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When you're comparing a world class player to a young bloke starting to find his top form, you're going to get it.
Not often you get a thread dealt with by the 4th post, but here it is
FTR, canberra with Cooper Cronk, or any top class halfback, would be a fair dinkum contender. Its the only missing link but the most important by far.
We have 11 current/former rep players in our squad. You have 9.
By that logic there isn't much difference.
rubbish. qualify your answer. there arn't many more influential people at club level in the game than robbie farah, and i'd have him in my team over thurston in a second. goes for 80 minutes and does some tackling while he's at it, too.Can't be that good of an analyst if you think farah is better then JT
farah and benji were both extremely influential in their '05 premiership, moreso than any of thurstons involvement in the premiership he has won, and to say otherwise is foolish. the only thing left for your "arguement" is that he's won 2 media popularity awards. good on ya JT!Thurston is a two time Dally M winner and comfortably the best halfback in the game and better than Robbie Farah and Benji Marshall. Those guys are yet to prove anything other than they are immensely talented, they haven't guided their side to a premiership although they were involved in one, and they have for the last 4 seasons failed to even make the semi finals. Greg Inglis and Billy Slater might be on their day as good but there are plently of quality centres and fullbacks in the game, not plenty of halfbacks of JTs class, in fact there aren't any.
I know many many "football analysts" that would highly disagree with you. You are entitled to your opinion but please save us the I am a better poster than you BS.
somebody mentioned the best player for QLD the past 4 years. that player is steve price, not johnathon thurston. you may have to read my posts a bit slower in the future, but please try and keep up. i then chose to qualify my answer and where JT rates on my radar as far as "best in the game" goes. whether you agree with me or not is of little consequence. continue with your hissy fit.uhh..... nobody mentioned Steve Price, except you. And we weren't talking about Cam Smith, Greg Inglis, Billy Slater, Robbie Farah or Benji Marshall either.
how often do you watch JT play? honestly? im not saying it happens every game, and he's had a good start to this season, but the bloke is a ghost out there sometimes. people seem to love it that he touches the ball in a backline movement... and the commentators certainly go ballistic, i'll admit it's quite the spectacle! as far as actual influence in those 30 minutes goes, he does sweet bugger f**k all, quite often too. sadly i don't have access to the level of statistics and replays i require to prove or disprove my hypothesis.Thurston is a machine. You don't have to think he's the best player, but to say Thurston goes MIA is one of the most absurd things I've read on this forum.
can't argue with any of this, totally agree. QFT.The Cowboys have been but Thurston hasn't. The Cowboys rely on their big 4 Bowen, Thurston, Payne and O'Donnell and getting them all on the park at once seems too hard for the Cowboys. I think laying the blame on Thurston for the Cowboys inconsistency is wrong and would have him in a heartbeat over any other halfback unless I wanted to play Thurston as a 5/8 which I wouldnt mind doing but I definitely would never pick Pearce over him.
Cronk is a very good halfback but it is easy having the best fullback, centre and hooker in the game all in your side isn't it? I think it is.
also agree with this regarding thurston, absolutely spot on. QFTx2. the part that doesn't sit right with me is that judging NSW players based on their performance at origin level the past 4 years is a completely flawed concept. QLD as a unit have been far superior to NSW across the board the last 4 years in talent and, most importantly, passion and desire to win. regardless of any of that, i have been (and still am) under the impression that we are talking about club football, and the prospective value of the players in question to their team.Of course Cooper Cronk is a fantastic halfback, let's see how he goes with a team like the Sharks or perhaps Canberra.
And of course you'd have Benji Marshall or Robbie Farah, but how good do they look without each other? Hell even in Origin Farah struggles bigtime.
Apparently Thurston's expected to do it on his own, when if some of you actually paid attention you'd realise when the Cowboys win games or do well, he actually doesn't do it on his own.
even less relevant than things i brought up earlier, but i agree 100%.FTR, canberra with Cooper Cronk, or any top class halfback, would be a fair dinkum contender. Its the only missing link but the most important by far.
uncalled for, untrue and unqualified. the funniest thing i find about this post is that 99% of the time i agree with you, and always post thusly. not sure what this says about your own analysis of the game. perhaps you only remember the times when we've disagreed. i'm certainly going to lose a lot of sleep tonight knowing that i havent earned your approval, but thanks for the input on the subject, lol. i generally respect and enjoy reading over your opinions, because most of the time i do agree with them. interesting that you feel the opposite way, but ill keep it in mind in the future.Whilst i think you shade him, i dont think your that far ahead. Lets get real here, you're pretty hopeless
... and this, ladies and gentlemen, is the crux of it. the forum as a whole bitches and moans about media darlings... and yet i list a handful of players i'd prefer at my club - whilst even conceding in the VERY SAME POST that yes, thurston is the best halfback in the league at the moment... and suddenly there's a heap of fanboys and detractors ready to tell me how wrong i am about the best player on the planet right now (lol).I reckon Thurston is overrated to a degree. That doesn't mean I think he's crap or anything, it just puts my general opinion on him in the same category as Hayne last year. He was in fantastic form, but I wasn't cracking a boner like some. Thurston is a good player, however I can't agree with some of the accolades he gets.
Don't get me wrong, I'd still have him over Pearce and over any half in the competition - for a right and realistic price. Well, maybe not actually, I'd probably take Cronk over him because I think he'd suit the Knights better.
It's funny how people on these boards complain and whine that particular players are protected species in the media yet they're guilty of having their own protected species on the forums here. Can't say a word bad about them, lol. It's also amazing how many opinions become based on reputation rather than actually watching the players play.
Can't be that good of an analyst if you think farah is better then JT
rubbish. qualify your answer. there arn't many more influential people at club level in the game than robbie farah, and i'd have him in my team over thurston in a second. goes for 80 minutes and does some tackling while he's at it, too.
It's true Thurston is currently a better player than Pearce. I would prefer Pearce at my club than Thurston. Pearce only over the past 6 weeks has started to show the potential the club believed he posessed . The whole club had been suffering over the past 2 years under incompetent coaches which hurt performances of all players. Pearce just turned 21 this month, clubs were not clambering for Thurston at that age. So I will join the eight who opted for Pearce at my club.Brian Smith single handedly turned the club around to what should be a better year for the Roosters.Voting currently at 58-8 in favour of Thurston, lol ... one of the most dominant poll responses ever on here!
you're using 4 rounds of football statistics to judge who the better player is?How about you qualify your answer, simply saying that Robbie Farah is more influential doesn't make it so. If Robbie didn't have Benji Marshall playing with him he would be pretty useless.
Here is a few stats for you for the first four rounds as Thurston was injured from the 5th:
Thurston: Tackles: 70, Tries 2, Try Assists 6, Line Breaks 4, Line Break Assist 6
Farrah: Tackles:122, Tries 1, Try Assists 2, Line Breaks 1, Line Break Assist 2
Yes Robbie "goes for 80 minutes and does some tackling while he's at it" but Thurston has more tries, try assists, Line Breaks, Line break assists then Farah which in my opinion would suggest he is more influential then Farrah.
I'd Have Thurston over Farrah in my team anyday of the week.