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Why it is all unravelling at Parramatta

Gronk

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by Jason Taylor








After last week's dismal showing against North Queensland, the buzz word at the Parramatta Eels has been attitude. "We need an attitude adjustment," was the comment from Eels skipper Nathan Hindmarsh. So what does "attitude" really mean in the world of rugby league? Effort and commitment. Any team who loses by 36 points can definitely do with an improvement in their effort and commitment. However, from a coaching perspective, it is important not to gloss over deficiencies that may have developed in your team's play in the hope that a better attitude will fix all of your problems.
Last Friday we saw St George Illawarra bounce back from a poor performance by thrashing Wests Tigers 36-12 . The Dragons' turnaround after a 30-4 loss to Canterbury was attributed to an improvement in attitude. What is important to note, though, is that the Dragons had performed well in round one with a strong win against Newcastle and after last week's win have won two of their three matches. The upshot of this is that the Dragons have proven they have effective systems in place and provided their attitude is right, they will win their share of games this season.
Parramatta, on the other hand, have lost all three of their games. While their attitude and performances in rounds one and two were better than last week, they still weren't able to win. In fact, when one looks closely at their game last Saturday night, particularly in the first half, what stands out is a lack of defensive co-ordination rather than effort or commitment.
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The Eels versus the Cowboys last Saturday.

Defensive line-speed is a good way to measure a team's attitude. A line that moves up quickly is a positive sign whereas slow line-speed indicates a poor attitude. In last week's game the Eels edge-defenders displayed some good line speed where they moved forward to pressure North Queensland's attackers. In this way, the Eels defenders demonstrated both effort and commitment to the task. However, on numerous occasions the effort these players put in was poorly timed and lacked co-ordination with the remainder of the defensive line. Ultimately, they applied pressure to themselves, instead of the opposition.
Picture one is a good example of this. It shows North Queensland forward Jason Taumalolo running the ball to the outside of Eels five-eighth Ben Roberts, along the line of the arrow. In anticipation of the ball being passed to Cowboys centre Brent Tate, Eels defenders Willie Tonga and Luke Burt have raced forward to tackle Tate. This effort from Tonga and Burt ensured Tate wouldn't receive the ball. However, by racing up ahead of Roberts, before the ball was passed to Tate, Tonga and Burt left Roberts one-on-one with a bigger and stronger player. Without Tonga's help in the tackle, Roberts was unable to stop Taumalolo. The rampaging back-rower steamed down-field before sending Ashley Graham in to score.
Picture two is the lead-up to another North Queensland try and again highlights how Parramatta's efforts to pressure the Cowboys attack were misguided. Three Parramatta defenders, Taniela Lasalo, Ryan Morgan and Chris Sandow, have raced forward almost 10 metres to pressure the Cowboys attack and limit their metres. However, Cowboys captain Johnathan Thurston was standing at first receiver when the defenders started coming forward. Thurston had a number of players on his outside ready to receive the ball. Thurston had caught the ball and was already drifting across field, yet the Parramatta defenders continued to come forward. The Eels line was committing defensive suicide by racing up at Thurston.
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The Eels versus the Cowboys last Saturday.

In the picture, Sandow has two Cowboys attackers on his outside whom he was unable to tackle after coming forward so quickly. Thurston then passed the ball to Cowboys centre Kane Linnett who raced downfield. Two more passes and a kick ensued before fullback Matt Bowen scored the try. The damage was done when the three Parramatta defenders tried to pressure Thurston, one of the game's premier attacking players, without having his support players sufficiently covered.
The right attitude is always important but I get the feeling the Eels will need more than an attitude adjustment tonight. A co-ordinated, more-aware defensive line would be a great start if they are to be a chance of getting their first win of the season against the Panthers.
 

yy_cheng

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A co-ordinated, more-aware defensive line would be a great start if they are to be a chance of getting their first win of the season against the Panthers


This is why i partially ba e tbe coaxhing staff.

And the player selections and the bench changes lkke mk and casey and fui and poore

The coach has also contributed to the loss as well
 

Gronk

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I don't think that the Cowboys game is a true indication of how far we are from where we want to be, Jason.
 

DeanPay98

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Actually JT makes a lot of sense. And in light of Hindy's remarks about the offloads in another article it looks like the problem isn't the coaching on the offload but rather this tactic, if it is that, of pressuring certain attacking players.
 

TheParraboy

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so whats JT saying, if the attitude is fine are we then just being out coached week in week out?
 
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players look scared to offload. SK has told them to use the right time but they are too scared to offload at the wrong time so they don't do it at all.
 

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What the first picture shows is that both Burt and Tonga made it to Tate first so Roberts was it.
 

born an eel

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players look scared to offload. SK has told them to use the right time but they are too scared to offload at the wrong time so they don't do it at all.
Don't know what they would be scared of, besides Burt nobody seems to be paying the penalty for "not following coaches instructions".

What has to be remembered was that Roberts was playing NSW cup last year, it was no mystery he had some problems with his game, why are people so suprised he missed a few tackles. It's not as if he was some undiscovered talent thay Kearney discovered that nobody knew about.
 

JoeyJoJo83

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I've been saying this after each loss, our D is f**ked. People bitch about having Hayne out and not offloading so on and so on. If we cannot defend for 80mins we will not win simple as that.

Last year we defended well and hanged in there with some of the best teams in the comp yet we lost due to no attacking halves.

This year it's the opposite, we have the attacking halves but can't defend for shit.
 

SeftonBoy

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The Schaeffmeister is 100% correct. Highlights Burt making wrong decision in defence & leaving Graham unmarked. Even though that play didn't eventuate next time it will. Don't know why he is assisting an Australian representative centre in Tonga who had only 1 man on him & left his man unmarked. Shows that he isn't confortable on the 1 on 1 because he misses a lot.

As I said last season Burt is a wingers arsehole & an even worse fullback. Back to Wenty Luke. Next time you play NSW Cup you might come up against a side who might have a few fringe 1st graders & not a team that gets lapped every week.
 

Mr Pmatta

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Had Tonga and Burt not rushed up that try would have not been scored, very poor defensive read.
It's a shame we dont learn from our mistakes, we have history regarding running out of the defensive line with EGJ and B Smith doing the same in the past.
 

E_Cantona

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JT does have a couple of valid points about the bad reads in defence. But i still think the main problem was last week was...
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born an eel

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Had Tonga and Burt not rushed up that try would have not been scored, very poor defensive read.
if roberts makes the tackle or at least slows him down until assitance arrives from the inside nobody scores.

if you really want to i'm sure you can try and blame burt for every mistake made over the last 2 seasons. :crazy:
 

JoeyJoJo83

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if roberts makes the tackle or at least slows him down until assitance arrives from the inside nobody scores.

if you really want to i'm sure you can try and blame burt for every mistake made over the last 2 seasons. :crazy:

Mate watch the replay of this try, Tonga and Burt mad a bad defensive call, they both rushed up leaving Roberts to go one on one, if anything Tonga should have stayed in and Burt should have come off his wing to cover Tate
 
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Ollie Webb

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At the end of the day it comes down to;
1. structure of defence
2. discipline
3. communication

They appear to be lost souls in defence and ineffective.
 

born an eel

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Mate watch the replay of this try, Tonga and Burt mad a bad defensive call, they both rushed up leaving Roberts to go one on one, if anything Tonga should have stayed in and Burt should have come off his wing to cover Tate
So we agree it was what happened on the inside that was the problem. I assumed you were trying to blame burt soley for the mistake but that was others.
 

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