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Why little mention of the CQ NRL bid?

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Is there any reasons the eventual NRL team if bid is succesful wouldn't/couldn't be called the CQ Capras? Given we now have a few years I would have thought growing a recognised brand from an existing club up there would have been a positive way forward?
 

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capras has always been rocky, central highlands and Gladstone. though in recent times Gladstone less so due to a lot of shiftworkers. bundaberg is the bears than regionally fall with wide bay bulls at Jr level. mackay are the seaeagles than cutters in qcup. the brand will be a new one that all regions can relate to plus will have marketing benefits
 

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'Have a crack, boys': Expansion delay opens door for AFL plunder

Date October 29, 2012

Phil Lutton

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The AFL is poised to make a move on rugby league heartland.

The NRL's decision to take expansion off the table has given AFL the green light to swoop into potentially lucrative regions, according to the chief of the Central Queensland consortium.
Denis Keeffe says he understands the commercial rationale that has driven the Australian Rugby League Commission's move to delay adding new teams to the competition, with chairman John Grant saying there would be no discussion about expanding the league until the end of 2014.
That means any additional NRL teams wouldn't be up and running until 2017 at the earliest.
Keeffe said the news, which was part of the ARLC's five-year plan delivered in Sydney, came as little surprise as the bid was informed last week that the seven rival consortiums shouldn't be getting ready for a mad dash to the line.
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While Keeffe agreed there should be a focus on ensuring the longevity of the existing clubs, revealing the specifics of the game's non-expansion plans would be music to the ears of the AFL, which has been aggressively forging new ground in traditional league country.
"I knew that was coming, because we talked to the NRL as late as last week. And I do agree with the rationale. It is important that the existing clubs are strong and viable," Keeffe said.
"But I think there might be a twist or two. I understand they are talking about the commercial value but there is a really intrinsic strategic value to what we're trying to do here. We have a very aggressive AFL in our region and there is no national sporting team between the Sunshine Coast and Townsville.
"Even though the NRL, in their wisdom, have said this is our program and are informing us, they're also informing the enemy. You're telling the enemy that we aren't going to work much towards the strategic value in the heartland.”
Central Queensland doesn't sound like a natural lair for the AFL to expand, but the code is taking steps to win fans in a region still experiencing a massive financial bounce and population boost from mining and gas interests.
The Gold Coast Suns have zoned Mackay in their 'Talent Academy' zone, which stretches from Bundaberg to the tip of the state. Keeffe said while the CQ bid team had been active on the ground to sign members and enthuse juniors, they were getting serious competition from rival codes.
"I'm not saying that they (ARLC) rushed it but if you tell the enemy that we're not going to invest in here in a strategic sense for the next four or five years, I think you're saying the AFL can come in and be more aggressive. Because they're very aggressive here now," Keeffe said.
"I think someone's going to have a look at this and say hang on, the Suns have got a very big development program operating in Mackay. Will they grow that? I'm sure they will. This is a bit like saying 'have a crack, boys'.
"In the NRL's haste to actually paint the clear picture for rugby league people, they've also painted a clear picture for people with interests in our heartland.
“If I was sitting on the AFL fence now, I'd be thinking there is not going to be any NRL movement between Townsville and the Sunshine Coast. It's vacant land.
"When some of the second and third tier things relevant to the announcement become obvious, we're going to say – is this really want we want to achieve?"
Keeffe said the bid wouldn't be deterred by the lack of progression in the expansion process and the CQ team would continued to try and recruit members and enthuse juniors in what is already a diehard rugby league region.
But he reminded the game's powerbrokers not to take that passion for granted while AFL continues to knaw away at the foundations through programs like AusKick.
"With the mass migration into Central Queensland with all of the big mining projects – it's booming here – I'm looking at the risk. Don't just think rugby league is going to be here when you come back in five years time," Keeffe said.
"Things are dynamic in this part of the world. If we drop off now and put the cue in the rack and go home, it's like opening the doors and saying 'come in and do what you like'."
Still, Keeffe said the group was more determined than ever to win the right to start a team in Central Queensland and would remain active with the supporters and corporate partners.
"Some people might think we might drop off. I'm more enthused than ever. We're here for the long haul. As far as I'm concerned, it's going to happen," he said.
Brisbane Bombers bid chief Craig Davison said his franchise had a '100-year plan' to establish a second club in the Queensland capital and wasn't deterred by the time frame.
"There's now a direction there that at the end of 2014, they're going to investigate that proposal for expansion. It's a 100-year plus plan so two more years is not going to make much of a difference at all," Davison said.
"It just means we can prepare further for what is likely going to be a very interesting tussle to get another team in Brisbane."

