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Who are the richest clubs outside the NRL?

yakstorm

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Based upon revenue and not directly affiliated with an NRL club, the biggest in NSW would be:

Mounties (Mt Pritchard) - $76.6m
Blacktown Workers - $60.6m
St Mary's - $44.4m
Norths Group - $29.0m
Wentworthville - $27.6m
Ryde-Eastwood - $12.4m
Wyong - $11.2m
Bankstown Sports - $10.2m
 
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yakstorm said:
Based upon revenue and not directly affiliated with an NRL club, the biggest in NSW would be:

Mounties (Mt Pritchard) - $76.6m
Blacktown Workers - $60.6m
St Mary's - $44.4m
Norths Group - $29.0m
Wentworthville - $27.6m
Ryde-Eastwood - $12.4m
Wyong - $11.2m
Bankstown Sports - $10.2m
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Notable that the top 5 of those exceed the revenue of every NRL football club, though obviously the majority of those also have associated Leagues clubs. When you consider that a team like the Warriors manage on revenue of 11.6m with no associated Leagues club, it’s far from a level playing field.
 
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Nutz said:
It gotcha. I think the Op could have framed the question a bit better.
Broncos must have money to have a club like that, plus the realestate. Having said that who owns both easts and Broncos. Broncos is NewsLimited isn't it...that's a healthy bank account.
I assume the question meant leagues clubs or is it football clubs?
The old Crushers was reasonable but had sticky carpet. ;)
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The Broncos are a publicly traded company so you can buy shares in them on the Australian Stock Exchange and be a part owner. Having said that, yes. News Limited own a controlling share of the company.

In terms of how rich a club is, well, what are the assets controlled by the club? Dolphins and Sydney Roosters own their real estate assets and leagues clubs so that would count. Newcastle is different for example, they are owned by Wests Newcastle and therefore the club is an asset for the owner.

Easts in Brisbane seem to own and control their assets under the football club.
 
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titoelcolombiano said:
The Broncos are a publicly traded company so you can buy shares in them on the Australian Stock Exchange and be a part owner. Having said that, yes. News Limited own a controlling share of the company.

In terms of how rich a club is, well, what are the assets controlled by the club? Dolphins and Sydney Roosters own their real estate assets and leagues clubs so that would count. Newcastle is different for example, they are owned by Wests Newcastle and therefore the club is an asset for the owner.

Easts in Brisbane seem to own and control their assets under the football club.
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Good info. Is that from an article, if so can you post the reference for my own edumication. ;)
I'm wondering what the motive of this thread is. Was it to compare wealth of NRL clubs to non NRL clubs. Possibly highlighting that NRL clubs aren't that wealthy to say those in Brisbane who don't have revenue from NRL.
Years ago football clubs and leagues clubs went hand in hand with pokies paying a lot of footy bills. Some footy clubs now don't have one. Footy players salary is paid for by the NRL so club don't rely on pokies as much but more from major sponsors and investors
That's how I see it anyway
 
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Nutz said:
Good info. Is that from an article, if so can you post the reference for my own edumication. ;)
I'm wondering what the motive of this thread is. Was it to compare wealth of NRL clubs to non NRL clubs. Possibly highlighting that NRL clubs aren't that wealthy to say those in Brisbane who don't have revenue from NRL.
Years ago football clubs and leagues clubs went hand in hand with pokies paying a lot of footy bills. Some footy clubs now don't have one. Footy players salary is paid for by the NRL so club don't rely on pokies as much but more from major sponsors and investors
That's how I see it anyway
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Back in the day, leagues clubs used to exist for the purposes of providing funding to the football club. Clubs are now branching out into more diversified income streams, leveraging their fan bases better for more revenue and obviously receiving a cut off the lucrative TV rights.

Seems there will be a bit of a clamp down on poker machines due to social issues so it's a good thing that clubs are looking for income elsewhere.
 
