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Who is a bigger rap legend?

Tupac Shakur or Notorious B.I.G?

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Tupac Shakur

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meltiger said:
Manurewa_Marlins said:
its a shame tho Tupac, seing how his manager arranged to have pac killed. You've seen the dvd aye? Biggie & Tupac? that was actually a good watch.


Pac was killed by LA Crips

Oh you know that do you? Well you should tell the authorities in America who have no idea. I didn't know someone in Australia could know this shit aye..and was there on the night he was shot.
 

shadow grinder

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it was first documented in a police report that they believed it was someone from the southside crips....in the police report they say orlando anderson had a .40 caliber Glock handgun...on the night...and would have reason to kill tupac considering they beat his ass down bout 3 hours earlier...but he was never charged withit...as you know...
 

meltiger

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Tupac Shakur said:
meltiger said:
Manurewa_Marlins said:
its a shame tho Tupac, seing how his manager arranged to have pac killed. You've seen the dvd aye? Biggie & Tupac? that was actually a good watch.


Pac was killed by LA Crips

Oh you know that do you? Well you should tell the authorities in America who have no idea. I didn't know someone in Australia could know this sh*t aye..and was there on the night he was shot.


Listen to the way his boys talk about it "It was street shit that killed Pac, not rap shit. Don't disrespect his memory", including the statement "The person who killed him has been dealt with" - Anderson was killed in a gang shooting.


Yes I don't buy into the rubbish conspiracy theories perpetuated by the Shakur Estate in order to maintain ownership of his music, including the masters that should rightfully have been Death Row's property.
 

meltiger

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& I can almost gaurentee the LAPD and LVPD know exactly who shot both Pac and BIg.
 
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You have to see the dvd. If it was a Gang Murder, why hasnt it been solved. Remember, the scene took place on the Los Vegas Strip. Thats the most populated street in the United States!!! More people saw 2Pac get killed than the last episode of Seinfeild (Chris Rock). Surely they would have been stopped when speeding off.

Also, Suge told pac too take his vest off as it is too hot....Come on now. If Suge really cared about Pac, he knew the situation with the East Coast. He knew that Pac, being famous, was always a potential target. Nope, that shit dont add up either.

Snoop Dogg also agrees that Suge did it. He has been the victim of Suge's attempts aswell, after leaving Tha Row due to Suge's bullyboy tactics. However Snoop was smart, in that he left when Suge was in jail, and couldnt do anything about it. Pac was going to leave, and Suge knew he would lose so much if he did. Tupac then became better use dead, than he was alive. If we cant have him, no one can typa scenario.

Same thing goes with Big. Suge wanted Big to sign to Tha Row, but instead he stayed on Bad Boy, and thus he was better dead to Suge as to the same scenario as above.

How did he get away with it?It is well known that Suge had off-duty cops working as part-time bodyguards to him and other Tha Row artists. He also had connections inside the Force itself, and Government officials turned a blind eye, just like they did in the Bay Of Pigs. They did not want potential warfare spawning from rap, and thus had to solve the situation. Therefore they all had a popular cause, and everybody wins...

This is not just a conspiracy theory. Look at the murders of Big L and Jam Master Jay aswell. No one charged...look at John Lenon...killer found. Allwere famous musicians in their own right...yet you can see the inconsistancies....same goes with Martin Luthar King jr. The government was in on it....SUge was the mastermind.

There you go...Peace. 1.
 

Tupac Shakur

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Some good points there bro, there is alot of conspiracies about Pacs death and all the shit that adds up to it so i'm lead to believe nothing. The public don't know the real truth.
 

meltiger

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You have to see the dvd. If it was a Gang Murder, why hasnt it been solved.

I own the DVD ... lol

There were two factors in why the murder was never solved - #1, the only witness prepared to co-operate with the LVPD was murdered no more than a few months later. #2 – The person who pulled the trigger has also now been murdered.