 

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What's Davison's 100 year plan? Lol...
The thought of an 100 year plan is crazy. Some development and serious advancement like the ARLC has suggested this week would be best (i.e. grassroots, junior development, QCup or NSW Cup, or funding other items within a bid's region)
 

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lol, why do they think AFL would move in and be more popular? Do they think they are going to have a AFL team on the CQ? No of course not so why does it mean that not having a NRL team will see the area lost to RL? Typical BS scare mongering. Quick give Perth a team or the AFL will launch a thrid team here blah, blah.

I think that photo says it all about how big a threat AFL is to CQ!
 

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Couldn't agree with you more. However you have used similar tactics in your reasons why the NRL should have a club in WA just with rugby union instead. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though as or comments were made directly after the news that we'll look at expansion in 2014. You've seem to calm down since then and have made some very good post.
 

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Difference is RU put the western force into Perth to give them the presence and regularly play test matches here. Something the afl won't and can't do in rockhampton!
 

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When the ARLC Chairman, John Grant, recently announced that the NRL would not address expansion until 2014 some heads dropped and in some regions and cities, the “cue was put firmly back in the rack” i.e. some NRL expansion Bidders threw their hands in the air and gave up the fight or at least put their expansion activities “on indefinite hold”.
The exact opposite has occurred here in Central Queensland. In fact the CQ NRL Bid took heart from John’s detail and advice. The Independent Chairman gave some valid reasons for its announced 2014 timing and I do agree that priority must be given to ensuring the long term viability of the 16 existing NRL Clubs. No business can prosper if the core participants are continually struggling to provide adequate and secure recompense to their employees as well as a safe and enjoyable environment for their fans who attend the home games. If viability and sustainability are the prerequisites for NRL participation, the CQ NRL Bid is in a very strong position when expansion is considered. We have centred our whole compelling argument for NRL inclusion on assured VIABILITY and a game presentation package in a world class, affordable, family friendly stadium that will provide the very best facilities to all stakeholders including players, media, corporate partners, and the avid Rugby League fans of CQ.
When John Grant asked the bidding cities and regions to increase their engagement with local grass roots Rugby League associations and activities while continuing their bidding campaigns, I was very genuinely excited.
Every successful business must have a product in demand and a delivery system that consumers expect but most importantly a successful business must possess that vital “point-of-difference” to other operatives. Compared to most, if not all other NRL Bidders, the CQ NRL Bid’s primary point-of-difference is our engagement with the general and Rugby League communities of Central Queensland.
I am sure that no other bidding region, and especially the other Queensland bidders, our primary opposition, have a range of engagement programs that the CQ Bid currently operates. I could be wrong, but if I have missed something, could they please detail their comparison programs
http://www.cqnrlbid.com.au/2012/11/as-committed-as-ever/

He does like to go on about Jnr development like his is the only bid doing anything. PNG have by far done the most at grass roots level of any bid, Bears and Pirates have also been doing significant Jnr development. Only the Q'land bids fail against the work the CQ bid has done so he should level his critiscm at the other Q'land bids, not everyone else.
 

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NRL star hopes bid saves local players

By Alice Roberts and Kallee Buchanan

The CQ NRL Bid hopes that if they're successful in obtaining a local team, it will encourage young players to pursue football as a career and stay in the region.





They say many players selected for professional teams struggle with being away from their support network.
Former NRL player and Central Queensland Indigenous Development Operations Manager Justin Loomans says having a CQ rugby league team would reduce the number of youngsters giving the sport away.
"If we have a team here yes it's going to be great to have all these local players and you're still in your own home base but I also believe that we have players now and in the past that were good enough to play at the top level but just didn't want to leave the region," he says.
He says the transition from home to the city can be tough on youth.
"The way rugby league is going at the moment, you know these kids are at such a young age when clubs want to pick them up or sign them and take them down south," he says.
"It's a really difficult thing when you get to the city without your parents there, without the support network and when you're up here you're a super star and mum and dad pat you on the back and everyone thinks it's great.
"Down there when you have a bad day, you've still got to get home, do your own washing, cook your own food and all of a sudden it gets pretty tough."
But even if players are selected to play at the next level, it's not guaranteed they'll make it as an NRL player.
"The way the league goes is it takes a lot of kids and a lot of the time, they're throwing a big net out there in the hope that there's a Darren Lockyer or a Matty Bowen or somebody like that in there," says Justin.
"Unfortunately history has shown us that a lot of good, talented kids have left the country areas, gone to the city, had bad experiences, come home and then stopped playing footy altogether which is a real shame."
He says while players are committed to training sessions, there's also a lot of free time which can become a trap for youngsters who are experiencing city life for the first time.
"Yes they're down to play football and further their dream but it's also a life experience and like most young blokes you want to take advantage of that," he says.
"It's a very fine line to stay in touch with what you're there to do without getting caught up in the outside and what's going on."
He says he knows what it's like from experience.
"I left Rockhampton to go to Townsville which was great but when I left Townsville to go to Sydney I can tell you that the first four or five weeks I was there, I thought this place is not for me," he says.
"I loved the Rabbitohs because I loved football and that was good but Sydney just wasn't my lifestyle."
Justin says some will come home and continue to play for the local rugby team but others will give the game away for good.
He hopes a local team will prevent that from happening.