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Nutz said:
Good info. Is that from an article, if so can you post the reference for my own edumication. ;)
I'm wondering what the motive of this thread is. Was it to compare wealth of NRL clubs to non NRL clubs. Possibly highlighting that NRL clubs aren't that wealthy to say those in Brisbane who don't have revenue from NRL.
Years ago football clubs and leagues clubs went hand in hand with pokies paying a lot of footy bills. Some footy clubs now don't have one. Footy players salary is paid for by the NRL so club don't rely on pokies as much but more from major sponsors and investors
That's how I see it anyway
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www.smh.com.au

From a dump to the NRL: What you really need to know about The Dolphins

The name and players will all be revealed in due course. Here’s how The Dolphins really tick, why location matters and how they built their warchest.
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Can your NRL club survive the coronavirus hiatus?

The Sydney-based NRL clubs lost about $12 million between them in their last available annual reports.
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NRL Team Bid - theTigers.com.au

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titoelcolombiano said:
Back in the day, leagues clubs used to exist for the purposes of providing funding to the football club. Clubs are now branching out into more diversified income streams, leveraging their fan bases better for more revenue and obviously receiving a cut off the lucrative TV rights.

Seems there will be a bit of a clamp down on poker machines due to social issues so it's a good thing that clubs are looking for income elsewhere.
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The only downside for me is back in the day, leagues clubs was a venue for social gatherings especially on game day when you either couldn't go the game or couldn't get tickets and now it's not so prevalent.
Grand final day at the club was awesome. It was wasn't all about pokies.
Now social interaction in forums like LU is gaining popularity as it's easier.
Me being physically challenged means that I rely on forums and nbn streaming to fill the void.
My example is just one of many reasons why technology is taking over and sponsors know this and pour millions into TV rights and sponsorships.
 
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titoelcolombiano said:

NRL Team Bid - theTigers.com.au

thetigers.com.au thetigers.com.au
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Good to hear this as I'm a Wests Tigers fan..
From The Brisbane Tigers...

"As the West Tigers already hold an NRL and NRLW licence, we are not looking to become the second ‘Tigers’ team in National Rugby League competitions."

"The Brisbane River Mudskippers" sounds appropriate as dredging has ruined what was once a beautiful and clean river.
 
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yakstorm said:
Based upon revenue and not directly affiliated with an NRL club, the biggest in NSW would be:

Mounties (Mt Pritchard) - $76.6m
Blacktown Workers - $60.6m
St Mary's - $44.4m
Norths Group - $29.0m
Wentworthville - $27.6m
Ryde-Eastwood - $12.4m
Wyong - $11.2m
Bankstown Sports - $10.2m
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Don't feeder clubs get kick backs from NRL clubs?
 
titoelcolombiano

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yakstorm said:
Based upon revenue and not directly affiliated with an NRL club, the biggest in NSW would be:

Mounties (Mt Pritchard) - $76.6m
Blacktown Workers - $60.6m
St Mary's - $44.4m
Norths Group - $29.0m
Wentworthville - $27.6m
Ryde-Eastwood - $12.4m
Wyong - $11.2m
Bankstown Sports - $10.2m
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For context, Dolphins pre NRL would be top of this list and Brisbane Tigers would be around the Norths / Wentworthville level. Wynnum and Burleigh would be towards the bottom and just about all other Q Cup teams would miss the list by quite a way.
 
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SpaceMonkey said:
Population wise it’d directly eat into Penrith and Parra’s territories though.
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Which is why neither they nor Wentworthville will wind up in the NRL.

My late Father used to say that by financial strength of its leagues club at the time, when the NSWRL expanded in 1967, Wentworthville would have come into the league and not Penrith bar for the Parramatta Eels blocking Wentworthville from within the NSWRL structure as it stood at the time. He used to say that was why Penrith came into the league.
 
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Wb1234 said:
Population of that whole area will add another million people over time

but given the number of clubs in Sydney it won’t happen
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Yep exactly. It’s not simply about population, it’s about whether an area is catered to for active supporters and the region is already well covered.
 
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