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some11

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The original movie made me lol.

The surf sequences were filmed at Bells Beach in Vic and in the movie they had palm trees every where.

If you've ever been to Bells you will see there isn't a palm tree in sight and they would literally freeze their nuts off. If you're a surfer the movies was a joke.

That's because it wasn't filmed at Bells Beach at all, it was Indian Beach, Oregon and the wave footage was from Waimea.
 

beave

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That's because it wasn't filmed at Bells Beach at all, it was Indian Beach, Oregon and the wave footage was from Waimea.

I think thats the point Twiz was trying to make mate...... Albeit poorly!!! ;-P
 

Springs

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You know there is still 50+ original movies coming out this year. Last year was a great year for movies. Hollywood is certainly not out of ideas because of remakes and reboots.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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Lol at the article calling it a culmination as if they've reached their peak and this will be it.

Crow, escape from New York, flatliners, flight if the navigator, gremlins, highlander, it, jumanji, Conan (again), Logan's Run, mortal kombat, the mummy, the warriors, national lampoons vacation, police academy, poltergeist, short circuit, starship troopers, time cop, terminator, tomb raider, war games, weird science, waterworld (as if the first didn't flop enough).

And so on and so on....
 

T.S Quint

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Hollywood's out of ideas.

Wrong.
As Springs said above there are many original (ie not a sequel, prequel or remake) movies released every single year.
Are you including movies made from a novel or autobiography as well? Because those have been made pretty much ever since film has been a medium.

Just last year these movies were released that were not sequels or remakes:

Wolf Of Wall Street
12 Years A slave
Dallas Byers Club
Her
American Hustle
Gravity
Captain Phillips
Nebraska
Prisoners
Escape PLan
The Counsellor
Rush
Last Vegas
All Is Lost
Don Jon
Homefront
Blue Jasmine
This Is The End
We're The Millers
Saving Mr Banks
The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty
Now You See Me
Epic
The Croods
Gangster Squad
Runner Runner
Pacific Rim
The Purge
Labour Day
After Earth
The Conjuring
Elysium
The Family
Inside Llewyn Davis
Oblivion
2 Guns
Movie 43
White House Down
The Internship
The Way Way Back
The World's End
The Heat
Olympus Has Fallen
Warm Bodies
Hansel And Gretel: Witch Hunters

And that is just a fraction of the original movies released in 2013.
How many movies do you think were released that were remakes or sequels?
 

T.S Quint

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Lol at the article calling it a culmination as if they've reached their peak and this will be it.

Crow, escape from New York, flatliners, flight if the navigator, gremlins, highlander, it, jumanji, Conan (again), Logan's Run, mortal kombat, the mummy, the warriors, national lampoons vacation, police academy, poltergeist, short circuit, starship troopers, time cop, terminator, tomb raider, war games, weird science, waterworld (as if the first didn't flop enough).

And so on and so on....

A few of those I'd actually be interested to see a remake of.
Especially Highlander, Flatliners, It, Mortal Kombat and Tomb Raider.
I could be on board with a Flight Of The Navigator remake even though original does hold a special place in my heart.

You could definitely improve on Short Circuit, Time Cop, Logan's Run and Waterworld. Even Police Academy could be done well with the right people.
 

Walt Flanigan

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They can stop trying to remake Schwarzenegger movies, Arnie made those films.

Conan, Total Recall and Predators were all poor efforts.
 

Pugzley

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Predators and Conan was Ok. Conan, because Rachel Nichols was hot and Predators, because I love the twist of professional assassins and killers being put into a unit and put against the Predator.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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Wrong.
As Springs said above there are many original (ie not a sequel, prequel or remake) movies released every single year.
Are you including movies made from a novel or autobiography as well? Because those have been made pretty much ever since film has been a medium.

Just last year these movies were released that were not sequels or remakes:

Wolf Of Wall Street
12 Years A slave
Dallas Byers Club
Her
American Hustle
Gravity
Captain Phillips
Nebraska
Prisoners
Escape PLan
The Counsellor
Rush
Last Vegas
All Is Lost
Don Jon
Homefront
Blue Jasmine
This Is The End
We're The Millers
Saving Mr Banks
The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty
Now You See Me
Epic
The Croods
Gangster Squad
Runner Runner
Pacific Rim
The Purge
Labour Day
After Earth
The Conjuring
Elysium
The Family
Inside Llewyn Davis
Oblivion
2 Guns
Movie 43
White House Down
The Internship
The Way Way Back
The World's End
The Heat
Olympus Has Fallen
Warm Bodies
Hansel And Gretel: Witch Hunters

And that is just a fraction of the original movies released in 2013.
How many movies do you think were released that were remakes or sequels?

A lot of those are based on something else giving it a pre existing audience and an increased chance of making money.

The other thing, especially in regards to movies like after earth and Elysium, there is very little original thought put into it. Not when you can pay 20k to have a machine formula tell you what changes to make so it's like everything else.
 

Springs

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A lot of those are based on something else giving it a pre existing audience and an increased chance of making money.

The other thing, especially in regards to movies like after earth and Elysium, there is very little original thought put into it. Not when you can pay 20k to have a machine formula tell you what changes to make so it's like everything else.

There's a lot of everything based on something else, including books, TV, music and video games. It doesn't make it any less of an 'original' film since there were no films about them before.