http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/11/08/3628634.htm
 

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"CQ could become an AFL heartland" lol, is RL really so weak on the CQ? If it is a real concern then the QRL should be getting its fingure out and tapping into the $200mill grass roots funding to make sure it doesn't. If every region needs an NRL team to make sure AFL doesn't take over we would be looking at a very large competition!

Exactly how would AFL "win the race to bring national professional sport to CQ"? Is he suggesting they will have an AFL team on Rockhampton? :)

"We are the only bid that's doing anything for grass roots" Stop BS'ing Murphy, there are 3 other bids that are doing equal if not more than the CQ bid for Jnr development.

I like the CQ bid as it is engaging the people but the lies about grass roots development is turning me off them.
 

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New recruit has the right attitude for the CQ Capras outfit



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CQ Capras' new signing Jamie Cairney. Photo: Contributed. Contributed
RUGBY LEAGUE: As the Central Queensland Capras prepare to start pre-season training on Monday, coach John Harbin has revealed a new signing.
The new recruit for the 2013 Intrust Super Cup team is Jamie Cairney, a 19-year-old, 112kg front rower from Illawarra.
Last year, Cairney played A-grade for Shellharbour. He also represented Illawarra Jersey Flegg and played for the under-18 New South Wales Country side.
The talented forward has also been part of the Saint George-Illawarra Dragons development system.
Head coach Harbin said a player of Cairney's callibre will bolster the Capras.
"Jamie's an out and out front-rower who we have recruited from what many people regard as the best regional competition in the country alongside Newcastle," Harbin explained.
"Jamie is a top kid and his attitude is spot-on."
Joint CQ NRL Bid and Capras operations manager Walson Carlos added it was a very exciting time for the club.
"It's an exciting time for the CQ Capras club and it's great to see that John's roster is coming together well for the 2013 season," Carlos said.
"As a club our focus now is on engaging the Central Queensland community through CQ Capras' memberships. Alongside increased corporate support this is one of the big objectives we will be driving at the CQ Capras club heading into the 2013 season."

While living in Rockhampton and playing for the CQ Capras, Cairney will work for Pink Lily Sands.

http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/new-recruit-has-right-attitude-cq-capras-outfit/1623762/
 

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Giant Prop Gives CQ Capras A Lift



16/11/2012 8:47:13 AM

THE CQ Capras have today announced 19-year old Jamie Cairney as a new addition to the squad for 2013.
A 112kg front-rower, Cairney has arrived in Rockhampton after playing last season for the Shellharbour side in the Illawarra competition.
CQ Capras Coach John Harbin welcomed the addition of Cairney to his squad;
“Jamie is a top kid and he has come out of a competition that many people regard as the best regional competition in the country. He’s an out-and-out front-rower and will strengthen the depth in our squad,” Harbin said.
Newly appointed CEO Denis Keeffe said the Capras were building nicely for the 2013 season.
“The squad is coming together quite nicely for the upcoming season," he said.
"One thing I can guarantee is that this team will turn up every week and give their all for the CQ Capras. We need the community to get behind the Capras for this club to be successful. The best way to do that is to get online and become a member. Our 2013 memberships go on sale Monday.”
The CQ Capras play trial games at Browne Park on February 9 against a Brisbane Broncos U20s side and on February 16 against the Mackay Cutters.
Jamie Cairney represented the NSW U16 side and played SG Ball for the U18 Illawarra Steelers.

http://www.qrl.com.au/default.aspx?...65961&title=giant-prop-gives-cq-capras-a-lift



Central Queensland Capras:
Coach: John Harbin
Gains: Jamie Cairney (Shellharbour), Ben Breckon (Clermont), Ian Webster (Gladstone Brothers), Mick Esdale (USA), Todd Titmus (Norths – Rockhampton), Logan Sullivan (Central Highlands), Andrew Dale (Norths – Rockhampton), Lee Mitchell (Castleford Tigers)
Losses: Tim Glasby (Melbourne Storm), Guy Williams (France), Dave McLellan (USA), Mitch Zornig (injured), Reece Goldsmith (NSW), Ben Bromley (France)

http://www.qrl.com.au/default.aspx?...title=intrust-super-cup-player-gains-&-losses
 
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