Remember, the scene took place on the Los Vegas Strip. Thats the most populated street in the United States!!! More people saw 2Pac get killed than the last episode of Seinfeild (Chris Rock). Surely they would have been stopped when speeding off.

Question for you. You are walking down the street, or driving down the street in the middle of whatever city you are from (Not sure where you from man ;-) ) and you see one car pull up beside another and in broad view of everywhere, be prepared to spray the other car with bullets…. Are you going going to be a big brave man and get in their way to ‘apprehend them’ – f**k NO you are not.

Also, Suge told pac too take his vest off as it is too hot....Come on now. If Suge really cared about Pac, he knew the situation with the East Coast. He knew that Pac, being famous, was always a potential target. Nope, that sh*t dont add up either.

They were inside the Casino when this happened. After the beat down of Orlando at the Casino, they went back to their hotel room to get changed before heading for the club … Is it really Suge’s fault that Tupac was too stupid to put his vest back on. This argument has always been ridiculous because it ignores the timelines and makes it seem as if Suge told Pac to take his vest off not long before he was shot, when in fact it was a number of hours before that occurred. He had ample opportunity to put his vest back on.

The BIG V Pac situation was a lyrical battle (Which BIG was winning) … It was not cause for anyone to be murdered over.

Snoop Dogg

Is a crying little bitch.

Pac was going to leave

Prove it.

Only days before he was murdered he is on video tape hyping Death Row East passionately. Doesn’t seem like a man intent on leaving to me.

Same thing goes with Big. Suge wanted Big to sign to Tha Row, but instead he stayed on Bad Boy, and thus he was better dead to Suge as to the same scenario as above.

There is evidence (Circumstancial, not enough to Indict him) to suggest Marion was involved in this murder. I won’t argue there.

How did he get away with it?It is well known that Suge had off-duty cops working as part-time bodyguards to him and other Tha Row artists. He also had connections inside the Force itself, and Government officials turned a blind eye, just like they did in the Bay Of Pigs. They did not want potential warfare spawning from rap, and thus had to solve the situation. Therefore they all had a popular cause, and everybody wins...

All conspiracy theorist rubbish.

Suge did FIVE YEARS on a parole violation for KICKING SOMEONE … given their clear intent to lock him up at any opportunity they get, if he was involved do you really think they would not have pinned it on him?

I would also suggest to you that Amaru would not work with Death Row (Which they did on three albums - Still I Rise, Until The End Of Time & Better Dayz) if Suge had any involvement in Pac’s murder. Do you honestly believe that Tupac’s mum would have worked with the man who organised her sons murder?

C’mon now.

This is not just a conspiracy theory.


You mentioned the term yourself.

Look at the murders of Big L and Jam Master Jay aswell. No one charged...look at John Lenon...killer found. Allwere famous musicians in their own right...yet you can see the inconsistancies....same goes with Martin Luthar King jr. The government was in on it....SUge was the mastermind.

I believe that John Lennon’s killer was apprehended at the scene? (I could be wrong but I think so) … In all the Rap cases, the killers fled the scene.
 

brook

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meltiger said:
I believe that John Lennon’s killer was apprehended at the scene? (I could be wrong but I think so) … In all the Rap cases, the killers fled the scene.

Indeed he was - it wasn't really a case of 'finding' the killer. Lennon was shot by a deranged fan who never even attempted to leave the scene and just stood by until police arrived and arrested him.

Wasn't a case of brilliant detective work ;-)
 

meltiger

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brook said:
meltiger said:
I believe that John Lennon’s killer was apprehended at the scene? (I could be wrong but I think so) … In all the Rap cases, the killers fled the scene.

Indeed he was - it wasn't really a case of 'finding' the killer. Lennon was shot by a deranged fan who never even attempted to leave the scene and just stood by until police arrived and arrested him.

Wasn't a case of brilliant detective work ;-)

Thanks babe :)

I thought that was the case but wasn't 100% sure :)
 

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