people, could potentially rival the broncos in terms of support, who have a whole city of more then 2,000,000 and has had over 10 years to the state by themselves?

answer my question.

In 1988 if the nswrl introduced the East Brisbane Gorillas, the West Brisbane Cougars and the North Brisbane Numats along with the Broncos....do you think the broncos would eb as strong as they are today?

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Ok it was a Parramatta home game:roll: did you even go to the game? they were outnumbered atleats 3-1, the game last year at the SFS they were outnumbered 2-1. Ignorance? lol just reality mate, the Roosters aren't that popular, and everyone bar Roosters supporters know that.

It was a trial idiot.. It was no one's home game.. How many teams play their trials at a home venue.. It is just organised usually to play at an out of town venue between the 2 clubs..

I was at the game and we were outnumbered as you said but your comment was that we are always outnumbered at our home games.. Which is a fallacy.. Certainly not against the Eels as their fans don't travel well generally.. ok I can remember one occassion against the Eels in 2001 in the final round before their annual finals choke in which they came in their droves but that was it.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

Really? hmmm well i live up here and i hardly see ever, and i'm being honest. And the Parra vs Roosters trial proved it this year and last year, both times they were outnumbered 3-1.

lol.. so you can work out whose a fan by the jumper they wear.. Most fans of teams believe it or not wear plain clothes on the street.. So because a guy wears a suit and tie, he cannot possibly follow the Roosters or Knights or Dragons.. The fact is a small percentage of teams fans will wear their jumper on a day to day basis..

 

[NK Arsenal]

In my opinion

1. Roosters
2. Bulldogs
3. Eels

 

[Ron Jeremy]

It was a trial idiot.. It was no one's home game.. How many teams play their trials at a home venue.. It is just organised usually to play at an out of town venue between the 2 clubs..

I was at the game and we were outnumbered as you said but your comment was that we are always outnumbered at our home games.. Which is a fallacy.. Certainly not against the Eels as their fans don't travel well generally.. ok I can remember one occassion against the Eels in 2001 in the final round before their annual finals choke in which they came in their droves but that was it.

Idiot? It was a Roosters home game, the announcer was drumming up the Roosters and listing every single f**king sponser they had, the same happened last year! regardless if it were a trial, they were still outnumbered and if the Parra fans were willing to travel so could the Roosters. Oh thats right they're one of the most supportered sides up here:roll:

Last year they were outnumbered, even the Roosters fans i went with said the same, it was blind obvious:lol:

 

[Ron Jeremy]

lol.. so you can work out whose a fan by the jumper they wear.. Most fans of teams believe it or not wear plain clothes on the street.. So because a guy wears a suit and tie, he cannot possibly follow the Roosters or Knights or Dragons.. The fact is a small percentage of teams fans will wear their jumper on a day to day basis..

LOL, there were more Parramatta supporters there, get over your rant:lol:

Oh, and if the amount of Parra jerseys didn't give it away then the much larger roar for the entry and then for the Parra trys did.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

lol.. so you can work out whose a fan by the jumper they wear.. Most fans of teams believe it or not wear plain clothes on the street.. So because a guy wears a suit and tie, he cannot possibly follow the Roosters or Knights or Dragons.. The fact is a small percentage of teams fans will wear their jumper on a day to day basis..

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/summary.html#team

Knock yourself out, and even though the Roosters have been around for 100 years, other Sydney clubs in half the time still average better at home and away.

 

[Brownie.Kougari]

Ok, lets throw 7 more teams in brisbane and see how well the broncos do.

To compare them to Newcastle is a joke, Necwastle has a population 10 times smaller then Brisbane.

So Newcastle has a population of 180, 000?

I do agree with you on principle though, Brissy's catchment area for support certainly doesn't hurt it but there's nothing stopping Sydney teams from gaining influence in regional areas (ala Manly in Sunny Coast).

However this doesn't explain the difference in support in SoO & Tests...

 

[eels_fan_01]

Dogs closely followed by Eels.

I agree.

This is a first, me agreeing with you but Dogs are the biggest with Eels 2nd.

Dragons i guess you could argue are pretty big if you look at support around the whole country there seems to be atleast one of those wankers everywhere you go. I dont know why, Illawara being apart would help aswell.

 

[mattyg]

theres a first for everything. Living out my way EVERYONE goes for parra but most of them aren't really passionate enough to go to more than 1 game a year. If they somehow got them more passionate i think Dogs and Eels would be level in terms of support at games and in general. As has been mentioned in this thread, Dogs and Eels are the two teams that every rebel sport in Sydney stocks up in - for mine they are definately the biggest 2 clubs.

Dragons get plenty of support away from home but not so much at home - to me it shows they have a diverse fan base. I remember Dogs last year against Panthers at CUA deadset the support was 50/50 even from my brothers (Eels fan) point of view. CUA would have to be about an hour from bankstown too so it was a great effort.