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Who will tank it for Aus at the world cup?

Who will tank it?


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What does everyone have against Hayden, he scores the highest score in Australian ODI history and people are still slinging sh*t at him.
 

lockyno1

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Marshall_magic said:
What does everyone have against Hayden, he scores the highest score in Australian ODI history and people are still slinging sh*t at him.

Wasted too many balls getting to 100 to be honest and it was a raod and we LOST!
 
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so its Haydens fault we lost, he gets almost 3 times as many runs as anyone else, and we can only blame the loss on him, maybe if people could catch, bowl straight, or stay in, we might of won, it certainly wasn't Hayden's fault.
 

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How about this stat...100 off 127 balls! Guess what that is over 4 overs of wasted balls. If he scores off half those balls we win the game. I don't blame Hayden entirely but he should have tried to push his scoring rate a bit earlier.
 

lockyno1

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So what? Doesn't change the fact that he wasted 4 overs getting there. He should have gone for it a bit earlier especially on a postage stamp sized ground.
 

lockyno1

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Jizmizm said:
.........thats still a pretty good strike rate..

Not when MacMillan amongst others were striking at more. All we needed was him to turn half of those 27 balls into singles. That is not that hard on that pitch. It was as flat as a pankake and it was not as if Bond was playing or Vettori!
 

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Some of you fools fail at logic. To say "we needed more runs, he should have done X" is a classic example of hindsight being 20/20. What if he'd tried to go earlier, and got out and triggered a collapse? You'd all be on here bagging him for it. It's completely ridiculous, going by your logic after any loss we can now single out any player, no matter how good the performance, and say he should have done more. If Pakistan lose, Afridi should have got his hundred in 18 balls instead of 36. If Australia lose, McGrath should have taken 8-15 off 10 instead of a pathetic 4-30.

He did far more than what was asked of him. Why don't you look up how many scores in excess of 150 have been made in the last few seasons, and how many have been scored at greater than a run a ball? Setting a target is a different matter from a chase. You cant play with as great a freedom because you dont know in the end what number of runs will be necessary - at the same time you dont want to take too many risks for fear of selling the team short. Most sides would consider 346 to be a defendable total on any ground in the world and on any surface - aside from the New Zealand matches scores like that are pretty uncommon.The chasing team has the equation laid out for them , and they can plan based on that. They can afford to take more risks because they have less to lose, especially with a target of that magnitude that noone expects them to chase.

Anyway the truth is that it was the bowling that lost the game. Far too many 4-balls to relieve the pressure before it could build on the batsmen.
 

JJ

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lockyno1 said:
How about this stat...100 off 127 balls! Guess what that is over 4 overs of wasted balls. If he scores off half those balls we win the game. I don't blame Hayden entirely but he should have tried to push his scoring rate a bit earlier.

This is why everyone thinks you're an idiot locky...


Shaun Tait, Stu Clark, Glenn McGrath, and Adam Gilchrist should probably be on that list too...

Tait is a lock IMO
 

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lockyno1 said:
So what? Doesn't change the fact that he wasted 4 overs getting there. He should have gone for it a bit earlier especially on a postage stamp sized ground.

I'm stunned.

You spend all this time sticking up for non-performer Watson then bag Hayden for scoring 181.

Whatever
 

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whether it's a walking slog or not, it's pretty effective... All Gilchrist does is slog too - more runs to cow corner than anyone I reckon... looks like your average social club cricketer that's been gifted with mazing vision
 

FinalSolution

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lockyno1 said:
How about this stat...100 off 127 balls! Guess what that is over 4 overs of wasted balls. If he scores off half those balls we win the game. I don't blame Hayden entirely but he should have tried to push his scoring rate a bit earlier.

LOL what a tool. The only batsman to have a SR below 100 was Shane Watsh*t. Add that to his performance with the ball. The Aussie most responsible for the loss is Watsh*t.

Runs B/F S/R
ML Hayden not out 181 166 109.03
SR Watsonlbw b Patel 68 69 98.55
BJ Haddinc Vincent b Tuffey 38 31 122.58
BJ Hodgeb Patel 12 10 120.00
MEK Husseyc McCullum b Gillespie 13 81 62.50
CL Whitec Styris b Gillespie 13 8 162.50
AC Vogesnot out 16 10 160.00

Overs
NW Bracken 9.3 0 44 14.63(3w)
SW Tait 10
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0 60 26.00(3w)
MG Johnson 10
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0 81 38.10(2w)
SR Watson 10
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0 88 28.80 (1nb, 1w)
GB Hogg 7
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0 40 5.71(1w)
AC Voges 3
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0 33 11.00
 

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JJ said:
whether it's a walking slog or not, it's pretty effective... All Gilchrist does is slog too - more runs to cow corner than anyone I reckon... looks like your average social club cricketer that's been gifted with mazing vision

you gotta be kidding? sure gilly doesnt work the single as much as he should, but the fact remains he can hit orthodox shots to all parts of the boundary. unlike hayden, who is very restricted, this often contributes to his slow strokeplay
 

JJ

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Not really - Hayden's an unlikeable merkin, but why don't people say that instead of bagging his cricket, which as his record shows is very good..

Seriously, locky is bagging him for scoring 180 at better than run a ball :crazy:
 

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no.2_lukeburt said:
you gotta be kidding? sure gilly doesnt work the single as much as he should, but the fact remains he can hit orthodox shots to all parts of the boundary. unlike hayden, who is very restricted, this often contributes to his slow strokeplay

Hayden isn't a slow scorer, he's a fast scorer, fact. Both test and ODI strike rates are good.
 
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