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Why did Souths re-sign John Sutton?

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Why did Souths re-sign John Sutton?

Forty-four years ago advertising man Charles Rosner coined the catchphrase, ‘If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.’ Rosner might not have been big on rugby league (being American and all), but even he would have been able to see that John Sutton has been given enough chances already. Souths have a highly-rated pack (currently underperforming, but still full of talent) and a serviceable backline. Even given the lack of go-forward, it is glaringly obvious that the Rabbitohs lack class at the scrumbase.

Many people believe that Chris Sandow will never become a top-line halfback. He lacks touch with his kicking, and despite brilliance as a ball-runner he does not show strong organisational skills. Given that Souths have expressed a desire to retain him (although Parramatta is also believed to be interested) the only option is to break the halves combination that has consistently failed to fire. Sutton has strong claims on the title of most frustrating player in the competition, given his obvious talent and physical prowess. Too often he looks like he would rather be splashing around in Maroubra surf rather than tackling opponents. As the senior player he should be taking pressure off Sandow, but he fails in this duty. He also fails to give star back Greg Inglis enough quality ball.

Despite all this, Sutton has been given a three-year contract extension, no doubt on big money – when offloading him could have eased salary cap pressures and given the player himself the opportunity for reinvention at another club. Souths should now trade Sandow and look for a better halfback option or the club will continue its recent record of mediocrity.

http://www.bigpondsport.com/titans-p...5/default.aspx
 

BunniesMan

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Looks like the author will get his wish with Sandow. But if we have to choose between the two, Sutton isn't the one we should have chosen. At least not at 6.
 

DC_fan

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The problem is their is a real shortage of, even average #6 (which Sutton is) in the game today let alone quality #6's. Souths probably thought they couldn't find anyone better then Sutton so they decided to stick with him.

As I have said a million times before, Suttons best position is lock.
 

Mr Fourex

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Sutton is the laziest player in the NRL and IMHO has held that title for the last 3 yrs

Rusty must have rocks in his head to resign him.

They should have written in the contract that he will be paid by the number of times he touches the ball in a game.

That'll wake him the f*ck up ...............
 

boo_boo

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I think that Sutto just needs a position change to give him back his confidence & the incentive to play to his potential.
For once i think that management have made the correct decision.
 

liquor box

Juniors
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The problem is their is a real shortage of, even average #6 (which Sutton is) in the game today let alone quality #6's. Souths probably thought they couldn't find anyone better then Sutton so they decided to stick with him.

As I have said a million times before, Suttons best position is lock.
Is there a reason he cant play at 7? He has a great passing game when given the chance and as a half he would get plenty of opportunity to pass the ball, he could bring a great running game as his size would allow a break and offload.

Every other position on the field has biiger athletes playing in them now so why not have a huge halfback?
 

Paul Hewson

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With the salary cap exemption for 10 year players, Sutton was a must sign. From 2013 he will have $200k taken from the salary cap. The only other player close to having 10 years at Souths is Shannon McPherson.
 

Noa

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Hopefully he moves to 13, or even edge 2nd rower would really suit him.
 

Mattyoh

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Agree with moving him 13 and still parking him inside Taylor and GI on the left. He is a good runner of the ball and what we need is a link man at 6.
 

DC_fan

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Is there a reason he cant play at 7? He has a great passing game when given the chance and as a half he would get plenty of opportunity to pass the ball, he could bring a great running game as his size would allow a break and offload.

Every other position on the field has biiger athletes playing in them now so why not have a huge halfback?

He is not a good organiser. He doesn't have a consistently good kicking game. He is not quick enough, both between the ears and with his feet.

I would think others can come up with more reasons he wouldn't make it at #7.
 

RAB-161

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With the salary cap exemption for 10 year players, Sutton was a must sign. From 2013 he will have $200k taken from the salary cap. The only other player close to having 10 years at Souths is Shannon McPherson.
Nathan Merrit, Luke Stuart, Scott Geddes.
 

DC_fan

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Nathan Merrit, Luke Stuart, Scott Geddes.

Stuart was a 10 year player for Souths this season. But with his current injury his career sadly is all but over.

Geddes is also a 10 year player for Souths this season. But as is the norm with Scott he is presently injured. Not sure what his contract details are, but I will be surprised if he is with us next season.

Its my understanding that the Salary Cap discount for 10 years service to a club is for players who have played 10 consecutive years at a club.

Nathan played for the Sharks in 2004-5. So he has only played for Souths for the past 6 seaons
 

natheel

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its a big risk either way...sign him and hope he plays consistently (mcguire may have plans for him though) or let him go to another club and be haunted by him and regret losing him he just that type of player just like mateo with us.

as an eels fan id welcome sandow with open arms if he signs he is what we need an established halfback BUT in saying that itll be sad to see him leave the bunnies because hes such a passionate player
 

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