2013 was a fantastic year for movies. Much better than the previous 3 or 4. This year also looks to be pretty good. The Lego Movie, The Grand Budapest Hotel, Noah, Transcendence, Belle, Chef, Wish I Was Here, Guardians of the Galaxy, Lucy, The Giver, If I Stay, Dark Places, The Good Lie, Animal Rescue, Laggies, Gone Girl, The Judge, Interstellar, Fury, Exodus, Paddington, Into the Woods and Unbroken look like worthwhile films that have not been done before.
While there's also 300: Rise of an Empire, Muppets Most Wanted, Captain America 2, Godzilla, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Maleficent, How to Train Your Dragon 2, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Sin City: A Dame to Kill For, Dumb and Dumber To and The Hobbit: There and Back Again that are all sequels or remakes that look to be worthwhile viewing.

Of course there's always going to be the remake, reboot, unnecessary sequel and formulaic action or comedy, but there's always been that in Hollywood. It's not like there was once 100 4 star original movies released every year.
 

Danish

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Wrong.
As Springs said above there are many original (ie not a sequel, prequel or remake) movies released every single year.
Are you including movies made from a novel or autobiography as well? Because those have been made pretty much ever since film has been a medium.

Just last year these movies were released that were not sequels or remakes:

Wolf Of Wall Street
12 Years A slave
Dallas Byers Club
Her
American Hustle
Gravity
Captain Phillips
Nebraska
Prisoners
Escape PLan
The Counsellor
Rush
Last Vegas
All Is Lost
Don Jon
Homefront
Blue Jasmine
This Is The End
We're The Millers
Saving Mr Banks
The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty
Now You See Me
Epic
The Croods
Gangster Squad
Runner Runner
Pacific Rim
The Purge
Labour Day
After Earth
The Conjuring
Elysium
The Family
Inside Llewyn Davis
Oblivion
2 Guns
Movie 43
White House Down
The Internship
The Way Way Back
The World's End
The Heat
Olympus Has Fallen
Warm Bodies
Hansel And Gretel: Witch Hunters

And that is just a fraction of the original movies released in 2013.
How many movies do you think were released that were remakes or sequels?


I'm hoping that list isn't supposed to be the best original stuff for 2013...

Her - "let's stretch a 21 minute Big Bang Theory plot over an entire movie"
Last Vegas - "It's the hangover... but with old f**ks!"
Pacific Rim - "Think Godzilla... now add transformers!"
After Earth - "Will Smith's son's twitter gets a lot of followers. We should star him in a movie somehow"
Movie 43 - "All these A list hollywood stars have been asking about making a comedy. Lets make the worst f**king thing possible to take them down a peg"
White House Down - "Channing Tatum and Jamie Fox are starring. So we have to make both their characters the most bad ass f**ks alive as per their standard contracts"
The Internship - "Gen Y are quirky and weird. Add 2 older guys for fish out of water shenanigans"
 

God-King Dean

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I'm glad there some people who can use some sense, instead of the typical "Gen Y are stoopid" "Hollywood aren't as smart as they use to be" "Ah, they don't make movies like they used to" "People younger than 30 are evil" "I haven't had an erection since Basic Instinct"

People look back into the past & just think of all the classic movies. I could go through all the hundreds of shithouse movie from every single decade...... but no one remembers them.
 

Springs

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I'm glad there some people who can use some sense, instead of the typical "Gen Y are stoopid" "Hollywood aren't as smart as they use to be" "Ah, they don't make movies like they used to" "People younger than 30 are evil" "I haven't had an erection since Basic Instinct"

People look back into the past & just think of all the classic movies. I could go through all the hundreds of shithouse movie from every single decade...... but no one remembers them.

I actually think Hollywood used to be less original back in it's 'Golden Days'. The reason films like King Kong and Citizen Kane stand out is because they were massive for their day. Most movies were the same plots/sets/actors over and over.
And it kept going on like that. Who can really name 30 purely original, good films from any one year in the 70s or 80s? To have 30 or so movies that will be worthwhile viewing coming out this year is remarkable, even if half of them are sequels or remakes.
 

KeepingTheFaith

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There's a lot of everything based on something else, including books, TV, music and video games. It doesn't make it any less of an 'original' film since there were no films about them before.

2013 was a fantastic year for movies. Much better than the previous 3 or 4. This year also looks to be pretty good. The Lego Movie, The Grand Budapest Hotel, Noah, Transcendence, Belle, Chef, Wish I Was Here, Guardians of the Galaxy, Lucy, The Giver, If I Stay, Dark Places, The Good Lie, Animal Rescue, Laggies, Gone Girl, The Judge, Interstellar, Fury, Exodus, Paddington, Into the Woods and Unbroken look like worthwhile films that have not been done before.
While there's also 300: Rise of an Empire, Muppets Most Wanted, Captain America 2, Godzilla, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Maleficent, How to Train Your Dragon 2, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Sin City: A Dame to Kill For, Dumb and Dumber To and The Hobbit: There and Back Again that are all sequels or remakes that look to be worthwhile viewing.

Of course there's always going to be the remake, reboot, unnecessary sequel and formulaic action or comedy, but there's always been that in Hollywood. It's not like there was once 100 4 star original movies released every year.

Like music it all comes down to personal opinion. Half those movies you mentioned imo are just pure cash grabs.

And saying a film "looks" worthwhile means little until it's actually released. The film business is a marketing/advertising business first and foremost. They spend millions to make sure everything "looks" worthwhile.

I'll watch anything, and will probably watch most if not all the movies on that list (plus more no doubt). Some will be great, others terrible, some will exceed expectations and others not live up to the hype.

Doesn't change the fact that story wise unless it has a director attached who can call the shots and dictate to the studio, any big budget studio film is going to be based off the same story formula. The only thing that changes is the directors style, special effects, color etc.

I love switching off the brain and watching films, but the ones I truly enjoy are the ones with fresh original stories. These are very rare in big budget films where they want everything based off the formula that makes money.
 

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